Template talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey

Bad Redirect
Umm, no idea why this redirected where it did. Obviously cancelled. -- Resolute 12:48, 12 January 2007

Assessment
We are adding assessment to this project banner. Please replace the current contents with the entire contents of User:Mus Musculus/sandbox. See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ice_Hockey for verification. Unprotection was denied and I was told to use this function. --Mus Musculus 19:23, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. --CBD 19:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Flibirigit 19:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Portal change
I seem to recall a discussion to change the Portal to Ice Hockey? Anyone agree? Flibirigit 19:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Admin - pursuant to this and other discussions ( and ), please edit the template to link to Portal:Ice hockey instead of the Sports and Games portal. Thanks! --Mus Musculus 15:47, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 04:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks again. Flibirigit 05:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Image shift
Everytalk page I go to with this banner, the rink image shifts into the text. Anyway to fix that? No other banner I have come accross has the same problem. Aboutmovies 21:21, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Adding "nested" option
editprotected Please change the very first line from: {| class="messagebox standard-talk" to: {| class=""

This will add the "nesting" option to the banner so it can be used with WikiProjectBannerShell. Please be sure to copy the code from this talk page rather than the wiki code because of the ampersands. Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 03:54, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Yes check.svg|20px]] Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 04:08, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The change was made incorrectly. Please see examples such as Talk:Jon Miller and Talk:Lloyd Pettit.  I believe the problem is that there is a line break before nested-talk given the existence of the nested parameter; you may have copied one of SatyrTN's longer lines as two lines accidentally.


 * Note: I have also requested unprotection for this template. It is not a high-risk template. &mdash; Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 13:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It's almost right now, but the &amp;s need to be changed to &s (so you have  ).  Sorry; that problem was in the code posted by SatyrTN -- he didn't mean for it to be copied from the page source, even though that's the best way to ensure it doesn't get broken.  &mdash; Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 13:40, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Heh. Well, that works too.  Thanks!  &mdash; Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 13:41, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * You may want to look at Talk:Babe Dye for an example of how that looks as compared to other WikiProject banners. I think you'll find you do want to add the space back.  &mdash; Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 13:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * ✅. As of my last change, it seems to tie in with the other banners on that page.  Append "?action=purge" to the URL in your address bar if changes aren't updating.  Thanks, Martinp23 13:45, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! &mdash; Madman bum and angel (talk – desk) 13:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Sorry about that - I added the line returns because I hate scrolling left and right. My bad!!!! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  13:59, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Edit protected
editprotected Can you please look at this: User:Evilclown93/sandbox I've change the image in the box to Image:Pucks.JPG. Can an admin look at it and modify the template accordingly? -- Evilclown93 (talk)  13:58, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you have any interest in moving this image to commons before it is added to the template? --After Midnight 0001 14:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Evilclown93 (talk)  14:47, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * ... and ✅ --After Midnight 0001 15:44, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! :-) -- Evilclown93 (talk)  15:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * We had a discussion in WikiProject Ice Hockey that the picture of an ice hockey rink was more recognizable then pucks or a skate. This image should not have been changed without further discussion. Flibirigit 18:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you provide a link to the discussion? I looked before I made the change and again now and I don't see anything.  Was this recent?  If not, we can just treat this as WP:BRD, remembering that consensus can change. --After Midnight 0001 23:55, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I didn't know about the discusion... Maybe I was simply not part of the project. My reasons for changing it is that I thought the rink was rather vague, and I actually didn't know exactly what is was until I cliked on the image. Sorry for causing a mess... -- Evilclown93 (talk)  00:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I am trying to find the discussion. I believe it happened when coach/player/arena stub tags were being renamed and images changed around. I don't think it was ever resolved. If it matters, we can post it to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey Flibirigit 06:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * It looks like discussion is underway. Please let me know when consensus is reached or affirmed and I will help with any additional edits.  Is everyone OK with leving the current image as is for the short-term while discussion is in progress? --After Midnight 0001 12:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Please leave as is until further discussion. Flibirigit 15:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

