Template talk:Wikinews

Suggested change
For example it could say: "To view news related to this article from our sister project, WikiNews, please see: [insert name of topic here]"
 * Could we change this so it could be tagged to a wider variety of topics.

I think this would put the template to much better use.


 * For usage of the template, please see Sister projects. --Leopard 18:41, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

instead of -- 82.159.136.235
 * A great number of pages that uses the old template version, could use directly the new version . See Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Wikinews . I.e. Canada could use
 * I agree. And there are a lot of other examples that wrongly uses instead of simply  --WikiRider 5 July 2005 06:08 (UTC)
 * is the correct way to use this. Stop trying to confuse things and stop trying to change the way this is implemented. -- Netoholic @ 5 July 2005 08:01 (UTC)

re:Colored, non-standardized version of Template:Wikinews
Quit the revert war without discussion. I'll ask that this template be protected if the revert war doesn't stop.

As my subject line suggests, I don't like the colored version, and am reverting it. If you want to explain why the colored version is better, do that on the talk page and try to reach a consensus between editors. Blank Verse  &empty;  22:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I propose this design:

It's not mine, someone created it on Live 8, but I like it. It's more colouful and eye-catching. Seeing as it's designed to drive traffic to Wikinews, eye-catching is good. Dan100 (Talk) 22:36, July 13, 2005 (UTC)


 * I do not like having a Sister Project template that is formatted differently from the other Sister Project templates. With that said, it might be an idea to create a new template (template:CurrentNews?) that could be placed on a Wikipedia article any time there is some current event reported at WikiNews that related to the article. If such a template was created, I would suggest that it only be placed on a Wikipedia article for a limited period of time (four to five days?). Blank Verse   &empty;  05:36, 14 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I do not support creation of an extra template. Use Current and Wikinews in pairing and leave it be. -- Netoholic @ 06:10, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Good idea, Blankverse, thank you. Dan100 (Talk) 06:35, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * BTW though, re looking different to other sister project templates - is Wikimedia a beauty contest, or a series of projects aiming to provide people with information? I wonder sometimes... Dan100 (Talk) 06:36, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
 * re:Beauty contest: Among other things, usability involves good design. Having a consistent, easily recognizable, easily usable set of similar templates for the different Sister Projects helps facilitate their usefulness. Imagine if each one of the eight Sister Projects had a template that was a different shape, and different color, and used different positioning for the graphics, and used very different wording for each template. Compare that to the current set of Sister Templates. I don't wonder at all.... Blank Verse   &empty;  08:24, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

usability involves good design - oh absolutely. However I just don't think you right in this particular instance. If each project had a different-looking template I don't think that would harm their usability at all. From my point of view, the project templates are intended to drive traffic to the various other Wikimedia projects - and having different individual templates would help that. Dan100 (Talk) 14:34, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

New template suggestion
This template is currently used in a number of places to link to specific Wikinews articles rather than categories or general articles. The wording of the current template is not really conducive to this, as it implies that the Wikinews article is "related" to the Wikipedia article rather than about a specific point in the Wikipedia article, and, most importantly, does not name the date of the Wikinews story which I think is rather essential when linking to old articles.

I propose to create a new template, something like "Wikinews article", which takes two parameters, the article title and the article date, and to help migrate template usage in this area. Are there any objections? --Fastfission 23:01, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't really think its necessary, but if you feel like it I've got no objections. Bawolff 21:44, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that it is unnecessary, too. This template should include the date.  Indeed, for convenience and consistency this template should take the same parameters, with the same names, as n:Template:Wikinews on Wikinews does. Uncle G 22:53, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

strange behavior in lists
If put in an un-ordered list it acts strangly. *

Bawolff 04:13, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Table-based templates such as don't work in bulleted lists and generate a Multiline table in list lint error. Do not use this template in a bulleted list. —Anomalocaris (talk) 11:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Proposing yet another version of this template
Hi,

When trying to use this template, I noted that the search function of WikiNews is totally out of date. As such, this template is completely useless: e.g. if I wanted to insert into article Pluto, the link would return nothing (or old articles with the word Pluto). Instead, is used much more, because of course that DOES work, but if future news is published on Pluto, articles had to be listed again and again in the template on article Pluto.

I propose a radical solution: we use Google instead of our own search function. It's up to date and this is the most important thing for news. This can be undone if our searchtool is up to date again.

I'm proposing Template:WNGoogle. I don't have the skills to make it work both for keywords and specific titles, I suggest it to be used only for keywords.

