User:Al Ameer son/Archive 7

as a member of WP Egypt
I would like to hear your thoughts about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Egypt#Atrash_clan_article --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 08:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

1948 villages
Hi. Could you expand Al-Wa'ra al-Sawda', Khirbat? I'm pretty sure it is a very notable settlement given its population figure.... Himalayan   14:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Great, how about Al-Mas'udiyya? Himalayan   15:31, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

sorry
About not helping out at all on the Nasser page. Truthfully I never got the reading needed done, and though every time I saw you or Diaa working on it I would try to get back to serious reading another little thing somewhere in I/P land would pop up. أنا آسف جدا ابن الامير.  nableezy  - 03:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Wel wel it's nothing akhi, no need to apologize. I know you have your commitments. I'm especially excited to see al-Azhar Mosque moved to mainspace. Drop by Nasser anytime, there's a long way ahead (longer than I expected). Salaamat, --Al Ameer son (talk) 19:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * al-Azhar hasnt moved yet, hope by next week will be ready for that.  nableezy  - 21:13, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I would like to hear your thoughts
about if you think the category "Egyptians of Syrian descent" should be in the three articles posted here: WP EGYPT On the basis that Tamer Hosnys mother was Syrian, Soad Hosnys grandfather was Syrian  and Anwar Wagdi was of Syrian descent --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 12:16, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, not many have answered, would really appreciate your input at the WP Egypt page. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 14:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Good job
Thanks for all your great work on the Arab nationalism article. :) --GHcool (talk) 18:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

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Jaljalat
Jaljalat - another page that can be added to WikiProject Palestine.ShamWow (talk) 14:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
 * actually an article in need of an AfD, not a single source focuses on them. The first source mentions the word once (The myriad Salafi armed groupings include the Jaish al-Islam (army of Islam), al-Saif al-Haq Islamiyya (Swords of Islamic Righteousness), Jaish al-Umma (Army of the Nation) and the Jaljalat (thunder) group, formed by disaffected former Hamas fighters during the period of the cease-fire, in June 2008.), the second twice (Hamas officials believe that Taleb's group, which is called Jaljalat (Thunder), was behind last week's bomb explosions outside two government-controlled security institutions in Gaza City. and Gaza Strip sources said that Jaljalat consists of dozens of former Hamas militiamen who left because of their movement's move toward "moderation."), the third once (Some follow the veteran non-political Islamic movement Salafyoon, and others the Jaljalat, comprised of former members of Hamas' military wing who objected to the cease-fire with Israel.), and the fourth once (In a recent interview with the Palestinian newspaper Al-Ayyam, a man calling himself Mahmud Talib and claiming to be a senior member of Jaljalat, another extreme Islamist group, described how Hamas made use of such groups.) Think an AfD may be in your future if you cant find sources actually talking about this group.  nableezy  - 05:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I've never heard of the Jaljalat, nor have I seen it in any major news source, including Ma'an (a Palestinian one). Give me some time to see what it's all about. --Al Ameer son (talk) 19:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Arbitration
If you want to say something: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Asmahan--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 08:39, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll give my comment towards the end of the day. --Al Ameer son (talk) 19:37, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Name query
Hi Al Ameer son. I have a query regarding the name given by the Knesset website to this Druze politician. I am not sure that "Laviv-Hussein Abu-Rochan" is a correct transliteration, as from what I remember from learning Arabic, the language does not have the letter "v", or use "ch". Based on the Arabic spelling "لبيب حسين أبو ركن", I would think it should be "Labib Hussein Abu Rokan". However, this is not a name I've come across before, so wanted to check that (as he is Druze and may have links to the former French colonies of Lebanon/Syria), his name isn't actually a Francophone one (in which cases Laviv and Rochan are possible). Hope this makes sense! Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  14:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't actually read the Arabic script. You might have better luck asking User:Fjmustak, User:Nableezy, or User:Zozo2kx. I can say I have never heard the name "Labib" or "Rokan" (which might be "Rokhan"), but these might be classic Arabic names that Bedouins often use. --Al Ameer son (talk) 19:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * If I were transliterating the Arabic it would be Labib Hussein Abu  Looking online I am seeing a journal entry spelling the last name Rokon.  nableezy  - 22:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers Nableezy. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  11:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

