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 * Very good, thanks! BD2412  T 19:57, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * I have commented in the discussion, thank you. BD2412  T 06:16, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry to bother.
Hi there, thanks for you time, I was wondering if it was possible to approve my rollback rights request please? Excutient Talk 06:13, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Rights granting is not an area in which I have been involved on this project. I'm sure there are admins more steeped in the task better able to evaluate your request. BD2412  T 06:21, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I was confused for a moment what anniversary this was, but I figured it out. BD2412  T 15:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Did you follow the link? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:49, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did, thanks. BD2412  T 18:06, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the reminder that "it's the reader ..." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

List of telemedicine service providers
I started a draft for the list of telemedicine service providers in response to your suggestion at the recent AfD discussion. Wanted to share and would welcome any feedback. Thanks --Spicypumpkin (talk) 21:37, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I would just add the date of establishment, since the articles generally provide that. BD2412  T 21:42, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, right, good suggestion and something I overlooked. Appreciate the feedback. --Spicypumpkin (talk) 20:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * And just saw you went ahead and made some of those changes, thanks! --Spicypumpkin (talk) 20:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Village_pump_(proposals)
Question,

Are Ips allowed to close RFCs? I think it is a yea but honestly, I'm a bit hesitant to just trust a close by an iP with "no questions asked". Starzoner (talk) 22:33, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've never heard of it being done. It's a bad idea for all the reasons that come to mind when you think about why it might be a bad idea. BD2412  T 22:37, 5 November 2020 (UTC)


 * My mind says,

1) lack of accountability

2) lack of credibility

3) did the person behind the ip address really give it some thought?

So, what should be done? Starzoner (talk) 23:49, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have commented to this effect after the discussion. BD2412  T 00:12, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

"Feak, Steve" listed at Redirects for discussion
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 * Thanks, I have commented there. BD2412  T 18:59, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of List of aviation accidents and incidents in fiction for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of aviation accidents and incidents in fiction is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Re: Vaccine move
WP:BOLD

There is no one COVID-19 vaccine. Only candidates. To comply with discretionary sanctions I will not dispute your decision. ViperSnake151  Talk  18:41, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome to dispute it, but the proper venue for proposing any move that might reasonably be contested is Requested moves. As for the candidate status of the vaccines, there are examples that have been reported to work to some degree. A candidate vaccine is still a vaccine, though its qualities remain to be determined. BD2412  T 19:04, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Draft: Georgina Rodriguez
I don't the rationale behind merging this article to model. It become clearly some editors including administrator doesn't want my contribution to Wikipedia but I must fulfill my promise of creating 200 articles before 2021. Draft: Georgiana Rodriguez is notable to be included on Wikipedia. I think I will stop editing the draft I'm doing for her Wikipedia page. I believe Wikipedia is a site or place for everyone to participate it. All this attacking will not hinder me from creating 200 articles unless I'm not alive. Abbas Kwarbai (talk) 22:07, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Why are there two versions of an article on the same subject? BD2412  T 22:28, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Updates?
Re: the case you were working on? Apologies, but I was temporarily distracted.  Atsme 💬 📧 13:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, I don't even remember which case I was talking about. At this point, a few are piled up. BD2412  T 18:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Murder of Samuel Paty has an RFC
Talk:Murder of Samuel Paty has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Assem Khidhr (talk) 03:32, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but this is not within my range of interest. BD2412  T 03:43, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Judges who died in office
Hi, I just had a clarification question. Does this category only include American judges or foreign judges as well? Snickers2686 (talk) 18:07, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have been including all judges, as long as they are part of some legal system (i.e., not purely religious). We may subcategorize later. BD2412  T 18:26, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Should it include judges who died while serving in senior status, since such judges can still seek full time work? 73.110.217.186 (talk) 05:50, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have intentionally not been including them. When a judge takes senior status, their seat then becomes available for the appointment of another judge to their office. Senior status itself is a bit malleable; it can refer to a judge still hearing a fairly active caseload, but just as readily to a judge who is effectively retired from doing any real judicial work. BD2412  T 06:00, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks again, and happy editing! KylieTastic (talk) 17:10, 29 November 2020 (UTC)


 * thanks, that's beautiful work. BD2412  T 18:09, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Deleted page
Hi,you just deleted an article Pavel Stankevych. I am not agree with deletion.Did you check all the links?I am sure he meets criteria on Wikipedia. Please ckeck it again. Behappy 29 (talk) 17:45, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted because there was a clear consensus for this outcome in the discussion at Articles for deletion/Pavel Stankevych. If you disagree with this determination, please raise the issue at Deletion review. BD2412  T 18:11, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Gedhun Choekyi Nyima
Hey, BD, there was a request not to close at that talk, due to a party being currently blocked. It's a close that needs to consider the other article, too. —valereee (talk) 02:57, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm aware of the request not to close. We are not going to have an already long extended move discussion lingering for weeks while one editor rides out a block. There is absence of consensus in the discussion, and the proposal can be made again when everyone is able to participate. BD2412  T 03:04, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