New template
Editprotected Replace the current template code with the template code shown here. It was agreed upon by WikiProject Ice Hockey, so there's no controversy over this.  Bsroiaadn Talk 19:14, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * There is some discussion here and on the current project talk page. I'll make the change. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 21:03, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, the last version had a small piece of code missing, could you please update it with the code shown here. The problem was recently brought to my attention and I just fixed it. Sorry about that.  Bsroiaadn Talk 18:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * ✅ Done - Nihiltres ( t .l ) 02:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Editprotected I added a new parameter for a new task force, so this template needs to be updated with what is here so it can be put to use.  Bsroiaadn Talk 18:13, 24 July 2007 (UTC)


 * ✅. – Luna Santin  (talk) 21:03, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Featured List
Should FL be added to the list of available classes here and on the Project's assessment page? I believe it's on a par with FA, but for list articles rather than full-blown articles. --JD554 (talk) 08:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I would say yes to FL = Featured list. I would also suggest FT = Featured topic and perhaps DYK = Did you know if some content was featured. Flibirigit (talk) 19:08, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure about the others, but FL = Featured list is certainly on the Grading scheme template. I've created a Category:FL-Class Ice Hockey articles and was going to edit the Ice hockey template, but this can only be done by an admin. Could someone with admin rights add the necessary lines to the code for FL status? --JD554 (talk) 08:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Error displaying the Show/Hide section
It seems that this edit caused the pull-down function (the Show/Hide link which displays list of related task forces and other notices) to disappear, also hiding its contents. This was also mentioned here on the project talk page (more than a day ago). I'm unsure about the syntax, but it seems there is a pipe sign missing now, according to the diff. Please help. --Bamsefar75 (talk) 23:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * , hopefully. Happy‑melon 14:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It seems to work fine again. --Bamsefar75 (talk) 22:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry I am away so I haven't had much access to the net...missed that small error. -Djsasso (talk) 23:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Needs-photo
I suggest adding a needs-photo parameter and corresponding category to help in the gathering of photos needed. Alaney2k (talk) 14:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * ✅ -Djsasso (talk) 14:26, 28 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Would it be possible to either change the name of the category to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of ice hockey so that the template reqphoto can be used as an alternative but place the request in the same category and/or could the options in= and imagedetails= be added to this template. (See Engineering as example). There are a number of ice hockey requests for images/photos in other categories that could then be added to the subject specific one that has been created here.Traveler100 (talk) 09:00, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I suppose we could. I tend to strip out the reqphoto tag whenever I see it and fill out the parameters in the other project tags on the page because I often think the req photo is just a redundant tag. But thats just personal opinion. I don't really see how the engineering template would be similar. And technically the category name you have above implies the pictures are of ice hockey as opposed to being pictures needed in ice hockey articles. But thats probably me just being fussy. -Djsasso (talk) 14:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Moving from the many photo and image tags to the project template is my basic thinking too. Just do not want to loose some of the information in the requests such as location or exact subject matter. For example the of parameter in reqphoto of Talk:Canada Cup (ice hockey) or in the text of the reqimageother text of articles here Category:Wikipedia requested images-other like for Talk:1963 NHL Amateur Draft logo request.Traveler100 (talk) 21:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok I will take a look tomorrow to see if I can figure out how to code the of/in parameters for use in our template. I am sure no one will object to it being added and if they do it can easily be removed. -Djsasso (talk) 03:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * can I assume of and in will be the syntax, then I can edit a number of articles. Traveler100 (talk) 14:08, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Just realized we never changed the name of the category that this template uses. I have done so now. Hopefully that will fix whatever it was you needed fixing. -DJSasso (talk) 19:28, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * thanks, and good timing as about to create a sub-category Wikipedia requested photographs of ice hockey personnel and move all relevant requests out of the general sportpeople category.--Traveler100 (talk) 20:29, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I am going to update the code on here to accept a bio= param so that the template will automatically put people into the ice hockey people subcat instead of just the main ice hockey cat that I just created. However I am about to leave town for a few days so I don't have time to figure out the coding to do that so I will do it when I get back. -DJSasso (talk) 00:28, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

After much trying to figure it out myself, I managed to get someone to take care of it for us. Its implemented now. -DJSasso (talk) 13:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

New logo
It has been suggested that the Ice Hockey logo be changed to Image:Hockey.svg. I guess a vote is in order? 21:06, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Check that. Image:Hockey.svg is no longer a worthy candidate. Image:WikiProject Ice Hockey logo.svg is being used instead. 11:32, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Minor change
Could the noinclude section at the bottom be changed from:

Usage
to {{documentation|1=Wikipedia:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Project banner|content=