administrator request
I had deleted the draft of al-Azhar to try and reduce the number of "garbage" revisions, but there are some things in that history I now need. Would it be possible to restore that history and delete the first two edits of the current page (the paste of the original and a move) and merge the two together?  nableezy  - 19:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Which specific version do you need restored? --Al Ameer son (talk) 19:37, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I dont know, would it be possible to restore them all and merge to the current page?  nableezy  - 20:39, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * All the revisions (180 out of 180) have been restored. --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * sickest man, good lookin out. Could you delete these revisions:, , , ? Thanks,  nableezy  - 21:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Wela shee, but unfortunately, I wasn't able to delete those four revisions. Try asking another admin I guess. (And tell me who does it so he can teach me ;) I know I aughta be ashamed I'm still a newb six months in... --Al Ameer son (talk) 21:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The way to do it is to delete the page, highlight the revisions you want removed, click "Invert selection", and then restore. -- Avi (talk) 23:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks plenty Avi. --Al Ameer son (talk) 19:39, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Request
Hi. Can you expand Arab al-Shamalina? I've added a little.. Himalayan   21:31, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Will do soon ;). --Al Ameer son (talk) 19:01, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK is about to expire. Himalayan   19:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

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Sorry for not working on Nasser in the past few days
Dear Al Ameer son, I'm very sorry for not working on Nasser in the past few days. With fasting and being back from College an hour before sunset it's really difficult to concentrate on writing and expanding. I'll be back to editing Nasser in a week or so and I hope you didn't give up on me.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 17:31, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

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Postponed
Due to User:Arab Cowboy's vacation, he requested that the case be postponed until October 9. Does that work for you?  hmwith  ☮  15:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, ignore that last request. I've discussed this with other active users in the case, and postponing it will not work for everyone. The arbs will not make a decision until the user returns, but the case can resume normally otherwise. Thanks for your cooperation,  hmwith  ☮  00:03, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Rashid al-Haj Ibrahim
Hi, what should I do if I saw someone break the rules of Wikipedia ?. Ahmad2099 (talk) 11:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks, but there is this user Ashrf1979, he is deleting my referenced edits in Al-Mutanabbi, I told him in 11:01, 17 September 2009, why his doing that, be never replay. he is also doing his best in an article with no even one reference, I really, recommend for deleting it, Thanks again. Ahmad2099 (talk) 02:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Shokran jazelan, but what about the unreferenced Article ? Ahmad2099 (talk) 04:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Biriyya
Hi, do you have any info about this village? Himalayan   18:10, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey amigo, no need to apologise you are always doing some useful!! I actually have info on Khalidi's book for Safad, I wondered if you had any other books that's all!! Thanks. Himalayan   09:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy eid
Kol sinni wa inta bi kheir akhoui.  T i a m u t talk 18:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Sheik Bureik
Hi again, After some time, (and big.time computer-problem) I am trying the Jayvd -solution...and I think it will work (at least if I can have the 1948-template uncollapsed while I´m working on the villages!) ...hope you didn´t get too put off by all the "dramah" (I normally *do* try to avoid it here ;P)

On another note, I was surfing over at the commons, and I found this: ...which made me very curious. I checked Khalidi,1992 and Petersen, 2002: both: nothing. But then, almost by chance, I saw in Moshe Sharon (2004) CIASP, Volume three, D-F........and there there was a lot about it, on p. xxxvii ff. under Beth Shearim and Shaykh Bureik. It seems as it was also mentioned in Canaan, T (1927): Mohammedan Saints and Sanctuaries in Palestine, p 111.(cited in Sharon, 2004, p.xxxix.) Sharon also mention nearby inscriptions (laments) over burial site, about 1000 years old, which he speculates could be the beginning of the shrine. In short: a most interesting place. From what I can find, the place is the "Sheik Bureik", still red-linked here: List of Arab localities in Israel.

