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Coronets in coats of arms of the Royal Family
Since King Charles III's decision that coronets should not be worn at his coronation, they only place where they appear is in coats of arms. Using the various categories in the royal warrant of 1661, as quoted in the royal warrant of 1917 https://www.heraldica.org/topics/britain/prince_highness_docs.htm#Warrant_of_Nov_19_1917 and including the wording from 1917 that "the respective wives and widows of the persons entitled under this our royal warrant or under the aforesaid warrant of king Charles the Second may bear and use the coronet of their respective husbands"

1. "by the son and heir apparent of the sovereign and his successors a coronet composed of crosses and fleurs-de-lis with one arch and in the midst a ball and cross as in the royal crown" - can be seen in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Prince_of_Wales.svg

1A. The Princess of Wales bears her husband's coronet - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_Catherine,_Princess_of_Wales.svg

2. "by the immediate sons other than the heir apparent and by the brothers of the sovereign and of his successors a coronet composed of crosses and fleurs de lis only" (1661)

a. Prince Andrew, Duke of York - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Andrew,_Duke_of_York.svg

b. Prince Edward, Duke of Edinburgh - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Edward,_Duke_of_Edinburgh.svg - did not change when he became Duke of Edinburgh

c. Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Harry,_Duke_of_Sussex.svg

"to the immediate daughters and sisters of ourselves and of our successors a coronet composed of four crosses pattee and four fleurs-de-lis"

d. Princess Anne, the Princess Royal - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Anne,_the_Princess_Royal.svg

2A.

a. Sarah, Duchess of York used such a coronet during her marriage - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Sarah,_Duchess_of_York,_1986-1996.svg

b. The Duchess of Edinburgh uses such a coronet - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Sophie,_Duchess_of_Edinburgh.svg

c. The Duchess of Sussex uses such a coronet - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_Meghan,_Duchess_of_Sussex.svg

3. "to all the sons and daughters of the son and heir apparent of us and of our successors a coronet composed of two crosses pattee four fleurs-de-lis and two strawberry leaves" the sons and daughters of the current Prince of Wales do not yet have coats of arms. For the sons of the Prince of Wales in the last reign, see

a. Prince William, Duke of Cambridge (as he then was) - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_William,_Duke_of_Cambridge.svg

b. Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex (n the last reign) - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_Harry,_Duke_of_Sussex_(2015%E2%80%932022).svg

3A.

a. The Duchess of Cambridge (as she then was) - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Catherine,_Duchess_of_Cambridge.svg

b. The Duchess of Sussex (in the last reign) - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_Meghan,_Duchess_of_Sussex_(2018-present.).svg

4. "by all the sons respectively having the title of duke of the immediate sons and of the brothers of the sovereign and his successors a coronet composed of crosses and flowers or leaves such as are used in the composure of the coronets of dukes" (1661) and "to the sons not bearing the rank of duke and to the daughters of the sons other than the heir apparent and of the brothers of us and of our predecessors and of our successors a coronet composed of four crosses pattee and four strawberry leaves"

a. Prince Richard, Duke of Gloucester - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Richard,_Duke_of_Gloucester.svg

b. Prince Edward, Duke of Kent - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Edward,_Duke_of_Kent.svg - although the coronet which he is wearing in https://tiaramania.tumblr.com/post/695298645242806272/what-coronets-do-you-think-the-duke-and-duchess-of appears to be "composed of crosses and fleurs de lis only". That would be the coronet of a son of a Sovereign. Is it possible that he wore his father's coronet?

c. Prince Michael of Kent - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Michael_of_Kent.svg

d. Princess Alexandra - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Alexandra,_The_Honourable_Lady_Ogilvy.svg

e. Princess Beatrice of York - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Beatrice_of_York.svg

f. Princess Eugenie of York - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Eugenie_of_York.svg

g. Has Lady Louise Windsor (who turned 18 on 8th November 2021) been granted arms? I assume that her brother James (aged 15) has not.

h. I assume that the son and daughter of the Duke of Sussex do not yet bear arms.

5. "to the sons and daughters of the daughters of us and of our predecessors and of our successors a coronet composed of four fleurs-de-lis and four strawberry leaves"

a. David Armstrong-Jones, 2nd Earl of Snowdon - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_David_Armstrong-Jones_as_2nd_Earl_of_Snowdon.svg shows the coronet of an Earl. There is a discussion at Talk:David_Armstrong-Jones,_2nd_Earl_of_Snowdon/Archive_1 as to whether his coat of arms should show the coronet of the son of a daughter of a Sovereign. My own view is that he is as much entitled to it as the late Earl of Harewood, who wore it at the 1953 coronation. Thoughts?

b. Lady Sarah Chatto - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Lady_Sarah_Chatto just shows two versions of her father's arms on a lozenge. Is she entitled to a coat of arms similar to those of the ladies listed above?

c. Peter Phillips - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Peter_Phillips.png does not show the coronet of the son of a daughter of a Sovereign. Should it?

d. Zara Tindall - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zara_Tindall just shows versions of her father's arms on a lozenge. Is she entitled to a coat of arms similar to those of the ladies listed above?

NB that that coronet appears in the arms of

e. Alexander Mountbatten, 1st Marquess of Carisbrooke - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Alexander_Mountbatten,_1st_Marquess_of_Carisbrooke.svg (although the coronet of a Marquess appears twice in the crest).

There is no coronet in https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Princess_Helena_Victoria_of_Schleswig-Holstein or https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Princess_Marie_Louise_of_Schleswig-Holstein

I have been unable to find a Wikipedia version of the arms of George Lascelles, 7th Earl of Harewood or his brother Gerald David Lascelles.