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Second review of GA nomination of Skanderbeg article by User:DeVerm:

"When contradicting information is available from different, but all reputable, sources, you have a controversy. Wikipedia guidelines then state that all those views must be put into the article, each with a weight that relates to the number of sources and/or their credibility."

A list of Albanians fighting for Ottoman Empire in period 1402—1479
Copied from the the article Skanderbeg's Italian expedition: Constant news of Ottoman campaigns against Bosnia and Morea but not against Albania seemed to suggest that Mehmed II had been considering an armistice with Skanderbeg. The latter took advantage of this lull in the fighting by preparing for his voyage to Italy and by securing his northern frontiers from a possible attack by Skanderbeg's elusive ally, Lekë Dukagjini, who had been trying to expand his realm by reaching an agreement with the Turks. In order to curb his ambitions, Skanderbeg seized Shat Fortress and presented it as a gift to Venice. Skanderbeg then established an alliance with Venice against Dukagjini, while Dukagjni was strengthening his Turkish alliance. The new pope issued a bull against Dukagjini, giving him fifteen days to break his alliance with the Ottomans and to reconcile with Skanderbeg, or be subject to interdiction; Dukagjini conceded and chose the former option. He then reestablished his alliance with Skanderbeg and Venice and accepted all of its losses.
 * Davud Pasha
 * Hamza Kastrioti
 * Ballaban Badera
 * Moisi Arianit Golemi in period 1454-1456
 * Leke Dukagjini
 * Gedik Ahmet Pasha

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A list of non-Albanians fighting with Skanderbeg against the Ottoman Empire

 * Giosafat Barbaro

Controversies
The works about Skanderbeg are subjected to controversial interpretations connected with:
 * 1) the ethnicity of Skanderbeg and population in the medieval Albania and the ethnicity of members of the armies fighting for Skanderbeg and against him
 * 2) Albanisation of Skanderbeg

The ethnicity of Skanderbeg and men that fought for him and against him
Skanderbeg and his men were in some sources referred to as Epirotes and in some other as Albanians, depending on the name of the geographical region used — (Epirus or Albania). Ethnically, Skanderbeg's Albanian ethnicity is disputed by claims that he was of Serbian, Greek or mixed ethnicity.

The men that fought for Skanderbeg were of different ethnic groups, not only because German, French or Italian soldiers were sometimes engaged to fight for him, but because both Albanians and Slavs lived in the part of Albania under Skanderbeg's control and fought for him. In most cases they were not opposed by the foreign invaders, but by local forces loyal to the new empire and consisted of the local Albanians, Slavs and Vlachs willing to fight against the members of their own ethnic groups.

The Albanisation of Skanderbeg
Although Skanderbeg has already been used in the construction of the Albanian national code, especially in communities of Arbėresh, it was only after last years of the 19th century and the publishing of the work of Naim Frasheri "Istori'e Skenderbeut" in 1898, when his figure assumed a new dimension. Albanian nationalists needed an episode from medieval history for centre of Albanian nationalistic mythology and they chose Skanderbeg, in the absence of medieval kingdom or empire. The figure of Skanderbeg was subjected to the Albanisation and he was displayed as a national hero. The other books and periodicals published later also began to more and more consider Skanderbeg as the national hero. The nationalist writers subjected Skanderbeg to the laboratory which transformed the history into myth. Transformation of Skanderbeg into national symbol served both national cohesion and as an argument for Albania's cultural affinity to Europe because the national narrative of Skanderbeg symbolized the sacrifice of the Albanians in "defending Europe from Asiatic hordes".

Naim Frasheri was the biggest inspiration and guiding lights for most Albanian poets and intellectuals.

Historical victimisation
Besides cultural affinity to Europe, Europe is in Albania often conceived as threatening and untrustworthy partly because of the syndrome of historical victimisation created in 19th century and reinforced in 1913 when major part of territory inhabited with Albanians was divided between neighbouring Balkan states. Such nationalistic use of history which projects a vision of people as permanent victims creates an obstacle to a critical confrontation with the past.

Before 1896, an image of Skanderbeg hero from Greek Orthodoxy was largely developed in the southern areas than in nearby regions of Montenegro, in 1897 again, epic poems in which he was famous as a warrior slave were more more broadcoast. Even if he was also already appeared in the construction of an Albanian national passes (especially Arbėresh) in the last years of the nineteenth century, his face assumed an nuovelle dimension. The publication in 1898 of History of Skanderbeg, an epic poem composed by Naim Frasheri, it helped LOTS. But other books and periodicals also began focusing on who was more widely regarded as the "national hero". Faik Konica collect materials on Skanderbeg, to feed the pages of Albania.

that is listed in sources section of the article (p.101):

Here is description of this text, written by Marin Barleti, of people that lived in Dibra and fought for Skanderbeg.