Now, I have done next-to-nothing on present Arab localities in Israel, and I have no idea as to how to find present-day-information. As I know you have done quite a bit in this area; do you feel like starting an article here? Then I can fill in the history-bit, if you don´t have access to the Sharon 2004-book... Cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And I forgot to say Happy Eid! ...btw...I see there are a lot of references to Shaykh Bureik in Hadawi, 1970; see under Haifa. Apparently its land-area was split into many others.... Anyway: enjoy your well-deserved break! Cheers, Huldra (talk) 04:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Rashad Khalifa
Hi, Can you please take a moment to review Rashad Khalifa? Two single-purpose accounts want to use it to promote a religious website with unacceptable text. At least that's what it seems to me, but I'd appreciate your opinion. Khalifa is featured on that site, but not at the top levels. Would you recommend a semi-protect? Thanks! Zerotalk 11:42, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The website looks pointless and isn't useful. The article should be semi-protected and perhaps those two new users should be warned. If they were already warned and are still edit-warring then I recommend they be blocked for 24-31 hours. --Al Ameer son (talk) 15:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Eshmun Temple
Hi mate, i noticed you are active now so i could not resist asking you if you could take a look at this ^ article, i'm hoping for a GA (at least :P). Your remarks would mean so much. Thank you, Happy Eid and congrats for your Adminship. Eli +  17:28, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate, your help is much appreciated. Eli  +  20:13, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your support and encouragement, i am very proud of the article, plus the site holds a special meaning for me  Eli  +  09:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Sheikh Bureik
Unfortunately I can't find anything about population - there's no article on the Hebrew wiki. There are a couple of references to it (Hebrew spelling: שיח'בוריק) on government websites (e.g. this), but nothing of any substance I'm afraid. The link provided suggests that it is in the Hadera area though. пﮟოьεԻ  5  7  08:30, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Google Maps shows it here. However, an aerial view of the area shows absolutely no buildings.  An Arabic search came up with mostly one line about a massacre on December 30, 1947 in which 40 people were killed in the village of Sheikh Bureik. Another Arabic website mentions that Sde Ya'akov was built on part of the village of Sheikh Bureik, as well as Elro'i, Kiryat Haroshet and Sha'ar HaAmakim.

Another site had this to say about Sheikh Bureik: Sheikh Bureik is a small Arab village to the southwest of Haifa. The Armenians settled this small village next to the settlements of Atlit and Neve Yam, and in 36, the Armenian population did not exceed 30. The village disappeared and on its ruins several Zionist settlements were built, such as Elro'i and Kiryat Haroshet and others. Sheikh Bureik and Khirbet Al-Malaha contain ruins and tombs carved in rock and presses and tanks(?). The Zionists try as usual to claim the history of Sheikh Bureik to their culture by saying it was built on top of Beit Shearim. And in order to achieve this goal, the Jewish Agency launched archaeological digs in Palestine in 1937 and unearthed mass graves on the Western slope of the hill. And in 1938, some murals were found inside the tombs, as well as about 130 engravings mostly in Greek, seven in Palmyran, and a few in Hebrew. But finding a few Hebrew writings does not mean the city was Hebrew. Aside from the Anti-Semitic rhetoric in this paragraph, the author seems to be confusing two different Sheikh Bureiks: One near Atlit (the Google Maps one), and one in the Beit She'arim National Park area. I found another document (that seems more authoritative and includes references) that talks about the one near Atlit (as one of the archaeological sites near Atlit, there's more info on 'Atlit we could include in its article): Khirbat Al-Malaha: called Khirbat Al-Malha today. In the southern part of the village, it contains (including Sheikh Bureik) "foundations, rock carvings, tombs, caves, quarries, tanks, and presses" (Palestinian Facts "الوقائع الفلسطينية" p. 1585). And Sheikh Bureik is a small Armenian village next to the settlements of Atlit and Neve Yam. In 1961 it had a population of 61. During Roman times, Migdal Malha was established in that location, and Yaqut mentioned it in Al-Mushtarak page 385 by the name of "Majdal MalHaa'".

A Google book search on Sheikh Bureik resulted in one full view book (Biblical Researches in Palestine), and a few other snippet view books.

Finall, this site mentions that Sheikh Bureik was one of the 20 villages in the Shefa 'Amr Liwa' of the Akka Qada' (in Ottoman times), which would put it closer to the Beit Shearim location.