Please comment. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 14:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm, when was the last time this was actually used for searching? I personnally think that this template should only be used for actual articles. (Search is okay as a last measure if this gets left behind and the article deleted, but I don't think it should be planned on using). Bawolff 19:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, that last sentence might not have made sense. To clarify: I don't think this template should be used unless its linking to an actual Wikinews article. Search is okay, in case the article name is misspelled or something, but I don't think it should be used unless linking to a specific article. Bawolff 04:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Then why does it say: "Wikinews has news related to"? That should change then, to something like "Wikinews has a news article related to : TITLE OF ARTICLE". Even then, for some subjects that are often discussed or have many news articles, it might be more interesting to use the search function (e.g. JonBenet Ramsey). Also, in the long run WN might develop multiple articles on uncommon topics, another argument in favour of a "Search"-type template (on top of it's obvious advantages in articles on common topics like George Bush, politics,...).
 * I think there are two options:
 * Two separate templates: a frequently used one linking to a specific article, and a less frequently used one like WNGoogle.
 * But even better (IMO), something along the lines of "Wikinews has news related to : ARTICLE TITLE" (if you get what I'm trying to say here). This would combine both functions (searching and referring to a specific recent article) in the current template.
 * Bawolff, do you think this template should not often be used in general? Because I can imagine that it could be added to tons of articles on wikipedia if it doesn't refer to a specific current event, and that you would be uncomfortable with that idea?
 * --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I personally don't like the search thing. I geuss if we have over 4 articles its okay, but otherwise I think we should just list them. Also template:wikinewscat/template:wikinewsportal would be idea in my opinion on articles with lots of one subject. Also to make your life easier in designing these things, are you aware of the prefix. normal link foo, much easier to type. Bawolff 10:57, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't know if this was discussed, but two word names don't work. --  Zanimum 19:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I've tried to use WNGoogle on an article, and realised that it was just not a good idea: Google lists talk pages, user pages, and isn't up-to-date by the minute either. So I've proposed WNGoogle for deletion. What I will do is change Template:Wikinews to use the magic word, because now the intro just doesn't make sense.

However, the problems remain: it would be nice to have a link to all on some key topics, like Mahmoud Amhedinajad, Iran, Bush, obesity, ... WNGoogle wasn't the right solution, I think there needs to be a solution on the WikiNews side. Maybe we could create more specific categories? Or use more infoboxes.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:30, 9 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Mmm,... I'm stuck. Article Iran says: "Wikinews has news related to Iran", and that's good. However, Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad says "Wikinews has news related to: Hardliner wins Iran presidential runoff". That's not right, I think. That needs fixing by a template wizz, I guess.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 11:39, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

SVG Image
I think the image should be changed to SVG. Cristan 12:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, so I've added editprotected. The picture that I think the template should switch to is Image:WikiNews-Logo.svg. Picaroon 20:16, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Done. --Ligulem 23:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Spacing
editprotected

Please make a minor change to this template to allow for more flexible spacing. The lines:

should be combined to form:

This will remove the automatically added line break, fixing spacing issues on pages such as Emergency contraception. —Remember the dot (talk) 04:15, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * done. CMummert · talk 04:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks! —Remember the dot (talk) 17:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Logo
editprotected Please use Image:Wikinews-logo.svg instead of Image:WikiNews-Logo.svg. – rotemliss – Talk 17:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * done. CMummert · talk 01:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Wording
The current template says Wikinews has news related to:
 * Headline_of_the_news

That's a weird wording. What's on the headline is the news, not related to the news. Rather, shouldn't it be as follows? Wikinews has news related to Article_name_in_pedia at:
 * Headline_of_the_news