Here is link to "Mehmed the Conqueror and His Time", by Franz Babinger:

"The military commanders, leaders and simple soldiers, i.e. the whole army fighting against Scanderbeg, consisted of local Albanians, Bulgarians, Serbs and Vlachs. There were also Turkish Muslims in the Ottoman forces who owned timar lands. On the whole, it is evident that the rebels were not opposed by “foreign” invaders, but by local forces loyal to the new empire who were willing to fight members of their own ethnic groups longing for pre-Ottoman times. "Robert Elsie (absolutely non-antialbanian) web site with Oliver Schmitt book

Skanderbeg attacked Venetian towns Bar and Ulcinj together with Serb princes Đurađ Branković, Stefan Crnojević.

Skanderbeg's ethnicity
One of the more remarkable was the Albanisation the figure of Skanderbeg and highlighted as a national hero. In general, Skanderbeg became the symbol of glory and sovereignty past - and future - of the Albanian nation. Apart from the question of origins, structures of the Albanian Identitet natonale was appealing still very succinct way the manufacture of a Pantheon - in particular the highlighting of Skanderbeg.

Before 1896, an image of Skanderbeg hero from Greek Orthodoxy was largely developed in the southern areas than in nearby regions of Montenegro, in 1897 again, epic poems in which he was famous as a warrior slave were more more broadcoast. Even if he was also already appeared in the construction of an Albanian national passes (especially Arbėresh) in the last years of the nineteenth century, his face assumed an nuovelle dimension. The publication in 1898 of History of Skanderbeg, an epic poem composed by Naim Frasheri, it helped LOTS. But other books and periodicals also began focusing on who was more widely regarded as the "national hero". Faik Konica collect materials on Skanderbeg, to feed the pages of Albania.

If Skanderbeg was the most important figure around which crystallized Albanian nationalism, it was not the only one. The manufacture of the "National Pantheon", which started well before 1896 around the characters like Alexander the Great, Pyrrhus, the Bushatli and Ali Pasha of Tepelene, or around the first albania, such Pashko Vasa, Jani Vreto Dora d'Istria, Konstantin Kristoforidhi and Demetrio Camarda, enriched further. In particular, of other Albanians were incorporated into this pantheon, and primarily the brothers Frasheri - Abdyl ...

At the dawn of the twentieth century, as the figure of Skanderbeg Albanian national hero also took another dimension through the appearance of pretenders to the throne who claimed his descent.

Controversial glorifying of Skanderbeg
Albanian authors glorify Skanderbeg as mythical defender of his people and Christianity against Ottoman Empire. Figure of Skanderbeg was used both by nationalists during Albanian National Awakening and communists, during regime of Enver Hohxa. In order to make Skanderbeg, who was the historical figure, relevant for Albanians, the communists continued to accent trough scholarship in Albania, the concept of the Albanian nation as an everlasting, unchanging entity.

There is also different perspective of Skanderbeg being tragical figure that had waged a lost battle and plunged his Albanian homeland to disaster.

Controversies (section that was inserted into the text of the Skanderbeg article)
Skanderbeg and his men were in some sources referred to as Epirotes and in some other as Albanians, depending on the name of the geographical region used — (Epirus or Albania). Ethnically, Skanderbeg's Albanian ethnicity is disputed by claims that he was of Serbian, Greek or mixed ethnicity.

The men that fought for Skanderbeg were of different ethnic groups, not only because German, French or Italian soldiers were sometimes engaged to fight for him, but because both Albanians and Slavs lived in the part of Albania under Skanderbeg's control and fought for him. In most cases they were not opposed by the foreign invaders, but by local forces loyal to the new empire and consisted of the local Albanians, Slavs and Vlachs willing to fight against the members of their own ethnic groups.

Although Skanderbeg has already been used in the construction of the Albanian national code, especially in communities of Arbėresh, it was only after last years of the 19th century and the publishing of the work of Naim Frasheri "Istori'e Skenderbeut" in 1898, when his figure assumed a new dimension. Albanian nationalists needed an episode from medieval history for centre of Albanian nationalistic mythology and they chose Skanderbeg, in the absence of medieval kingdom or empire. The figure of Skanderbeg was subjected to the Albanisation and he was displayed as a national hero. The other books and periodicals published later also began to more and more consider Skanderbeg as the national hero. The nationalist writers subjected Skanderbeg to the laboratory which transformed the history into myth. Transformation of Skanderbeg into national symbol served both national cohesion and as an argument for Albania's cultural affinity to Europe because the national narrative of Skanderbeg symbolized the sacrifice of the Albanians in "defending Europe from Asiatic hordes".

Other
Skanderbeg bat um eine Venezianische Schutzherrshaft und bot dafür 6000 Dukaten, die er bisher als Vasall dem Sultan gezahlt hatte.

Weiter stellte er sich mit seiner Gefolgschaft der Signoria zur Verfügung und drangte auf den raschen Wiederaufbau der Festung Skutari.

Dies war nichts anderes als eine versteckte Kapitulation Skanderbegs, der innerhalb von wenigen Monaten seinen wichtigsten Verbundeten, Johann Hunyadi, und seine wichtigste Festung, Svetigrad, verloren hatte und einen Angriff des sultans auf Kruja befürchtete.