Good night. --Fjmustak (talk) 10:33, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Zero told me it was mentioned in Conder, Claude Reignier and H.H. Kitchener (1881): The Survey of Western Palestine: memoirs of the topography, orography, hydrography, and archaeology. London:Committee of the Palestine Exploration Fund. vol 1 ...Moshe Sharon (2004) mentions p.325, p.345, p. 346, p. 347, p. 348, p.349, p. 350, and p.351. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 02:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if you look at the ext. links under Beit She'arim National Park...you´ll see pictures of the the shrine. It does not look as if there are any houses in the vicinity. In the submission to UNESCO in 2002, it is written that the place was  "Known by its Arabic name Sheikh Ibreik". Guerin also wrote about it in 1880 (according to Sharon). This is what Canaan wrote about the shrine in 1927 (accoring to Sharon): "After a barren woman has taken a bath in el-Matba´ah she washes herself in Ein Ishaq; she goes then to ash-shekh Ibreik to offer a present." (Canaan, 1927, p. 111). The Beit She'arim National Park-page is completely lacking/misleading: the place was used as a burial place also in the Muslim-period, at least until the tenth century. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 17:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Page 158 of Hütteroth has "Sayk Burayk" in the vacinity of modern Kiryat Tivon, not near Atlit, which was incidentally written on the image of a building someone found (can't recall where). 1596 population = 22 Muslim families. Its district was "Za'ama wa timar, Nahiya Sahil 'Atlit, Liwa Lajjun". Zerotalk 08:13, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, nice research everybody! Well, instead of starting an article immediately, let's start a draft page. List all of your sources at WikiProject Palestine/Sheikh Bureik. We can extract the info from them afterward. --Al Ameer son (talk) 00:43, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

<--- I'm getting closer to the conclusion that there were two places called Sheikh Bureik in the Haifa area. One near Atlit and the other near Beit She'arim park. Here's another site that talks about the unrecognized village of Ein Hawd. It says: Original location: About 12km south of Haifa, about 3km away from the Mediterranean. To the northeast (8km) is Isifya. To the east (6km) is Daliyat al-Karmel. To the southeast (7.5km) is Maqura. To the southwest (5km) Sheikh Bureik..... The original location of Ein Hawd is the current artist village of Ein Hod. About 5 kilometers to the south-west is the Google maps marker (next to Atlit cemetery). --Fjmustak (talk) 01:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * P.S: Also per the link Number57 provided, it places Sheikh Bureik in the Hadera region. Geva Carmel, Ein Carmel, and Atlit are in the Hadera area....  These communities are about half way between Haifa and Hadera. --Fjmustak (talk) 02:03, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's an Israeli tourist information site with a tour in the Ein Hod, Atlit area, ending in Sheikh Bureik. It describes exactly the way to get to the Google map location (HaMeyasdim to HaHarduf past a train station, all the way down to the Neve Yam interchange, take the dirt road on the left...)  It also mentions something about Sheikh Bureik being Barak ben Avinoam.  Talks about the Armenian refugess settling the area in 1926 until the eighties.  I'll keep looking for information about both locations. --Fjmustak (talk) 02:40, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Just to be clear, do we know if either of the possibly two Sheikh Bureiks are still populated today? --Al Ameer son (talk) 03:17, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

On the Survey of Western Palestine map (Sheet 5 showing late 1878) "Sheikh Abrak" appears south of Atlit. See the portion I uploaded for the Atlit article: at lower left. It is shown as ruins with some tombs. "Sheikh Abreik" shows as a living village in the Tivon area (Sheet 5, Li). So these are certainly two different locations. The "Name Lists" volume of the SWP says Abrak might be from "to bless" and "Abreik" is "really the same word...but pronounced with the imaleh" (what does that mean? my Arabic is nonexistent). The Tivon one was a village in 1596, as I indicated above. The Atlit one was the site of the 1596 village Malaha (pop 8 families). Notice "Kurbet Malhah" right beside Sheikh Abrak on the map; SWP Vol I, 314-316 describes it as ruins of a village with many tombs nearby. Based on the age and location, Vol I p289 suggests Malhah was the Magdiel of the Onomasticon of Eusebius of Caesarea. Zerotalk 04:27, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Ok, I have started the above WikiProject Palestine/Sheikh Bureik....and I found the Sharon-pages on Google-book! Start adding, everyone! Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:43, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi mate how can we known if a wikipedian is a sock puppeteer?
I have been harassed by this user Fifelfoo and it seems to me its the same as Anarchovegan. There is no whois link on the bottom of their pages, anyways, one is adding unsourced fallacies and the other is sending me these hilarious attack warnings, thank you Eli  +  14:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