--朝彦 (Asahiko) 08:27, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I had exactly the same thought and indeed fixed it before coming here and seeing your comment! Dan100 (Talk) 10:44, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I wasn't able to pull my self to actual editing since I'm not a native english speaker. Your "Wikinews has related news" is better than what I was trying to do. Thanks for fixing! Cheers. --朝彦 (Asahiko) 11:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Clickable image
Please make it so when the Wikinews logo is clicked, instead of going to the image description page, it goes to the corresponding Wikinews page.-- penubag  (talk) 07:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Yes check.svg|20px]] Done — { { Nihiltres | talk | log } } 23:30, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Formating problems
The article MV Sirius Star has formating problems that disappear when this template is removed. If you remove from the article, the text in the highjacking section doesn't have a big gap. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks. Ann arbor street (talk) 06:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem was fixed by removing the template from the article, but it would be interesting to figure out what is causing the problem. The  template did not cause the problem (as verified via preview experiments).  Ann arbor street (talk) 16:26, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, the article is moving face. For purposes of fixing the template, the version of the article that had the problem is here.  Ann arbor street (talk) 18:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Outdated news
`'Míkka>t 17:04, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Suggestion: add the date parameter and write a 'bot which purges the news older than, say 6 months.
 * Rationales:
 * After half a year the news are no longer news. With time some articles became littered with real old news.
 * Basing on general "wikipedia is not" (not a linkfarm, not a collection of indiscriminate info, etc.), WP:UNDUE, and Verifiablity rules, if there was any notable info in the news, it must be added into the article, with direct references to firsthand reliable sources. As you know, since wikinews is a wiki, it fails WP:RS.
 * I suspect that in some cases the "wikinews" link became a vehicle of promotion of a certain person, by inserting the "wikinews" link in all marginally related wikipedia articles.
 * I oppose this idea (keep in mind I'm primarily a wikinewsie, so i'm biased) as: News may be mostly related to whats current, but its also interesting to read past news. For an article on 2008-2009 financial recession, I think links to articles that appeared at the time are useful to the reader. However I'll give you a point on marginally related articles. For most marginally related articles (for example, say big articles, like Canada), the template is automatically updated by the user:Wikinews Importer Bot. As with all templates and things, if its not actually related it shouldn't be on the article (If I link a wikinews article on the economy from Disney, unless the wn article is specificly about disney, it shouldn't be linked from there). However, I would consider automatic removal of wikinews templates to be a bad idea. Even though I am primarily a wikinewsie, I have in the past come across wikipedia articles with links to wikinews articles I've never read before, and found those links to be very helpful. Bawolff (talk) 03:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Problem when embedded in a bullet list
This template was used in this version of the Willamette Week article between two items in a bullet list, and (this is key) without a line break between the template and the end of the first bullet item. That use produced an unintended result, i.e. the box around the item was missing and the text within the box was not floated along the right side. After some experimentation it was easy to work around this problem, but it would be better if either the template were fixed to not exhibit this layout behavior (sorry, I can't be more specific) or if this limitation could be documented at Template:Sister/doc. This issue may be years old, since its similar to the one mentioned here on this talk page in 2006 in the following example:

The following text

produces this output:

*

Thanks in advance. 68.167.254.158 (talk) 02:44, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think you are right in saying that the sister template needs to be modified to correct this. There is nothing which can be done to this template to fix the issue. I suggest opening a discussion at Template talk:Sister or WT:Wikimedia sister projects and describing the problem. Hopefully someone there will have an idea of how best to fix it. Martinmsgj 08:51, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Should not be used in a bulleted list, so a wontfix I would say. Rich Farmbrough, 20:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC).

but see {[Tl|Wikinews-inline}} which is deliberately boxless.




 * Rich Farmbrough, 04:38, 5 November 2009 (UTC).


 * Table-based templates such as don't work in bulleted lists and generate a Multiline table in list lint error. Do not use this template in a bulleted list. —Anomalocaris (talk) 11:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Table in /doc
The table that shows if you view the doc file separately is not showing up properly when transcluded. I don't know how to fix this though. Calebrw (talk) 23:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Why is this template being used at all
I don't understand why this template is being used in Wikipedia. The rules for wikinews differs from Wikipedia. The only reference I could find to its use, points to WP:SPS suggesting that it is sometimes "self-published" material and not necessarily verifiable. Why would we want to promote another wiki site? Hopefully, not because it has "wiki-" in front of it! :) Student7 (talk) 21:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * "I don't understand why this template is being used in Wikipedia."
 * Because Wikinews, like Wikpedia, is part of the overall Wikimedia family. You need to read and understand Wikimedia sister projects before continuing on this thread.
 * "The rules for wikinews differs from Wikipedia."
 * No and yes. Wikinews operates under many of the familar Wikipedia rules: NPOV, verifiability/sources, even 3RR. On the other hand, Wikinews differs from Wikipedia in a good way in that it has implemented the sighted review mechanism where articles must be subjected to independent review before they can be published. Before discussing the merits of Wikinews any further, it would be prudent to review at least the core Wikinews policies.
 * "The only reference I could find to its use, points to WP:SPS suggesting that it is sometimes "self-published" material and not necessarily verifiable."
 * The usage is supported by Wikimedia sister projects which you should read again. Links to other projects in the Wikimedia family are encouraged, including this template, which is a logical and practical extension of WP:LINK. Wikinews is in no way self-published due to its policies, review mechanisms, the nature of Wikimedia's ownership and the varied editors involved. Above all, the Wikinews template is not used for a source, it is an interwiki link, and perhaps the template doc could include a statement to make that distinction more obvious.
 * "Why would we want to promote another wiki site?"
 * Because it's not just "another wiki site", it's on the same team.
 * "Hopefully, not because it has "wiki-" in front of it! :)"
 * In case all the above wasn't clear, we're not talking about promoting someone's private and unrelated wiki/blog/POV-dispenser here. Dl2000 (talk) 01:09, 26 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you. This answers all my original questions.


