User:Antidiskriminator/Drafts of articles/List of non resolved topics on Skanderbeg article

Reply to Kebeta
Based on the request of User:Kebeta I will try make a "List of non resolved topics on Skanderbeg article" with "3 to 5 mayor points".

I will comment the last version of the article (last time revised at 16:27, 11 October 2011)

"This article is about the Albanian hero."
"This article is about the Albanian hero." is the first sentence of the article. It is wrong and against WP:NPOV whatever meaning "Albanian hero" can have. If "Albanian hero" means:
 * 1) "born in region of Albania" then Skanderbeg was not Albanian (or it is disputed at least) because maybe he was not born in Albania but in region of Debar in Macedonia. Debar is in Macedonian region which part belongs to Republic of Albania.
 * 2) "born in country which name is Albania" then it is again wrong because state Albania did not exist when he was born
 * 3) "ethnic Albanian" then it is again incorrect because his ethnicity is disputed and information about that dispute can be found in almost every text which is written about him (except in this article)
 * 4) "Hero of Albania" then it is again incorrect because Skanderbeg is not on the list of people who were awarded with this title.
 * 5) "hero of ethnic Albanians" then it is again incorrect because Skanderbeg is considered as hero by many other people, not only Albanians
 * 6) "hero of people who live in Albania" then it is again wrong because he is considered as hero by many citizens of many other countries besides Albanian

Alternative names
Skanderbeg's alternative names are written on three languages: Albanian, Latin and Turkish. Even in the name section there is text only about Albanian version of his first name (Gjergj) which appeared centuries after his name on Serbian language is attested in the first documents written and signed by Skanderbeg. This issue remained unresolved although it was discussed at this section of the talk page. It is against NPOV to write his alternative name on Albanian, Latin and Turkish and not on Greek or Serbian because:
 * 1) Serbian was his mother language
 * 2) he himself wrote/spoke Serbian language
 * 3) he was probably Serb or half Serb
 * 4) the earliest written literature work about him is on Serbian
 * 5) the earliest authentic primary documents written by him are written on Serbian (the first and second Act of Hilandar)

POV issues

 * 1) Ethnicity. Lack of informations in the article about disputed ethnic origin or ethnicity of Skanderbeg, his mother and/or father and people that fought for Skanderbeg and against Skanderbeg (numerous users citing numerous reliable and credible sources)
 * 2) Lack of informations in the article about disputed Slavic connection based on his name and names of members of his family (numerous users citing numerous reliable and credible sources)
 * 3) Name of territory that he governed, and basically toponyms using (Epirus, Albania, part of Albania and part of Epirus, small strip of territory....) (numerous users citing numerous reliable and credible sources)
 * 4) Name on Serbian and Greek language in the lede here and here ...
 * 5) Lack of informations in the article about disputed religion of Skanderbeg (numerous users citing numerous reliable and credible sources)
 * 6) Lack of informations about Albanians not being resisting Ottoman Empire, but being supporters  of Ottoman Empire on the Balkan here
 * 7) Lack of informations about double headed eagle being not Albanian but originally Byzantine (numerous users)
 * 8) Lack of informations about criticism of biographies of Skanderbeg here and lack of informations based on book of Oliver Schmitt
 * 9) Not enough informations about his conflicts with other Albanian highlanders here
 * 10) Lack of informations about Skanderbeg not having wide support of all Albanians that he allegedly united, especially people from towns.here
 * 11) Lack of informations about Skanderbeg's main supporters were mountain people who were eager to loot and pillage the lowlanders here
 * 12) Not enough of informations about best ottoman forces fighting against him were Albanians converted to Turks here
 * 13) Lack of informations that he did not control all Albanians and whole territory of Albania (toponym) but directly only small strip of land here
 * 14) Lack of informations about religion playing major role in conflicts, not ethnicity or language here
 * 15) Not enough clear informations about fragile alliances with local leaders and his relatives here
 * 16) Lack of informations that his innermost circle included Chancellors, Dalmatian merchants, and members of the Catholic clergy in central and northern Albania - abbots, monks, bishops and archbishops. These were ethnically mixed : Albanian clergymen, Ragusan patricians and Slavic Dalmatian intermediaries here
 * 17) Not enough informations about ties with Serbian dynasties of Skanderbeg and his decedants here

BIAS issues

 * 1) The idea that the Ottoman compared him to Alexander the Great is disputed by numerous users
 * 2) Idea that Skanderbeg delayed Ottoman expansion is disputed here and here “this sounds like a bit of exaggeration and nationalistic. Surely Turks had quite a lot of space in Balkans to 'move around' Albania. Also they could attack from mediterranean seas. And had Turks not fight in Albania, would they go and invade West Europe during that quarter of a century?”
 * 3) Problematic existence of modern concept of ethnicity and nationality in medieval times (numerous users not citing numerous reliable and credible sources)
 * 4) Italy that was saved by Skanderbeg disputed here and here
 * 5)  glorifying language to describe the subjectwritten from an Albanian nationalist perspective  here, here...
 * 6) Term Albanian resistance is disputed here
 * 7) Disputed connection of Skanderbeg with Albanian nation (in modern sense) and state Albania here
 * 8) Interpretations and using of Skanderbeg more than 500 years after he was born, 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian), Skenderaj.... religion struggles, national consciousness, national inspiration, national unity, national freedom, national independence, national solidarity....

Various issues

 * 1) What clan his family belonged here and here
 * 2) Romanian arm wrestling here
 * 3) Was he gheg or tosk [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Skanderbeg/Archive_2#was_skanderbeg_GHEG_OR_TOSK here
 * 4) Movies about Skanderbeg to be added to external links here
 * 5) Including information about Juan Castriota here in the article
 * 6) Meaning and origin of his last (or family) name - Castrioti (numerous users citing numerous reliable and credible sources)
 * 7) Seal of Skanderbeg (numerous users citing one source, but not reliable and credible)
 * 8) Transcription of names in the article his fathers, or his family members here and here...
 * 9) Here one user complained that using title of general for Skanderbeg is not appropriate because there was no such title in Ottoman army. The user suggested Müşir.
 * 10) Map. In this section one user suggested using map based on this map in the article
 * 11) Albanian language. It was stated that all documents about Skanderbeg are either in Serbian, Latin or Greek language, and that there is no credible and reliable source that he even spoke Albanian here
 * 12) Place of birth is disputed. Numerous users citing numerous sources.
 * 13) Name of Skanderbeg. Skanderbeg is known under that name mainly because he has, after his death, become an important figure for the Albanian identity. Please compare this with an important figure for today's France, the Frankish emperor who is known as Charlemagne in modern French. The name Charlemagne is highly unhistorical for this king, who was known as Karl to his contemporaries and on his coins - on which he, just like Skanderbeg on his seal claimed to be a Roman emperor - as Carolus. Christian medieval kings were cosmopolitan - they married internationally and rarely belonged to a specific nation. User:Sponsianus here
 * 14) Skender, name that he was maybe given when he was islamized, because there is no other muslim name that he was given.here
 * 15) Improving chronology of the events and adding missing informations (many users)
 * 16) Creating separate subtitle and article about "Skanderbeg, myths and interpretations" here
 * 17) Various mistakes and missing informations here