MHL/Admin
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Could you take a look?
At Arab Christians. It was recently moved to Arabic speaking Christians out of process, and now it cannot be moved back. There is a discussion on the talk page and both and I another editor have tried to move the page back, but it needs admin help. A previous move discussion had decided Arab Christians was good. The move was done with some discussion but without a formal move request and there is no clear consensus on a new name. There is even some discussion about creating a second article. Your review and any feedback on how to proceed would be appreciated.  T i a m u t talk 22:33, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, I tried to undo the damage myself but failed dismally I believe. From what I can tell, some pages have been re-directed, some have been moved and there are various titles involved. The best way to trace it is look at User:Elie plus's contribs. I tried to undo some edits and then undid some undo's, but I fear I mucked it up more. Can you help?  T i a m u t talk 00:38, 27 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I think I undid all my edits now. So the issue remains looking at Elie's contribs to see what he moved and redirected where and how. I'm not good at this it seems.  T i a m u t talk 00:43, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Message concerning status of ArbCom case
Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Asmahan/Workshop. Let me know if you need assistance,  hmwith  ☮  17:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
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Gamal Abdel Nasser
Hi there. I noticed that you are expanded the section on Nasser's family, and I hope you don't mind if I make a few suggestions. Right now the additions read a bit too much like a narrative and could do with some rewording to be more encyclopediatic. For instance, instead of saying "The newly-wed couple settled in a modest villa located in Manshiyat al-Bakri, a Cairo suburb. He would live the remainder of his life in the house.", it would be better to say something like this: "After their wedding, the couple moved into a house in Manshiyat al-Bakri, a suburb of Cairo, where they would live for the rest of their lives." I also feel like your including a little bit too much detail. It makes more sense to stick with the basic facts. For instance, some parts of this paragraph: The couple lived a relatively conventional Egyptian lifestyle, with Tahia concentrating on home-making and raising the children, while Nasser concentrated on his career and politics. Throughout their marriage, she mostly remained outside the public eye. The two would freely discuss state affairs with each other, but for the most part Nasser preferred to relax when at home as a "normal" husband and father. Although he was a busy person, Nasser devoted a lot of his time with his children, playing ping-pong and chess with them in particular when they grew older. could probably be removed and the main points written in one or two sentences. I'm not trying to undermine your authority or anything, and I hope you don't take this as a criticism. I just thought I'd try to make some helpful suggestions as an objective third party. :-) Tad Lincoln (talk) 04:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, how about something like this for a more succinct version of the above passage: "Throughout his life, Nasser did his best to keep his career separate from his family life. Although he and Tahia would sometimes discuss politics at home, he preferred to spend as much of his free time as possible with his children." I'll be glad to take a look at the rest of the article and any additions made in the future and do what I can to help you guys get the article to FA status. Tad Lincoln (talk) 00:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Tahia Kazem
Hey Al Ameer son, I'm glad we started working again on Nasser. About the wife of Egyptian presidents. Before Jehan Al Sadat the wife of the president didn't have any role in politics, since she wasn't the chosen president. Jehan Al Sadat introduced that and also introduced the naming after Husbands (Al Sadat from Anwar Al Sadat and Suzanne Mubarak from Hosny Mubarak). This is something that isn't of arabic tradition and isn't practiced, afk, in any other arabic country. The word First lady of Egypt doesn't exist in the Egyptian's minds or politics. The arabic articles mentions President's wives as their wives, that's it. When there is a candidacy only the individual nominated presents himself and not his hole family, since that isn't a concern of the public at all. In Nasser's time arabic values were of the utmost importance. A president's wife retains her name (Tahia Kazem) and isn't part of the political life. Affiliating an individual to political lives, just because he/she is related to the president is considered an abuse of power. So referring to Tahia Kazem as a first lady would be considered wrong. She was the wife of the president. I'm not sure if Tahia Kazem has enough notability to have her own article. If you could just list sources or type a stub under your namespace with any notability proof then I could give you a better opinion on the notability part. Do u think she would satisfy the conditions?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 18:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Jisr Jindas
Hi, you have gone awfully quiet? hmm, anyway; I´m collecting notes on the Jisr Jindas-bridge, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Palestine/Jisr_Jindas

Now, as you can see from the "Baybars lions" part, apparently there are similar lions on Qasr al-Basha, in Gaza....do you have any idea as to where we could get some pictures of those lions?...(Btw; the Lions' Gate -article is filled with completely wrong informantion.  Oh well...one of these days...)  Cheers, take care, Huldra (talk) 22:37, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Btw, Ash & I have a discussion going about it here, cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:41, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Help needed on Arabic topics
Salam Ameer:

