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Waiting for Mashiach?? To Do What????

Read what Yidel Warter writes about the Amoire Shmuel who formulated his successful campaign against early Christians and devised a slogan that said "" (EIN BEIN …אין בין עולם הזה לימות המשיח אלא שיעבוד מלכיות בלבד.)

The following is the Satmer Rebbes opinion why Advocating Herzl’s plan to establish a Jewish government without Meshiach is in violation with 2 of the 13 principles of the Jewish Religion: A) Hashem Punishes, B). Waiting for Mashiach,

1) It is important to remember that Jewish Sovereignty over Eretz Yisroel is CONDITIONAL !!!!

2) At the Covenant of Hashem with our Father Abraham it was agreed that the punishment for violating the Jewish faith, would be Exile/Gules,

3) Hashem told us thru our Nevi’im that the redemption of the Jewish people will be by Meshiach.

4) The Amoira Shmuel the biggest Poisek in his Generation indicates with proclaiming the term “” EIN BEIN!!!! …..אין בין עולם הזה לימות המשיח אלא שיעבוד מלכיות בלבד “” That Hashem’s decree on us to WAIT for Meshiach, is meant for Mashiach’s EXCLUSIVE ACT to Restore A Jewish Sovereignty and to Reestablish a Jewish Government, ""All other attributes to Meshiach can be disputed or advanced by Others in alliance with Meshiach. ""

5) The Rambam brings down LeHalucha the words of Shmuel as impartial: “Umri Chachumim” and states that  whoever does not WAIT for Meshiach (as described by Shmuel) is an Apikoires. 6) The ReShab Writes a warning for our days: "That even if the Herzl plan would achieve their  goal, we must not listen to them in this matter "to make our redemption with our own power."

7) So any one who is ONLY in the OPINION that Mashiach’s JOB may be achieved without him is JUST Not Waiting for Him and is an Apikoires, and The punishment for contemplating the Herzl plan is pre warned,

To illustrate the above, envision yourself with the following Mushel:

You see a group of people waiting at a bus stop, it is assumed that these people are waiting for a bus to arrive and to take them to a certain destination,

A taxi drives by, and yells out: Hop into my taxi  ,You people are waiting for noting, no bus will arrive and the bus shelter will collapse on your head, hop into my taxi,

First group of Non Waiters

A few people pass by and say we have been waiting at another stop, and the bus broke down in front of our nose so we started to walk join us, you people are waiting for noting no bus will arrive and someone might ram their car into you ,

Second group of Non Waiters

Another group of people come by and say: Come help to push the broken bus,

Third group of Non Waiters

A few cyclists drives by, their devices blaring: We want the bus now we don't want to wait, Fourth group of Non Waiters

A horse and buggy passes by and yells out, I am a professional mechanic, if the bus will ever be fixed you won’t be able to afford the fare, hop unto my buggy,

Fifth group of Non Waiters

As the group of Waiters dwindle, one Waiter says to the fellow next to him, why did the bus manufacturer tell us to wait for a bus? when he also manufactures planes trains, ships, tanks cars, bike, scooters?, and why such lousy shelter?

The first Waiter replies, I do not understand the logic behind His Plan, but HE said when the bus will arrive The Plan will be self-understood

WAITING is a Stage of a Resolute, Determined, Unyielding, Inactive, Passive Behavior

Jews have to wait for Meshiach to create a Jewish State, creating a Jewish state without him, one becomes a Non Waiter, which the Rambam calls an APIKOIRES,"

SUMMERY

WAITING when decreed by a SUPER BEING,  has to become a frame of mind, Like it or not,  Practical or not, Popular or not

Jews have to wait for Meshiach to create a Jewish State, creating a Jewish state without him, one becomes a Non Waiter, which the Rambam calls an APIKOIRES,

In the beginning of the Common Era the Amoire Shmuel formulated his successful campaign against early Christians and devised a slogan that said: "" EIN BEIN …””אין בין עולם הזה לימות המשיח אלא שיעבוד מלכיות בלבד  to proclaim that … “” The ONLY difference between before Meshiach and after Meshiach is by HIM establishing  an Independent Jewish Government.""",   which Yoshke failed to accomplish , Shmuel’s campaign triggered the Christian   counter crusade… “Waiting for his Second Coming”.

Bavli prods  5  times the soundness and scope of Shmuel’s slogan, by analyzing 5 statements that broadens the scope of Mashiach’s Actions/Era, but all 5 statements agree that the reestablishing of a Jewish government is exclusively  Mashiach’s role for the Jewish people,(V’Yoel Moshe) and the Rambam Codifies this as Halacha by Proclaiming for us today :

1) Jews wait for Meshiach to be free of non-Jewish governments, by Meshiach Himself establishing a Jewish Sovereignty,

2) All other objectives that might result at the era of Meshiach does not necessarily have to happen by Meshiach Personally,

3) Do Not Talk about the OTHER OBJECTIVES when highlighting Meshiachs Objective (as Shmuel has done in his campaign),

4) Whoever does not believe the above or does not WAIT for Meshiach to do the Creation of the Jewish State is an  A P I K O R E S

Please be open minded by joining the Satmers in prayers, that Hashem should not punish us again, because of those who are actively Non-Waiters

Yidel Warter