Usage
}}

Thanks, -- 86.159.43.237 (talk) 19:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Could you perhaps explain why you want this change? -Djsasso (talk) 20:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Capitalization
Why is "Ice Hockey" capitalized in "the coverage of Ice Hockey on Wikipedia"? This should be lowercase because ice hockey isn't a proper noun. Sorry for the obsessiveness, I couldn't resist. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 01:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. — RockMFR 02:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Norway Ice Hockey task force
Hi, could anyone with permission to edit this template add the necessary codes, so that the articles I have assessed to "Norway Ice Hockey task force" will show up in this category? I have mostly copied pages from the Swedish task force, so I guess those codes can be used in this template as well, just replace all instances of "Sweden" with "Norway"... =)

I also copy-pasted this bot user page from the Swedish one, which I afterwards realized are being updated by the bot itself! Do I need to have it deleted, or will it start overwriting the information once this template includes the new parameters?

If there is anything more I have to do, don't hesitate contacting me! =)

Thanks, in advance... lil2mas (talk) 01:39, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * You might want to ask on WP:HOCKEY if they want to actually make another task force. Usually we don't create a task force unless we have 5 users that are actively going to edit in it. We do this becaue we often have single editors all gung ho about creating one and it almost instantly becomes inactive. All you have to do is look at some of our other ones for examples of this. -DJSasso (talk) 22:56, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh I see you have already created the pages etc for it. I would see if you can get other editors to join your task force before I make a change to the code here. -DJSasso (talk)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved.  Ron h jones (Talk) 00:30, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:Ice hockey → Template:WikiProject Ice hockey — To standardize. – xeno talk 12:55, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I would actually prefer that we don't move it. I find that when you add in WikiProject to these tags it makes them unwieldy and less people then actually seem to put the tag on articles. An example of this would be the Wikiproject Biography tag. I would think if the tag were just Biography it would get used alot more. That being said if people think its better I am flexible as long as the shortcut remains to use the old tag. -DJSasso (talk) 12:58, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The reason is so that bots can recognize which templates on the page are banners and which are not. "Ice hockey" provides no clue whatsoever, not even a "WP" or "project" thrown in there for good measure. And yes, ice hockey would no doubt remain as redirect to still be used by those familiar with it. – xeno talk 13:01, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Would bots not be able to tell its a project template by being in Category:WikiProject banners with quality assessment? -DJSasso (talk) 13:07, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I suppose if it was a clever bot, with a cleverer operator. That's not always the case. Having to load that list is also a drain on resources. The vast majority of banners take the standard form so consistency is also a factor to consider. – xeno talk 14:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've no issue with such a move, but I am curious as to the impetus. Why is it important that bots be able to recognize which templates are banners? Resolute 14:20, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There are a number of reasons: some bots may be adding banner shells; other bots may be making sure that all project banners are together; and important banners (such as WPBiography with living=yes, talkheader, skiptotoc) are at the top. – xeno talk 14:22, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Interesting. Have bots not been applying banner shells for some time already?  I've yet to see an issue with folding this template into such a shell.  That said, it makes no practical difference and if it makes your bot's job easier, I'd say go for it. Resolute 15:25, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * For my bot, it is really only an issue if there is no "class=" in the template (such as with many of these) as it is designed to look for that. Not sure about other bots. I still think for consistency, WikiProject Ice hockey is desirable. Of course, I have a workaround (I add the class=) but to do this on a template-by-template basis is a bit of a pain. – xeno talk 16:43, 26 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Support per Xeno - to be consistent with other WikiProject banners.   A rbitrarily 0    ( talk ) 19:21, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment- having tried to co-ordinate a cross-project task, of generating lists of unreferenced BLPs, and being told by the Bot coder that I needed to use the actual template name, not a redirect, the WikiProject template naming system is a mess. Look at the range of names that are in use. The sooner we get all the projects aligned, the sooner maintenance tasks can be setup automatically, and not with a lot of effort.The-Pope (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. So if we move the template, would leaving the redirect behind break the bot task to identify these unsourced BLPs?  If so, we may have to have a bot update the banner to the new name as a part of a name change. Resolute 20:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Most bots follow redirects so it shouldn't be a problem I would think. -DJSasso (talk) 22:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Edit request
Edit request