Please see if these unjustified and unsummarized edits: here and here by the IP: 132.198.88.98 are justified and if they should stay. According to admin Sancho's rule on the matter on Omar Sharif's Talk page, if Chahine's father was of Lebanese descent, this does not justify labelly Chahine himself as of Lebanese origin. This would be original research. Please also see if the propaganda youtube video clips here have a place in WP. Thanks. --Arab Cowboy (talk) 21:44, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

azhar
Thanks bro, got back into it a lil while ago. Still a little way to go but it is almost ready to be moved into article space.  nableezy  - 02:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

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Welcome back?
Hey Ameer, I see you've removed the long wikibreak template, does that mean you're back in full force? Welcome back, bro. --Fjmustak (talk) 03:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

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Arabic translation sought
Al Ameer - can you make out what is written on the tomb covering in this image? Thanks. Chesdovi (talk) 14:36, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry man... unfortunately, I can't read Arabic. I recommend you ask Fjmustak. Hopefully he could help ;). --Al Ameer son (talk) 20:42, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Why can't you read Arabic?! Can you also not read the Quran? Why not try and learn it!? Hopefully Fjmustak will be able to assit. Thanks! Chesdovi (talk) 20:49, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Arafat's sexual orientation
This issue has been raised many times from many quarters. Yet each time it is raised, there's no discussion or debate. The issue is immediately quashed by the "thought police." No matter how many sources are provided, the edits are reverted in knee-jerk fashion. I have provided three sources for the edit and can provide numerous others (Al Jazeera is not among them). Before instictively reverting sourced material, I suggest you take it to the discussion page where the matter can be discussed. Respectfully,--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 21:22, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Re lead request
I took a look at the current lead. Its brief, but not so bad really. (Did you write it?) Anyway, I'm not so free these days. But if I may make a suggestion... the nationalization of the Suez Canal and Nasser's involvement in the Non Aligned Movement following the 1956 Bandung conference really should both be mentioned in the lead too. He was a figure of some renown even outside the Arab world for his leadership among "third world" countries. I believe in an encyclopedia writing from a worldwide perspective, such things should be mentioned prominently as well. Good luck with that though and I'll try to pop in when I can.  T i a m u t talk 11:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

RE Damascus
Hello Ameer. Long time! I just left Ahmadc a message, and will hopefully get back to working on Damascus ASAP. Yazan (talk) 04:05, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Damascus
Okay, thanks for the note. I'll see what I can do.  Spencer T♦ Nominate! 23:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * And are we using BC or BCE? I get confused about this every time. If you want, you can make the changes-the article currently has both, and I'd like continuity. Thanks,  Spencer T♦ Nominate! 17:11, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Damascus‎
Hi, thank you for the revamping the article of Damascus! I've admired your calm and sensible meditations to one of hardest areas in Wikipedia. I just happened to translate the intro of one of your GA articles to an other language Wikipedia without knowing that it is a GA, and has been expanded by you. When I translate some article, if the article is in a bad shape, understanding and translating the content naturally are very hard. However, when I translated Gaza, I could get a compact information in good prose without any hardship. Arabic subjects are too much underestimated, so well, I'm glad to see that one of important articles like Damascus is getting expanded by you. Keep up the good work. --Caspian blue 03:18, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

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Congrats on your awesome contributions, medals and RfA
I don't know where to send that but I guess here's the best place :) mizzo (talk) 15:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

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Could I present some things at the Asmahan talkpage for you? I am not asking you to come back to mediate or something like that, but if I could present to you some diffs of things (involving just a couple of words) during our past mediations and then you could carry out the appropriate edits in accordance with what was agreed, would this be possible? if not, let me know. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 13:03, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

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Peer Review
Dear Al Ameer son, I've requested a peer review on Abdel Nasser in the general WP:PR, which hopefully will give us some guidance on what can still be improved. The peer review page is here Peer review/Gamal Abdel Nasser/archive1, I have loaned 4 books of Nasser (Alexander, Stephens, Aburish, and another of 1960 telling his youth story)... I will be adding the information shortly, a general peer review in the meantime would move us a step further. Hope you're OK with it,--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 08:38, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

