User:A Fellow Editor/sandbox/RR-argh

Notes and reversion diffs
... My recent interactions with Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50) start with these two edits ...

23:30, 21 December 2015‎ Kevjonesin (→top: removed off topic sidenote as inappropriate to inclusion in lede section [i.e. perhaps true, but lacks detail establishing relevance (might be included in main body if detail found to tie in to context of retribution or some such)]) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=696289000&oldid=695382202

23:57, 21 December 2015‎ Kevjonesin (→top: removed bogus citation and adapted text [linked excerpt did not support preceding text (even after correcting URL typo)]) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=696291226&oldid=696289000

... to which User:Volunteer Marek responded by rolling back both edits en masse - restoring the bad link (clearly had not given attention to "linked excerpt did not support preceding text (even after correcting URL typo)" in my previous edit summary; latched onto one aspect while changing both; apparently couldn't be bothered to make a targeted edit just affecting the part he'd actually read.

03:22, 22 December 2015 Volunteer Marek (the sentence provides context and is related to the very next one in an obvious way) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=next&oldid=696291226

^^^ it's at this point that both the Generalplan Ost and the bad URL/unsupportive reference edits become conflated as one. It seems User:Xx236 carried on the trend from User:Volunteer Marek ...

... my interactions with User:Xx236 come following ...

02:48, 23 December 2015‎ Kevjonesin (Undid revision 696455115 by Volunteer Marek (talk) "having trouble understanding your edit summary" ... Then take it to the talk page and ask; quit relinking 'google.ccom' (sic)) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=696456087&oldid=696455115

... and an exchange between User:Xx236 and I on my talk page ...

User talk:Kevjonesin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kevjonesin#Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_.281944.E2.80.9350.29 ]

... which overlaps into ...

Reversions on Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50)

 * Xx236 #1 - Unexplained - restored bad URL to bogus citation
 * 02:59, 29 December 2015‎ Xx236 (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (186,265 bytes) (+811)‎ . . (Reverted edits by Kevjonesin (talk) to last version by Volunteer Marek)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697255601&oldid=696456087


 * kevjonesin #1
 * 03:10, 29 December 2015‎ Kevjonesin (talk | contribs)‎ . . (185,454 bytes) (-811)‎ . . (Undid revision 6972556  01 by Xx236 (talk) unexplained edit containing bad URL)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697256551&oldid=697255601


 * Xx236 #2 - Unexplained - restored bad URL to unsupportive citation
 * 03:47, 29 December 2015‎ Xx236 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (186,286 bytes) (+811)‎ . . (Undid revision 697256551 by Kevjonesin (talk))

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697260112&oldid=697257592


 * Xx236 - URL correction - still same unsupportive citation though
 * 03:47, 29 December 2015‎ Xx236 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (186,285 bytes) (-1)‎ . . (URL corrected)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697260192&oldid=697260112


 * kevjonesin #2a
 * 04:49, 29 December 2015‎ Kevjonesin (talk | contribs)‎ . . (185,838 bytes) (-447)‎ . . (→‎top:  as noted before, the linked reference [book excerpt and its surrounding paragraphs] does not support the preceding lede text)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697266091&oldid=697260192


 * kevjonesin #2b
 * 05:01, 29 December 2015‎ Kevjonesin (talk | contribs)‎ . . (185,791 bytes) (-47)‎ . . (→‎top:  simplified phrase left unsourced after removal of unsupportive reference; modified so as to preamble following legitimately referenced phrase)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697267054&oldid=697266091


 * kevjonesin #2c
 * 5:22, 29 December 2015‎ Kevjonesin (talk | contribs)‎ . . (185,475 bytes) (-316)‎ . . (while true, phrase lacked detail establishing relevance; was not tied into topic 'flight and expulsion of Germans'; removed as inappropriate to lede section)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697268748&oldid=697267054


