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The term postmodern neo-Marxism was popularized by Jordan Peterson, who mentions the concept frequently during talks and interviews. He gives a brief summary of the concept in a video hosted by PragerU.

Some authors claim that Peterson often misuses postmodernism as a stand-in for the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. .

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https://dora.dmu.ac.uk/handle/2086/19567 Jordan Peterson is a central figure in the so-called ‘culture wars’. Lumping together 'postmodern neo-Marxists', feminists, queer theorists and transgender rights activists as the ‘social justice warrior' blob he stands against,

https://johnganz.substack.com/p/were-all-postmodern-neo-marxists

https://www.arcdigital.media/p/whats-in-a-name Jordan Peterson called it “postmodern neo-Marxism,” which was mocked for being an apparent contradiction in terms (I don’t myself think it’s an oxymoron). The term “postmodernism” is attacked for being unclear. When one simply calls it “social justice,” one hears the response that social justice is good by definition. And so on. You get the idea. There’s a concept or issue needing a name,

https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/philosophy/postmodernism-definition-and-critique-with-a-few-comments-on-its-relationship-with-marxism/ So: postmodernism, by its nature (at least with regard to skepticism) cannot ally itself with Marxism. But it does, practically. The dominance of postmodern Marxist rhetoric in the academy (which is a matter of fact, as laid out by the Heterodox Academy, among other sources) attests to that. The fact that such an alliance is illogical cannot be laid at my feet, just because I point out that the alliance exists. I agree that it’s illogical. That doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/social-sciences/neo-marxism 2009 page 239 Humanistic geography is the conventional title of a loosely organized school of thought that rose to prominence after 1970, flourished for nearly two decades, and then combined with neo-Marxism and postmodernism to form the ‘new cultural geography’.

https://jacobinmag.com/2020/04/jordan-peterson-capitalism-postmodernism-ideology The only real link between Marxism and the wide array of social movements and schools of thought that Peterson associates with “postmodern neo-Marxism” is that they all feature complaints about the existence of various forms of oppression.

https://www.waxmann.com/waxmann-buecher/?tx_p2waxmann_pi2%5Bbuch%5D=BUC123120&tx_p2waxmann_pi2%5Baction%5D=show&tx_p2waxmann_pi2%5Bcontroller%5D=Buch&cHash=28a35862c528dfedec0dfb989c9d1c5c 2012 This book examines Neo-Marxist, Postmodern, Postcolonial and Multicultural pedagogies. It highlights the promise that these pedagogies hold for the possibility of a more human and just education.

https://ontheaside.com/culture/jordan-peterson-has-no-idea-what-hes-talking-about/ Shuja Haider takes aim at the psychologist’s oft-repeated pejorative of his opponents as “postmodern neo-Marxists,” and argues that the man probably doesn’t know what either of those words mean. ... It’s the foundation of classically fascist politics, and it’s gained greater currency in an age of populism and capitalist decline. Here, the system is not at fault, but those who critique it — a motley crew of conspirators that Peterson broadly refers to as “postmodern neo-Marxists”.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00131857.2021.1876669

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/is-jordan-peterson-the-stupid-mans-smart-person/ “Postmodern neo-Marxism,” on the other hand, is a conspiracy theory holding that an international cabal of Marxist academics, realizing that traditional Marxism is unlikely to triumph any time soon, is out to destroy Western civilization by undermining its cultural values with “cultural” taken out of the name so it doesn’t sound quite so similar to the literal Nazi conspiracy theory of “cultural Bolshevism.”

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/07/how-dangerous-is-jordan-b-peterson-the-rightwing-professor-who-hit-a-hornets-nest His bete noire is what he calls “postmodern neo-Marxism” or “cultural Marxism”. In a nutshell: having failed to win the economic argument, Marxists decided to infiltrate the education system and undermine western values with “vicious, untenable and anti-human ideas”, such as identity politics, that will pave the road to totalitarianism.

https://medium.com/@charlietaylor105/on-petersons-postmodern-neo-marxism-b33f6f425066 In general (and Petersons use is broad and vague) it supposedly refers to individuals who are destroying ‘western civilization’ by contradicting absolute biological truths such as gender, and in Petersons view are involved in restricting freedom of speech. Naturally due to the vague and relatively incoherent definitions outlined by Peterson, in response to criticism of his definition of ‘Postmodern Neo Marxists’ (also ‘Postmodern Neo Marxism’) Peterson has suggested some revisions and explanation to his theory: ...

https://areomagazine.com/2020/01/09/jordan-peterson-is-not-entirely-wrong-about-postmodern-neo-marxism/ Peterson’s diatribes against “postmodern neo-Marxism” may obscure the subtle differences between Marxism and postmodern philosophy, but he is not wrong in tracing a long historical arc from Marxist agitation to the postmodern epistemic skepticism that galvanizes Social Justice activism in particular, and progressive activism in general.