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troublesome editor
Hi AL ameer son, I want to bring your an attention to an editor who makes daily POV edits to a lot of articles,♥Yasmina♥ has a phobia of anything Arab or Arabic, even though she speaks Arabic at home and her edits involve removing the "Arab" categories to articles of Lebanese people as she sees fit. For example she is now going to articles of Lebanese Americans and removing the category "Arab American", even though the latter category relates to Americans whose ancestry comes from the Arab world. I just read WP:EGRS and saw that it is legitimate to have a category such as "Arab Americans" for Americans who come from countries where the official language is Arabic. I have explained to this editor on more than one occasion that she does not speak for the Lebanese Christian community, but she doesn't see the distinction, For instance when I brought up the example of Jim Zogby, who is a Lebanese Christian, who founded the Arab-American institute and her resposne was that he is a traitor. How do we proceed with this issue? Is not POV to remove this category for all articles on Lebanese people?George Al-Shami (talk) 08:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Salam Amir. I agree with Goerge here.  Please see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Miss-simworld#On_Arab_identity --Arab Cowboy (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Needless to say, it is POV to remove the "Arab" label in categories for Lebanese-related articles, whether it has to do with Muslim or Christian Lebanese since obviously many, if not most, Lebanese people identify as Arabs and are Arabic-speakers. Even if some Lebanese in the diaspora reject being called Arab, the fact that Lebanon is undoubtedly an Arab country (the birthplace of Arab nationalism along with Syria for that matter) outweighs people's personal views. Unfortunately, I don't know if I can be too helpful in this issue because I've been inactive lately and will continue to be inactive for some time. I have a feeling this is going to be a long, tiring, and complicated debate since it involves the same users who have relentlessly tried to eliminate the "Arab" label from Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt and other Arab world-related articles on Wikipedia in the past. Since I probably won't be available for a while, try contacting other administrators for help with this issue. I will try to pop in again tomorrow or sometime this week, but if not, my apologies. --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes I am very proud to fight against Pan-Arab racist Bias and POV who writes pages of propaganda rather than articles who also cannot refute my edits & sources but instead resort to cheap tricks including calling me a racist which i am not, I hate all forms of racism. look at my edits at the Brigitte Gabriel article then come back at me and call me a anti-arab racist.Most Lebanese do not identify as Arab only most Muslims do this is part of the root cause of the sectarian conflict in Lebanon and split of identity. Keep in mind a majority of Lebanese live out of Lebanon and are not Moslem but in Lebanon not so.Many of us are sick and tired of Arabism being pushed down our throat and being bullied if we do not accept or argue the other point of view of it we are deemed racist.this is your own POV we fought against pan-aRabism for example in the 1958 Lebanon crisis and Lebanon was bullied into becoming an arab identified country in the 1990 taef through pressure. You have to undestand along with the dead nasserist racist ideology the middle east is a diverse Pluaralistic place and doesnt belong exclusively to Arabs or that all the people who live in it are mostly only arabs. Arab is an Identity give me a source where these Lebanese who are listed have themselves stated themself as Arab (i.e not in Lebanon since the taef famous leb ppl are mostly force to say it in public otherwise publically they will get shunned) but for the Arab-American, Arabs of the Ottoman era etc Then I will leave it as is if not then dont complain if I remove an unsourced POV and dont even try to cry racism either. Arabism is racism LOL all these people have proven their cowardice by starting a thread about me without even notifying me. ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 01:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

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Muhammad Tulaimat - unref BLP
Wondered if you could assist w sources on this guy. There are many Ghits and Gbooks hits on his name in Arabic, but I cant evaluate them. thanks Power.corrupts (talk) 08:53, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This has been fixed, perhaps you could look at Usaama bin Abdullah al Khayyat, I cannot locate English sources, he has a substantial page in Arabic. Power.corrupts (talk) 22:41, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Damascus Citadel?
Marhaba Ameer. I am not sure if you're active at the moment on WP, but there's a push to bring Citadel of Damascus to GA, interested? Yazan (talk) 19:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the encouragement Ameer. And best of luck both in your work at Nasser, and in real life work. I hope you're enjoying the spring though ;) Yazan (talk) 06:41, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

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Jifna
Hi, long time, not see! Hope you are ok, you are missed around here ;)

Anyway, you once asked me for sources on Jifna, well, some of Elihu Grant books are now freely available on the net, including his (1921): The People of Palestine

It has a bit about Jifna...including a nice picture: Straw mat and basket making: Jifna woman ...which could perhaps be used?