WQ CU
Sorry for posting here re WQ but it is easier for me. Are there any local CUs for the WQ project? If not, I am unsure how to deal with this, which seems like a duck to me. (The section titled Revertings.) - Sitush (talk) 06:35, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately we don't have any Checkusers. WMF policy requires a project to amass at least 25 votes for someone to become a CU, and it's rare to have a Wikiquote process top even a dozen participants. CU issues on Wikiquote are therefore directed to WMF Stewards. BD2412  T 06:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Reporting this apparent duck is going to be a nightmare on mobile! - Sitush (talk) 06:50, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Kalki is just very eccentric and very wordy. He is constantly insisting that he's very busy and won't be around for weeks on end, but then he'll get into a dispute where he'll write pages of grievances. He did have a fairly substantial sockpuppetry issue over ten years ago, but mostly he was using socks to dispense random acts of kindness. I would be surprised if he was doing that again at this juncture (although it is hardly inconceivable). BD2412  T 07:02, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it is not Kalki whom I think is socking but rather Mina muka in that thread - a sock of the recently locked Vilho-Veli, who in turn is a sock of Luke Jedi Skywalker and various other accounts. I have left a note on meta at the talk page of Tks4fish. I really need to get back on to a proper screen and keyboard because this is v awkward for me, sorry. - Sitush (talk) 07:35, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

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 * Not sure why that one was randomly submitted only to be accepted and tagged *sigh* - I have some more sources, and I'll improve when I get time. Pretty sure he was an Attorney general and also a representative. Nah just stood for. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 09:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Still worth reporting in the article. Thanks for the note! BD2412  T 17:02, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've finished what I intended to do and it's more the standard I was working towards before it got submitted. Too often minimal stubs don't do justice to the people they are about. I'll keep poking at these when I get time. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 22:27, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Beyoncé Talk
Hi! I pinged you three days ago on the Beyoncé talk page regarding a dispute involving one editor, isento. That editor, according to me and Bgkc4444, is being belligerent in their tone, and they've now opened an RfC when one was opened just three months ago in regards to the lead of the article. If there were one more RfC, it should for now only pertain to the infobox. Some editors may oppose to "songwriter" being in the lead but not the infobox. The way the question is formulated, it could lead editors to vote "No" for the infobox just because they'd vote "No" for the lead.

Update: isento is now being even more belligerent, editing my own edits and attack me in edit summaries. Is it okay for an editor to alter my own edit this way? Israell (talk) 21:04, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have noted that this is improper on their user talk page. BD2412  T 02:33, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi! Thank you for helping Israell with this. The user in question (Isento) is also now calling me a "liar" on the Talk:Beyoncé page and writing to me sarcastically saying, and I quote: "I am overcome with immense guilt and profusely apologize for my abhorrent behavior. I should be punished. Perhaps a spanking is in order?" Isento has previously harrassed me over discussions on Beyonce's article, such as when he wrote on my talk page: "Don't ping me with your pseudoliberal horsehit, little girl. Do you know of any -ism I can throw at you for smattering your hypocritical, self-righteous condescension with fake manners and exclamation points?" I warned him about his incivility many times, and an administrator also gave him a final warning for a block regarding his incivility towards me. Is there anything I can do to make him stop? Thanks so much. Bgkc4444 (talk) 16:25, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This sounds ripe to take to WP:ANI. BD2412  T 16:38, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Great, thank you! Bgkc4444 (talk) 16:39, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Can this article be deleted?
Obvious advertising, but it has been sitting in the CSD queue for hours. Addictive Eaters Anonymous 4thfile4thrank (talk) 02:26, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It does appear to have at least one valid source, so it may be fixable, rather than a speedy case. BD2412  T 02:32, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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Best approach for forks of deleted articles
Hey there, hoping for your opinion here, if you don't mind. Kalakar Award for Best Actress and Kalakar Award for Best Actor are content forks of Kalakar Awards, which you deleted as the result of Articles for deletion/Kalakar Awards. Do you think this a speedy deletion situation under G8, "Pages dependent on a non-existent or deleted page"? That's what it feels like to me, but I like to be cautious in areas of deletion and the guidelines don't specifically mention content forks. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I would call this G4, Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion. The Best Actor/Best Actress awards were part of the content that was deleted in the AfD. BD2412  T 00:54, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * The parent article was deleted in August 2020 after its August 2020 AFD. Those child articles were created in 2018. Am I misinterpreting what you mean? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I hadn't realized the forks were that old - I though they were being raised here as a new issue. The deleted article had listed Best Actress and Best Actor winners, which I would take as consensus to delete articles centered on that material from Wikipedia wherever they are found. BD2412  T 04:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks again, and happy editing! KylieTastic (talk) 18:50, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Great. I think we can be done with Kansas before the end of the year, at least. BD2412  T 18:54, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Hopefully :) KylieTastic (talk) 19:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