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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B978008044910400701X NO SOURCE

https://medium.com/discourse/postmodern-neomarxism-explained-8b07b8c3ead4 ??? These are linked philosophies, with similar formulas, and similar goals. One was economic, and the other was cultural. Postmodern Neo-Marxism is real, stop pretending it isn’t.

https://www.stephenhicks.org/2020/11/07/foucault-and-whether-postmodernism-is-neo-marxist/ “The proletariat doesn’t wage war against the ruling class because it considers such a war to be just. The proletariat makes war with the ruling class because … it wants to take power.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjaymP5GGMg ???
 * 1) 23 - Is Postmodernism Neo-Marxist? Yes, No & Sort Of.

https://university.marxist.com/en/marxism-vs-postmodernism ???

https://dialektika.org/en/2019/05/23/reading-jordan-peterson-marxism-postmodernism/ ???

https://viewpointmag.com/2018/01/23/postmodernism-not-take-place-jordan-petersons-12-rules-life/ ?

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-neo-marxism/ As for its relevance to the Theory of Critical Social Justice, it would be largely accurate to say that neo-Marxism (thus Critical Theory and “Cultural Marxism”) are something like the underlying operating system for Critical Social Justice, or at least some of its Theories, especially critical race Theory (and perhaps less queer Theory). What is (on this platform) named Critical Social Justice is, effectively, neo-Marxism that has taken up various aspects of postmodernism and poststructuralism in ways useful to its activism (praxis), especially with regard to the nature of knowledge and beliefs about how power operates in society (what Jordan Peterson identified as “postmodern neo-Marxism” and what the author together with Helen Pluckrose identified as “applied postmodernism”). (An astute reader who understands Hegelian thought might therefore recognize Critical Social Justice as a dialectical synthesis of Critical Theory and the post-Marxist, or post-Hegelian, social constructivism of postmodernism, with that synthesis going formally by the name critical constructivism.)

https://brendanmckee.medium.com/marxism-and-postmodernism-defining-some-important-terms-b55201817bd Therefore, the core issue with the term postmodern neo-Marxism is that it is an oxymoron. It is pure nonsense. After all, how can any theory belong to two mutually exclusive categories of thought? It can’t. Pure and simple.

https://thewalrus.ca/the-professor-of-piffle/ But what exactly does Peterson mean by “postmodern neo-Marxism”? In a recent series of lectures and interviews, all available on YouTube, Peterson traces this supposedly lethal strain of totalitarianism back to Jacques Derrida and Michel Foucault, two French philosophers whom he accuses of waging an “all-out assault on categories of intellectual thought.” The central claim of these postmodern thinkers, Peterson argues, is that “there are an infinite number of ways to interpret any finite set of phenomena.” As a direct result, our moral or aesthetic evaluations—our efforts to discern good from evil, beauty from ugliness, truth from falsehood—are arbitrary and therefore meaningless. The postmodernists left us in a relativistic fog from which we have yet to emerge.

https://www.academia.edu/29105650/Memento_Neomarxism_and_Postmodernism GMAIL

https://quillette.com/2018/06/13/post-postmodernism-on-the-left/ ???

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https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/complex-relationship-between-marxism-wokeness/ = Critical Theory is “neo-Marxism,” or, as it’s sometimes phrased, “Cultural Marxism,” which plainly derives from Marxism and retained much of what was core to its thought while completely modifying other aspects of it in the hopes of achieving communism. Postmodernism is a particular form of “post-Marxism,” which had given up more or less entirely on Marxism and thus everything else, though it was still a fairly significant fan of communist efforts as they played out in the 1950s and 1960s, and it was no friend to liberalism. Critical Social Justice is the intentional fusion of these two schools of thought with the goal of achieving its ideas about “Social Justice” through radical identity politics.

https://merionwest.com/2018/06/03/a-critique-of-jordan-peterson/ READ

https://jameshepokoski.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/1998-rev-2000-2002-Notes-on-Postmodernism-1.pdf 2002 = One might conceptualize these three phenomena (postmodernism, identity politics, neo-Marxism) as large, intersecting circles of disparate practices particularly attractive to the cultural left—three modes of inquiry that, however else they might differ, often find themselves to be mutually supportive in their devotion to the hermeneutics of suspicion, to transformationalist politics, and to the radical protest of (and desire to expose and/or subvert) past traditions.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/the-birth-death-and-rebirth-of-postmodernism/ = https://archive.is/vSDcp = Debates about postmodernism have returned, in both vulgar and sophisticated forms — from Jordan Peterson’s crusade against “postmodern neo-Marxism” to Bruno Latour’s defense of climate science to Rita Felski’s probing of “the limits of critique.” And the accelerating media bombardment enabled by our proliferating devices has only intensified what Jameson, all those years ago, called the “transformation of the ‘real’ into so many pseudo-events.”

https://quillette.com/2019/01/03/the-frankfurt-school-and-postmodern-philosophy/ ???

https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ795233.pdf ???

https://travismcneely.com/2020/12/07/is-critical-race-theory-rooted-in-marxism-a-response-to-recent-claims-to-the-contrary/ ???

https://againstthecurrent.org/atc107/p516/ ???

https://jordanbpeterson.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/JP-SH-TRANSCRIPT-Nedved-8-Jan-2018.pdf ???

https://newleftreview.org/issues/i176/articles/fredric-jameson-marxism-and-postmodernism ???