User:Alan Liefting/Essays/Notability of products

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From Articles for deletion/Avaya 9600 Series IP Deskphones:


 * In the absence of a specific product notability guideline to have to resort to the the general notability guidelines and the "spirit" of what the community wants to include in WP. Historic AfDs, the call by Jimmy Wales to improve the articles we already have (rather than creating stacks of new ones), the maintenance burden on a possible reducing number of experienced editors, and the need to be vigilant about SPAM by stealth are all reasons to take a hard line on product articles. I would like to see a prescriptive product notability guideline that can be used as a basis for speedy deletions. We already have such tools for biographical articles, by way of example, and it allows articles to be promptly speedily deleted. This saves the a lot of administration time for editors since there is no PRODing and AfDing, and no time wasted on building an article that may eventually be deleted.


 * The prescriptive notability guidelines currently in use may have developed because of the dearth of articles that didn't sort of fit in with WP. For instance being human WP editors naturally wrote a lot of bio articles leading to the creation of a whole series of prescriptive notability guidelines for such articles. The same thing should happen with products. While articles on, for example, the Apple IIe, Ford Cortina, iPod, Raleigh Twenty etc may be notable, but an article on the Avaya 9600 Series IP Deskphones is far less notable. It may be easy to have all manner of product articles referenced from trade publications and product reviews and so they will meet the general notability guideline but should they be included in WP?


 * So to answer you question DDG, an article on an Avaya product line is a little better than articles on the individual products, but my preference is that the Avaya article itself is devoted to their products (as recommended at WP:PRODUCT). At present the product section is a list with a template normally used as a footer jammed in it as it is at present. It should be rewitten in prose and the template removed.


 * I realise that I am not putting up strong AfD argument based on policy and guidelines but from a sort of philosophical, administrative and managerial perspective I feel that the previous comments weigh in favour of deleting some of the product articles on WP. -- Alan Liefting (talk) -

Discussions

 * Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Archive 9 (there are others)

Some past AfDs

 * Articles for deletion/Pcc160
 * Articles for deletion/Call zone
 * Articles for deletion/List of Lexmark products
 * Articles for deletion/Netgear DG834 (series)
 * Articles for deletion/Logitech Illuminated Keyboard
 * Articles for deletion/SecureEasySetup
 * Articles for deletion/Zoya (Nail Polish)
 * Articles for deletion/Lyric Hearing
 * Articles for deletion/Avaya Secure Router 2330
 * Articles for deletion/Avaya ERS 5500

Articles for deletion/Reactivity (company)