 * ^^^ the three preceding kevjonesin edits when combined yield the same result as if the Xx236 edit proceeding them had been reverted; however they each address distinct aspects; i.e. an attempt to separate earlier conflation


 * Xx236 #3 (& #4? & #5?) - unexplained - rolled back of three at once - still same unsupportive citation
 * 05:23, 29 December 2015‎ Xx236 (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (186,285 bytes) (+810)‎ . . (Reverted edits by Kevjonesin (talk) to last version by Xx236)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697268834&oldid=697268748


 * ^^^ while the three by kevjonesin preceding resulted in the same displayed article text as a single revert one might argue that as they each have there own distinct rationale (listed in their respective edit summaries) to roll them back en masse without explanation should be considered equivalent to three additional reversions for Xx236 (as in fact three distinct edits were reverted; in contrast with the preceding where three distinct edits accomplished the affect of a single reversion; once the single edit had been divided into three distinct parts they became three distinct edits; one edit was reverted in three parts then the rollback tool was used to make three reversions.)


 * ... User:Xx236 then proceeds to modify the passage with a few more edits and then moves on leaving the 2nd and 3rd paragraphs smooshed together and containing typos.

Surrounding interactions
An exchange between User:Xx236 and User:kevjonesin occurred on kevjonesin's talk page ... User talk:Kevjonesin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kevjonesin#Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_.281944.E2.80.9350.29

... also came across this ... User_talk:Volunteer_Marek(1944–50)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Volunteer_Marek#Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_.281944.E2.80.9350.29

... and this ... Talk:Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29#Please_explain_radical_changes_here

... which seem to relate.

Related diffs interleaved in chronological sequence

 * found laying things out this way to be an interesting forensic excercise, in retrospect


 * 02:05, 28 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50): new section)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevjonesin&diff=prev&oldid=697100484


 * 03:08, 28 December 2015 (edit) (undo)


 * Kevjonesin (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50): reply)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevjonesin&diff=697105836&oldid=697100484


 * 03:15, 28 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50))


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevjonesin&diff=697106326&oldid=697105836


 * 04:57, 28 December 2015 (edit) (undo)


 * Kevjonesin (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50): reply)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevjonesin&diff=697116242&oldid=697106326


 * 02:59, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * m (Reverted edits by Kevjonesin (talk) to last version by Volunteer Marek)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697255601&oldid=696456087


 * 02:59, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Please explain radical changes here: new section)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697255677&oldid=696313991


 * 03:02, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50))


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevjonesin&diff=697255938&oldid=697116242


 * 03:10, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo)


 * Kevjonesin (talk | contribs)


 * (Undid revision 6972556 01 by Xx236 (talk) unexplained edit containing bad URL)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697256551&oldid=697255601


 * 03:19, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Please explain radical changes here)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697257251&oldid=697255677


 * 03:21, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697257440&oldid=697257251


 * 03:21, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Please explain radical changes here)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697257481&oldid=697257440


 * 03:24, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50): new section)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Volunteer_Marek&diff=697257765&oldid=697043760


 * 03:33, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Volunteer Marek (talk | contribs)
 * (→‎Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50))


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Volunteer_Marek&diff=697258551&oldid=697257765


 * 03:47, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * (Undid revision 697256551 by Kevjonesin (talk))


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697260112&oldid=697257592


 * 05:23, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Xx236 (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Please explain radical changes here)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697268879&oldid=697257481


 * 06:02, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo)


 * Kevjonesin (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Flight and expulsion of Germans (1944–50): sigh)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kevjonesin&diff=697271951&oldid=697255938


 * 10:48, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo) (thank)


 * Woogie10w (talk | contribs)


 * (→‎Please explain radical changes here)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697297548&oldid=697268879


 * 13:46, 29 December 2015 (edit) (undo)


 * Kevjonesin (talk | contribs)


 * (RfC)


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Flight_and_expulsion_of_Germans_%281944%E2%80%9350%29&diff=697318240&oldid=697297548