Cheers, and good luck with whatever you do! Huldra (talk) 20:22, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, welcome back! ...will you stay? Cheers, Huldra (talk) 06:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

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need help in moving page name
the page Runet is dealing with internet in russia and should be changed to Internet in Russia. each article which dealing with internet in a certain country is called "Internet in ---" can u pls change the name of that article?? thx Superzohar Talk 12:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

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runet to Internet in Russia
i didnt manage to change the name. it wrote me: The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name, or use Requested moves to ask an administrator to help you with the move. maybe u can help?? Superzohar Talk 16:43, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Please expand the reason for rename. What does "MoS" mean? What kind of MoS, what does it say in which paragraph? --ssr (talk) 11:21, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Gamal Abdel Nasser for GA
I've nominated Gamal Abdel Nasser for GA so we can move some steps further in the process of getting this to FA. We can get through this a review on the article's quality so we can further improve it.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 09:30, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Congrats Gamal Abdel Nasser is now GA
Hey Al Ameer son, Gamal Abdel Nasser was promoted to GA status, so congratulations.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 07:53, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

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Help Needed for the article Zakir_Naik
Recently a stange pattern of events have been happening in the dispute process of the article Zakir_Naik, What I observed is that everybody who have been consistently disputing some edit content in the article have been issued a permenant block, I was a victim of such a block, but fortunatly I got my id unblocked by a secondary opinion.

At times a lot of people share the same views. Especially now since this article have been modyfied a lot of times and some content were recently added which defeats the neutrality of the article. A lot of negetive content now exists in the article, chances for correcting them are denied. My story is that, I created an id in Wiki just so that I can put in my contributions to make this article neutral, I believe there are lot of other users who started off just like me. I think the suspecion of sock puppet starts right there, but we fail to consider that these users might be all seperate individuals, sharing the same views.

Iam seeing that the block is sometimes issued based on their common views.If that is the case Ari89 and Jeff5102 share exactly the same view they are both contributing the same content to the article Zakir_Naik.

I really fail to understand why the others are all victims of the ban. I would please request you to look into this in a detail manner, Iam not implying that a violation by sock puppet is not at all commited. But I really believe that we might have erred in some cases for sure, like it happened to me. Right now Iam the only person who is contributing to the discussion of the article, and I am being ignored completly. So many of the users have been telling me that it's simple politics being played, just for them to have control over the article and supress users who dispute them, I honestly don't believe that, I still have faith in all the admins of wikipedia. I truely believe we can come up with a proper justice in this matter.

Investigations carried out for the blocked users can be found here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Awliya/Archive

Thankx ! -- Saju wiki (talk) 21:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Hims_Gap
I invite you to participate in this discussion.  Spencer T♦ C 02:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Remember this?
Hey mate, i have nominated Eshmun Temple for FA, care to check out the entry and leave your comments? you helped the article reach GA in the past, i hope we can get to FA status this time :) Eli  +  16:25, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Homs/Hims
You previously participated in a discussion of the name of the article Hims. You might be interested in a move proposal at Talk:Hims. —  AjaxSmack   01:03, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

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Help Needed
Hi. I need your help help with this article. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 21:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey
Welcome back. Just wanted you to know that you were in fact noticed and that it really was rudeness from other users that made it so you had not received this message earlier. الف مرحبا,  nableezy  - 03:57, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hahaha wla rudeness wla ishy ya zalameh. I haven't been on for months (actually feels like a year). Anyway, its good to hear from you nableezy and even better to see you have still been contributing relentlessly. Congratulations on Al-Azhar Mosque, it's shaping up very nicely... I will see if I could contribute to it although it already reads amazingly, a lot of valuable info. We should really try to upgrade al-Azhar and Gamal Abdel Nasser as well to Featured status. I hope I could keep editing for the next few weeks that I'm on break. --Al Ameer son (talk) 06:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

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Al-Birwa
why did you change "Palestinian Christians" to Christians, and "Palestinian Christians" to "Arab Christians"?

I think that it should be made clear that the Christians of this town are Palestinians and not foreigners, and in the second link, that these Christians are Palestinians, and should be linked to Palestinian Christians link and not Arab Christians (which talks about all Arab Christians in general)--82.213.38.2 (talk) 10:47, 14 December 2010 (UTC)