User:Austex/Archive

Start of Archive 7/01/2010
Page cleaned 6/25 to "assume good faith"


 * User:Tnxman307 - No problem.  Thanks for letting me know, and for the suggestions.  Sounds perfectly reasonable.      Dmartinaus (talk) 20:54, 23 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Intervening comments have been removed by user to be polite and assume good faith, and the response by Sarah has been left below in its entirety. Dmartinaus (talk) 12:53, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


 * The problem is that you're blocked and this really isn't what you should be doing during the block. The admin who told you could edit this page was just an admin responding to the unblock template and I highly doubt that he understood the full background and intended for you to be using this page in the way that you are. We really only started allowing blocked editors to edit their talk pages so that they could have the opportunity to appeal blocks, not so they could continue through the block with their problematic behaviour, only with it contained to their talk page. You were blocked for your behaviour surrounding this article and you appear to have spent the entire period since the block using this page as a staging ground for preparing what you're going to do as soon as the block expires. No offense - you seem like a thoroughly likable fellow and this isn't remotely personal - but I'm reaching the opinion that we're going to need to ban you. If you want to draft an article, please consider doing so on your computer, not on Wikipedia, but it really would be best if you complied with the AUTO and COI guidelines and simply didn't draft any articles or any arguments requesting an article at all and just left the future up to this community. Otherwise I'm going to have to turn off your ability to edit this page for the rest of the block. Since you were blocked, you've made 97 edits to this page and the only thing the block seems to have done is contain your editing to one page, but it certainly hasn't seemed to have made any impression on you or your approach to Wikipedia. And in fact, it's shed more light on this whole scenario. You've maintained that you were only here to protect your reputation from the false information in the article. Well, Wikipedia no longer has an article - it has been through AFD and DRV and the deletion has been upheld. If that was your true purpose in being here, you should be done, not here every day making dozens of edits to this page, preparing for your next step in attempting to ram an article about yourself into Wikipedia. This whole approach is something that I think would be extremely troubling to admins if a ban discussion was started. I am prepared to initiate a discussion with administrators but I'd much prefer it if we didn't have to do that since you are a named, real and living person and if you instead simply agreed to stop and went away for the rest of the period of your block. Of course, what you do when that block expires is going to be the next issue and it really would be better if you simply abandoned this mission and waited until an experienced editor completely independent, unknown and uninvolved with you, believed you to be notable and made moves to initiate a new article. I realise you are a PR specialist, but I really can't see how being on Wikipedia every day, trying to force your way in, ending up blocked as a result, is going to do anything remotely positive for you. As I've said before, I really do hope you appreciate how public this venue is and the fact Wikipedia pages are highly ranked on search engine results, so future clients, friends, family, etc will be able to see what you've been doing here and the fact that you've been on such a mission to write about yourself here, despite the very clear way we have explained the Autobiography and Conflict of Interest guidelines to you. A number of people have spent considerable time very patiently attempting to give you this information and to explain how inappropriate it is for you to be writing material about yourself, editing your own article, arguing for it, etc. Yet here we are with you spending the period of the block drafting autobiographical material and other material you're obviously intending to use to try to force us to accept another article. I can't see how you can possibly think the community is going to look favourably on any of this or how it's appropriate under the AUTO and COI rules. Please leave any decisions about future articles entirely in the hands of this community. Please take the rest of the block period off so we don't have to shut down this page. Sarah 03:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I strongly echo Sarah's comments. You would be very wise to take them to heart. --Deskana (talk) 09:29, 25 June 2010 (UTC)