Template talk:WikiProject Military history

Category:Military history articles needing attention to tagging
Does anyone know how articles wind up in Category:Military history articles needing attention to tagging? I've looked at a couple and cannot see anything wrong with them. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  03:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The articles get put into this category if the WikiProject Military history call includes the  parameter and either:
 * There hasn't actually been an A-class review started (i.e.  doesn't exist).
 * The value of the A-Class parameter isn't one of  (most commonly  )
 * There were two pages which did have an A-class assessment subpage, but the category hadn't refreshed. Per step 7 of the instructions at WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment/A-Class_review, a null edit cleared the category from these two pages.  Harryboyles  08:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I've just added some explanation to Category:Military history articles needing attention to tagging  Harryboyles  08:12, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I think they all have A-Class assessment subpages. What has happened is that the article was renamed after the A-Class review. This is noted in the ArticleHistory. Do we need to create redirects to remove the articles from the category? Or can it be made smarter? Is it possible to inform the the template?  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  21:42, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect is probably the simplest fix - just created a redirect: WikiProject Military history/Assessment/57th Rifle Division -> WikiProject Military history/Assessment/57th Rifle Division (Soviet Union). Doing a null edit on Talk:57th_Rifle_Division afterwards cleared the category.  Harryboyles  06:37, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:Military history lists incorrectly assessed as articles
These articles are listed as being incorrectly assessed as articles instead of lists, but class=list. Looks like a problem with the template. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  23:25, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * According to the template documentation,  is required to be added as a parameter in order to apply the list-based assessment criteria.  Harryboyles  08:27, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject banner shell
What progress are we making on getting Template:WikiProject Military history to get it to inherit from Template:WikiProject banner shell? Seems to be a lot of unecessary bot work going on just dealing with this. Hawkeye7  (discuss)  20:15, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Anomalous rating
Looking at Talk:Ironclad warship, the WikiProject Banner Shell is set to C class, but this is not being inherited by the WikiProject Military history banner, which for some bizarre reason is showing the article as Start class, although there is no class parameter. This causes weird effects, with the article being categorised as both C and Start class. Any idea where the start comes from? And how we can get the banner to inherit correctly? Hawkeye7  (discuss)  22:23, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * From the template page: WikiProject Military history has opted out of project-independent quality assessments and is using a custom class mask. With the article being recently demoted from A-class, the automatic class rating from the class mask applies. There's no B-Class assessment checklist done (B-Class-1 through B-Class-5 parameters), so the default case of Start-class applies. WikiProject Military history/Assessment lists the criteria required for C-class (The article meets B1 or B2 as well as B3 and B4 and B5 of the B-Class criteria.) and B-class (The article meets all of the B-Class criteria.)  Harryboyles  23:03, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * If there is no B-Class assessment checklist done, then the article should be in Category:Military history articles with missing B-Class checklists. The bot will then assess it. I don't know why it is not. The default is for unassessed articles is to be placed in Category:Unassessed military history articles. WikiProject Military history has not opted out of quality assessments. I will see if we can get that message corrected.  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  23:57, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Harryboyles didn't say that milhist had opted out of quality assessments; they said WikiProject Military history has opted out of project-independent quality assessments, please note the qualifier "project-independent" here. Quality assessments still occur, but need to be set on the milhist banner as well as on the banner shell. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 05:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The project should inherit the rating from the banner shell where it is set. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  07:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * When QUALITY_CRITERIA=='custom' and there is no class set, the module is supposed to "replace class with inherited class". Hawkeye7   (discuss)  07:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Hawkeye7  (discuss)  07:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Military history articles must never default to start class. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  07:29, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

A-class reviews
The A-class review note currently accepts the following values: I am wondering if we could change the "keep/kept" to "pass" and "demote/demoted" and "fail", in order to simplify this slightly? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
 * pass, keep, kept
 * fail, demote, demoted
 * current


 * Will make a bot request in a day or two &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Unassessed military history articles
Category:Unassessed military history articles is full of Category talk, Template talk and File talk pages. These cannot be assessed. Would it be possible for them not to be placed in this maintenance category? Hawkeye7  (discuss)  05:39, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If you visit one of the miscategorised pages and perform a WP:NULLEDIT, then return to and reload it, the page that you nulledited disappears; visiting e.g.  shows that the page has moved to the correct category. This tells me that the template code is presently working as intended.
 * What you are seeing is probably fallout from Village pump (technical). If you wait, they should all be fixed as the pages pass through the job queue, but it won't be straightaway as there are several hundred to fix. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 17:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That cleared up that category, but I still have a problem with Category:Military history articles with no associated task force being cluttered with File and Draft space articles. Any chance of being able to remove them? Hawkeye7   (discuss)  23:24, 14 July 2024 (UTC)