 * My "follow-on" is this: How to restrict the use of this to sanity. Once per article (like Wikicommons) isn't so bad. Nor do I object to a lot of Wiktionary references (though I might question why so many obscure words were being used). But how can this be limited in the case of an "in the news" article like (I haven't looked!) Obama, for example. Having an article plastered with these things seems a bit counterproductive and distracting IMO. And no, since this is the first instance I have ever encountered, I'm not accusing anyone of violating common sense. But give some people an inch.... :) Student7 (talk) 21:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)


 * If the subject has more than one article, Wikinewshas would be used to consolidate these into one box. After numerous articles, a Wikinews category should be requested and created so that Wikinewscat can then be used. If there are multiple active Wikimedia links Sisterlinks is available e.g. as used in Barack Obama. Dl2000 (talk) 04:14, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Left align?
Is there a way to make this template appear on the left side of an article, instead of the right? Cirt (talk) 14:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Not currently. I would recomend modifying the template as follows:

Which would make the position parameter determine which side of the article the template falls on. Bawolff (talk) 19:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅, thanks. Cirt (talk) 20:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Where is the value added by WN links?
I'd like to discuss what value linking to Wikinews adds to Wikipedia articles – Is it just for the sake of driving traffic to a sister site as seems to be implied in the thread above, or is there any other reason? It seems that WN recycles news from the same sources we use here. The coverage of our articles, where there are similar WN topics, is more often than not wider and deeper than anything they can hope to achieve. So it's not as if they have access to better sources, or that their articles are better researched or better written. It really begs the question what value these WN links add... -- Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:12, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Good question. Actually, I think there's a basic issue WP needs to be wary of linking to WN pages. WN has almost no primary news-gathering capability (which is extremely expensive, of course). the entire effort is founded on re-writing Reuters and (mainly) Associated Press news articles that appear in subscribing publications lsuch as MSNBC and CNN. In the effort to use original wording and steer around accusations of plagiarism, errors are inevitable. This is because professional copywriters pay attention to language and boolean nuances to make perfectly factual statements when not all of the facts are available (this is not always the case, but is typical in professional journalism—one learns to deal with it as a primary journalist). Given this model, it's all too easy to think something is being implied when it is not.


 * I wonder why WP isn't externally linking to the original news sources, rather than rehashed versions from WN that are likely to present dangers in their tinkering with the wording. Tony   (talk)  09:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree. It doesn't feel right to reference distilled and summarized sources (as is the case by using WN articles). We should be striving to skip the middle-man and use the same underlying sources as WN. WN represents one more (external) layer that is beyond the control of the average WP editor (i.e. a reference to a WN article could obtain a different meaning if the content of the WN article is: subsequently altered, being reworked, or vandalized). The content of reliable media sources is far less likely to change after publication, so we should strive to go direct to the established source. Finally, WN is less stringent on allowing OR and it is a pity to weaken the authority of WP articles (when a little more work in passing through the original references means that we don't have to). I would certainly support an RfC that discussed the removal of the WN template throughout WP. HWV258 . 04:54, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * One reason why we should not limit ourselves to, or rely on, the same sources as WN is that news evolves in light of new information. News articles often become stale or unreliable for that reason. Another reason is linkrot. We already have the problem, but with such a small editing team, WN cannot hope to keep updating its reference links to avoid this problem. -- Ohconfucius ¡digame! 05:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Of course, I don't suggest limiting ourselves to only the same sources as WN; however we could use the same sources that WN did as a starting point in the construction of our own articles. My main point is that I believe referencing WN to be akin to taking the easy way out (as opposed to doing the reference work from scratch). HWV258 . 05:20, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikinewslang
We need a version of this template that can link to wikinews in different languages, like Wikiquotelang and such. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk 18:39, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I saw "new slang". Is there a reason for doing this? Tony   (talk)  09:51, 5 July 2011 (UTC)