No reason to include the "importance" attribute in the pre code, as it is not working in this template. / Hey Mid  (contributions) 22:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh you mean in the documentation, yeah that doesn't need to be there. In fact you could have edited that. -DJSasso (talk) 22:39, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry! I didn't notice it was in the documentation, but of course I could've edit the documentation page myself. / Hey Mid  (contributions) 23:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I say we screw with the system by labeling all hockey articles as being "very" important! :) Resolute 23:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Request for photographs and images
To help address the many requests for photographs People-photo-bot has moved article talk pages from Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of people and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of sportspeople to Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of ice hockey personnel if it contains the templates ice hockey, WikiProject Ice Hockey. Members of this project are invited to address the requests for images listed. Please note that some articles may now have an appropriate photograph and that the need-photo flag has simply not been removed, this can also be checked using the Image Existence Checker link on the category page. If a page has been incorrectly moved please inform me on my talk page.--Traveler100 (talk) 19:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

The importance attribute
Should we create the corresponding categories for the importance levels? Or shall we wait until feedback regarding this new test has come? Hey Mid  (contributions) 22:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No, do not create the categories. The wikiproject is split on if we will go forward with this. I was only adding it so that some things could be tested. No point in creating categories which might end up getting deleted again. -DJSasso (talk) 22:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from MisterSanderson, 22 November 2010
Please change Icon tools.png to Icon tools.svg in Template:WikiProject Ice Hockey, because the svg version is better, and its avaible. MisterSanderson (talk) 19:33, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Doesn't really make a difference, but I have updated it for you. -DJSasso (talk) 19:45, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Anaheim Ducks
Can someone please add the new Anaheim Ducks Taskforce to the template? Thank You. :) --CASportsFan (talk) 07:08, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Here is the image I created for the template: [[File:ANA_Bamsefar75.png]]
 * Have you checked with the ice hockey project first to make sure you have enough active editors interested in creating a new task force? Generally we don't add a new one until we see that there are a number of active people interested in it and actively working on articles in that task forces scope, in general 5 people is usually mentioned. Most of our task forces get created and then fall inactive fast so we haven't been adding new task forces lately, most discussion takes place on the ice hockey project directly, instead of breaking off into task forces. -DJSasso (talk) 14:34, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I wanted to get everything started, then I would go out and find people! I didn't realize that they like to do it the other way around . . . --CASportsFan (talk) 09:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * It's just a case of this happening a number of times, and nothing ever coming of it. The hockey project just tends to do everyone on the main project page instead of fracturing off. :) I fully support the idea if you can find some people. -DJSasso (talk) 11:43, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Got 3 (including myself), got to get at least 2 more! Haha :) --CASportsFan (talk) 07:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Photo image needs to be replaced
File:Camera bw.png, a file uploaded at Commons, has as a copyright violation; this means that the image shown in the "needs-photo" parameter is a red link with the number of pixels. In other words, this means that the image needs to be replaced by another. I think that File:Camera-photo.svg would work well as a replacement. Any thoughts? Hey Mid  (contribs) 20:21, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for the notice. Resolute 22:22, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Change photo requests to image requests
As part of a nearly-completed shift to distinguish requests for photos from requests for images in general, it is requested that this template be modified to place talk pages in "Wikipedia requested images of..." categories, rather than the old "Wikipedia requested photographs of..." categories. As such, please supplement all references to "photo(s) of..." and "photograph(s) of..." with "image(s) of..." in both the template and its documentation, while maintaining backwards compatibility for the old "photo" parameters. In particular, change "photograph or picture" to simply "image". Note that the "Wikipedia requested images of..." categories have already been created. Thank you! — s w p b T 15:30, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I am tempted to leave it as is. There are very few cases on hockey articles where an image would not be a photo. -DJSasso (talk) 19:32, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * For this category, that may be true, but the "image-requested" parameter should still be supported, which it's currently not. — s w p b T 14:49, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Mock-up in sandbox. — s w p b T 14:41, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Mock-up doesn't take into account we are looking for photos and would be placing all the requests in the wrong place. -DJSasso (talk) 14:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've changed the mock-up so that photo requests go to the photo category. — s w p b T 14:52, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That is much better. I would suggest that for all of them. For the future ability to choose either. -DJSasso (talk) 15:01, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * That's not a terrible idea, and I won't get in the way of you changing other mock-ups (and non-protected templates) accordingly, but I probably won't be doing much of that work myself. I've put a tremendous effort into this transition already, and real-world responsibilities are calling. Anyway, if it's not done now, it can always be done later. I think in most cases (like, say, comics), it's not particularly pressing; certainly not as pressing as the primary effect of the edit requests. — s w p b T 16:29, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

"Template:Blue Jackets" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Blue Jackets. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Magioladitis (talk) 19:36, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

TF Women's ice hockey
Shouldn't the project banner have a switch for Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's sport/Ice hockey task force ?

for instance.

-- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 04:30, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Edit request: add switch for TF women's hockey
Please add a switch to enable the task force for women's hockey on this project banner.

Please add

|tf 9={{{women|{{{Women|{{{♀|}}}}}}}} |TF_9_LINK           = Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's sport/Ice hockey task force |TF_9_NAME           = Women task force |TF_9_IMAGE          = Female symbol.jpg |TF_9_QUALITY        = yes |TF_9_ASSESSMENT_CAT = Women's ice hockey articles |TF_9_MAIN_CAT       = Women's ice hockey task force articles

underneath the  section

-- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 01:53, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ❌ Each task force has only one parent project. WikiProject Women's sport/Ice hockey task force is a task force of WikiProject Women's sport, not WikiProject Ice Hockey, and therefore any articles within its scope should be added via Template:WikiProject Women's sport, not Template:WikiProject Ice Hockey * Pppery * it has begun... 02:13, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Many task forces are tagged onto multiple Wikiproject banners, such as the US Film task force, or the US Military task force, the Russian military task force, the Japanese film task force. I don't see how this one is any different. This task force already carries WPIceHockey on its own talk page, signifying it as part of ice hockey. -- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 16:08, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * That still seems fundamentally illogical to me, but I'll let another template editor handle this. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:28, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * An article you are going to add this to presumably has the WikiProject Women's sport already tagged? In that case, why not tag the task force using that banner? Tagging with both seems redundant. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:42, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * not done. Until editor IP64+ can show where and why such redundancy is useful, then the Women's sport WP banner will suffice.  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 23:07, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Checked into this more deeply and found a lot of this kind of multiple usage of task forces/work groups on related project banners, so reconsidered and have added the women's ice hockey task force to this project's talk page banner.  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 00:00, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

Category revert
the reason I didn't use that category name is because there is no. You gonna create it?  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 17:43, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The parent category is . Using the   parameter sorts all of the bannered talkpages correctly within that cat's subcats. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:06, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't understand. You seem to be saying that using a non-existing category in the TF_9_ASSESSMENT_CAT parameter is the right thing to do? It sounds as if you're using a workaround for something that needs to be fixed.  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 21:12, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It's no workaround; the TF_9_ASSESSMENT_CAT parameter only drives the naming of the base level assessment categories, such as ; the TF_9_MAIN_CAT parameter is what drives the naming of the top level category. The WP Banner meta template was coded intentionally to use two different parameters, so WikiProjects need not slavishly follow the same naming conventions for each. (and in fact the titles of nearly all top-level project categories reference the WikiProject (such as, not ) or task force (such as the current case)). UnitedStatesian (talk) 21:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * "no workaround", hmm. Sorry, I must be really dense, because nothing you have said so far has made me understand why any WikiProject should have a parameter with an argument that is a red-linked, unavailable and non-existing page. Still makes no sense to me.  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;- ed.  put'r there 01:50, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * The TF_9_ASSESSMENT_CAT parameter isn't a category name. It's used by the subtemplates of - ultimately  - to construct categories named like ,   etc., where assessment-cat is the value passed in through TF_9_ASSESSMENT_CAT. So if we have Ice Hockey articles we would get  ,   etc. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 09:36, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks stated more clearly than I could.  UnitedStatesian (talk) 13:58, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Agreed! Thank you   for these explanations that together give me a crystal clear understanding of this.  P.I. Ellsworth &numsp;-  ed.  put'r there 12:25, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Edit request: testcases subpage
Page creation is a protected function, so someone with access will need to do this.

Please create the page Template:WikiProject Ice Hockey/testcases with the content:

-- 64.229.90.53 (talk) 01:59, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I've created the page using the default boilerplate for a /testcases page, which is different than the proposed content. If you want to edit if further, then feel free. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:11, 31 October 2021 (UTC)