User:--peter.josvai

hi,

I wasn't aware that I didn't have a "user page" where other editors can drop me a note... before / during / after they delete what I've added to the content...

In any case, I'm creating one now, and I'm doing so cause one of my contributions was just reverted (deleted) without any talking whatsover.. an now when I'm writing (not on Wikipedia) about the same topic, I've realized that not only was it a rude thing, and a destructive act, but it has its rude and destructive effects even now, cause I cannot just revert what was reverted..

I'm talking about this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_the_Wild_Roses_Grow and I'm talking about the edit: 20:16, 7 October 2018‎ which was reverted by User:Synthwave.94 the next day

this is basically the case, and I'm preparing to repost my contribution to that topic, which is as I see obviously a basic one, I mean, it is incredible to not see it mentioned...

For You who just happen to browse this user page (mine), let me explain:

there was a song and music video made, by Nick Cave, in 1995 (and it's been a cult ever since), and decades later, in 2018 I just realized that another album, by PJ Havery, who used to live together with Nick Cave, happened to have come out earlier than Nick Cave's...

PJ Havery's album featured a woman floating in water pretty much totally "reminiscent" of the woman floating in water in Nick Cave's video... Moreover, in PJ Harvey's album an entire song is dedicated to drowning, "down by the water" (not drown, down :)), which is first of all a "ballad", and tells the story (fiction, it is poetry) of a woman drowning (who had killed her baby and now herself)

I mean, Nick Cave obviously either borrowed the idea or created a response work of art to PJ Harvey's... (I think it is clearly a response work)

So, my "problem": why isn't this fact (that his ex-girlfriend had an album earlier the same year with a drown woman on its cover) even mentioned? in our Globe's free (universo)pedia?

For if it is cool to respect a male artist for his work, it should also be taken as normal to mention the female artist's work to which his work was a response...

This is what I'm going to try to "fix", the lack of this significant fact related to a topic -- provided that the system of Wkipedia makes it possible.

Apparently, this is an experiment on my part, testing "the system"...

at first I only wanted to mention the fact that PJ Harvey's album came out the same year... now I'll attempt to "even mention" that hers came out earlier, and that Cave's album, including this song (Where_the_Wild_Roses_Grow) came out in 1996, and that this song as a single came out in October, 1995, whereas PJ Harvey's entire album, with the cover of that drowning picture came out in February the same year ('95)...

I have good faith that it will go through, finally... but we will see, won't we? and I also believe that this little case will cast light on how the dynamism of editing by dominant and less dominant (enthusiast, not "expert") contributors is shaping Wikipedia's content...

NOTE: the only problem about this [experiment] is that The Guardian came out with a Nick Cave interview in 2019, and now it can be taken like we can see something that couldn't be seen before (which is totally not true)... and in the light of this interview the same dominant "editors" (I'd prefer calling us all contributors, which would also not reflect an oppressive hierarchy) might say, well, now we know... :)

NOTE 2: oh, I forgot to say, the reason behind this declaration of an experiment here is also because I don't want to work my way (my contribution's way) through Wikipedia's system in QUIRKS MODE (! ) :) that is, I don't ONLY want to see my contribution appear, but I want to see it appear due to (an in accordance with) Wikipedia's base principles, so to speak :)

anyhow, we will see...

with sincere friendliness :)

--peter.josvai (talk)