 * It's bad enough having these WN templates on articles, due to the fact that our coverage is vastly superior to that of WN. Bearing in mind the questionable utility of the said links, and the fact that English language readers are unlikely to want to read foreign language news articles, I'd say it would be a waste of effort. -- Ohconfucius ¡digame! 09:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit
Because Template:Wikinews/doc contains Wikinews interwikies and it is used in several similar templates, it screws other interwikies such as Template:Wikinewspar2. Like par2 template, we should move interwikies from doc to template article. --kwan-in (talk) 17:25, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Added a parser function that will do the same job. — G FOLEY   F OUR!  — 23:13, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Multiple articles should have a bulleted list
Where multiple Wikinews articles are linked to, the list of articles should be a bulleted one. For example at Jennifer Hudson it is difficult to tell at a glance how many articles are linked, nor where the break between headlines is. Note: This comment relates to template:Wikinewspar2 but this talkpage appears to be more watched. Thryduulf (talk) 12:23, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Bad functionality
The functionality that lets one link to a Wikinews search page is very bad form. It encourages inclusion of links where nothing relevant exists at Wikinews, and, due to relatively short search strings, is likely to give highly irrelevant results. The functionality should be removed, or at least given a category that notes an almost-certainly-bad use of the template, so it can be reviewed and removed or replaced with a direct link. Linking to search pages is an explicit violation of WP:EL Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:15, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
 * ❌. I'm not sure what you're asking to get done here. Which template mode enables linking to search pages? Please fix the template in a /sandbox page and then renable the request. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 02:06, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Wikinews/sandbox is the simplest change. Basically, the original template links to a search on Wikinews for the page name if parameter 1 isn't specified. This edit adds a category to pages using this, so we can evaluate if there is a problem, and offers the ability to suppress the category by adding.

Once it's possible to check the usages, we can make changes as necessary. There may be some cases where a dumb search works, but there's no way to know until we can actually see pages that use the functionality. Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:22, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done. I fixed an #if statement that wasn't closed, and created the hidden category Category:Wikipedia pages with potentially bad Wikinews search links. Also, please remember to update the documentation, and to add any relevant subcategories that you can find to the category that I created. Thanks — Mr. Stradivarius  ♪ talk ♪ 04:49, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be a little slow about this: I was at Wikimania at the time. I'll review now. Adam Cuerden (talk) 15:21, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Remove undocumented search function
The secret, undocumented search option gives really terrible results. I just reviewed all usage of this secret fuctionality (there were only 5 in article space), and couldn't find one that was remotely useful - it's just a base search, so, for example, Occupy wall street gave results that contain - in separate places in the article - the words "occupies" "walls" and "street". It's not useful, so I propose the template code be changed to the following, which gives a standard-format warning if used without a parameter. This should not affect any valid usage, and has been tested:

Edit page, then copy-paste


 * So sorry, I don't know enough to be able to tell if your edit improves this template. However, I do know that interwikis must now go to Wikidata and have amended the above comment accordingly.  Joys! –  Paine Ellsworth  C LIMAX ! 02:33, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You should use  instead of the   tag. μc8 (talk) 06:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Per WP:TESTCASES, please put your proposed version into the template's sandbox - easier to compare with the present version, and much easier to test before deployment. -- Red rose64 (talk) 07:09, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * done. This should only have the effect of removing an undocumented, and problematic functionality. It shouldn't change any other usage. Adam Cuerden (talk) 16:29, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, I set up some testcases too, and Yes check.svg Done -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:27, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Mark as historical/deprecated?
Wikinews as a project is essentially dead: output is slow and article quality is often poor. Clearly, it would not be considered a WP:RS by most standards. Should the use of this template, and linking to Wikinews articles, be discouraged? feminist (talk) 04:34, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Three out of your four statements are false (though the other one out of four, "output is slow", is merely transitory and therefore deceptive). --Pi zero (talk) 17:16, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Not that these points are necessarily relevant, since policy (to say nothing of community spirit) calls for sister projects to support each other. --Pi zero (talk) 17:26, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikinews is listed as a generally unreliable source at WP:RSP. feminist (talk) 18:19, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure if you've seen it but this has happened. Galobtter (pingó mió) 18:23, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I haven't seen it. feminist (talk) 18:35, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Just to note, the politics of the Wikipedian community has never allowed it to acknowledge reliability of Wikinews. --Pi zero (talk) 04:49, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 13 July 2020
Please change subtemplate call blist to bulleted list to avoid following an unnecessary template redirect in this widely used template. Colonies Chris (talk) 09:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Thanks! Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 10:16, 13 July 2020 (UTC)