D&D drafts
In case you find the time and interest to take any of these on, I may or may not have mentioned it to you before but I started a brief list of deleted/redirected D&D topics which may have potential at WikiProject Dungeons & Dragons/Where. :) BOZ (talk) 02:05, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I have an eye on them, thanks. BD2412  T 18:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Awesome, thanks. :) BOZ (talk) 21:16, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Risto
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Babe_kebab - blatant Risto sock again Sitush (talk) 08:10, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * What makes you think this account making gnoming improvements is a "blatant Risto sock"? BD2412  T 18:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Beans. I am not spilling them on wiki but if you haven't spotted the pattern yet, you will nonetheless discover that I am right in due course. They have a couple of tells, aside from adding the dreaded wikiquote template. Took me about five minutes to work out the tell and I haven't been wrong since + know someone else has figured it out, too. - Sitush (talk) 19:04, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It is a blatant sockpuppet of Risto hot sir. The username is even a palindrome. I've requested a lock. Vermont (talk) 19:11, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . We crossed msgs. I had just emailed Marcus Aurelio requesting a lock but it seems you got there first. I am pleased there are now at least three if us who can see the obvious :) - Sitush (talk) 19:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Well
I see you're staying busy.  Atsme 💬 📧 19:37, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Trying to. Of course, that's a matter of perspective. BD2412  T 19:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Henry John Temple, 3rd Viscount Palmerston
Hi there. Can you please reopen the discussion per WP:RMRELIST? The RM was not publicised widely per WP:Discussion notices and the relevant WikiProject WP:UKPOLITICS had not been consulted. Thanks, &#8209;&#8209;Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 12:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I will not. The discussion was already relisted once and had been open for two full weeks. Anyone could have notified those WikiProjects at any time during this period. There is no requirement that proposed moves be publicized beyond their appearance at WP:RM, but a clearly deadlocked discussion should not be reopened merely because no one thought to do that during its extended pendency. I would suggest trying again in 2021. BD2412  T 15:59, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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RSN / RfC: Sherdog.com Closure Mess
Hello, an uninvolved editor named Buidhe closed Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_318 some time ago with the consensus for option 2 but somehow he used the explanation for option 3 in this |diff. That caused some confusion and then some editors in favour of option 1 complained about it here at User_talk:Buidhe. Then Buidhe changed his closure 2 weeks later in this |diff, again, and disregarded votes. He gave the explanation for why he changed the closure and disregarded votes 2 weeks later here at the complaint section User_talk:Buidhe again. Apperantly he thought 5 options were confusing for editors who voted in the RfC and other editors perhaps voted for wrong options without knowing. So he didn't come to any straightforward conclusion and in the end the closure has become a mess that didn't close anything or reflect the consensus outcome of the RfC (or anything at all for one option or the other) although it was a pretty easy and short one with a rather clear rough consensus.

You closed the RfC on Mail on Sunday without any problem so it would be far better if an experienced administrator like you closed the RfC once and for all, and erase this mess the closing editor caused because it affects a lot of articles in the Wiki and cause edit wars that rely on that RfC. Thanks in advance.88.241.82.114 (talk) 11:53, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the outcome is right, even if the process of getting there was somewhat sloppy. BD2412  T 21:25, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Clark Allen Smith has been accepted
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 * Perfect. BD2412  T 20:20, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Presidential elections state popular vote
Regarding the articles showing the historical results by state, some of the states had a popular vote prior to 1824, but they don't seem to be listed in the articles.73.110.217.186 (talk) 20:37, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * If that information is missing for a state, it would be fine to add. BD2412  T 21:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
 * This chart shows which states used popular vote at those times.73.110.217.186 (talk) 16:22, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Turkish military forces in Cyprus
Where was there any consensus? There was significant opposition to the move by a Sysop and a respected editor in the area. Also if you read the arguments, the google hits and other and the history about how the so-called Turkish peace forces came to Cyprus... Turkish military forces arrived in Cyprus over the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. Turkey is not really known for supporting peace in their neighborhood, see Greek–Turkish relations Iraq–Turkey relations, Syria–Turkey relations, Armenia–Turkey relations or Turkish involvement in the Syrian civil war then the recent Turkish involvement in the Nagorno Karabakh war was also not really peaceful, with Erdogan praising Enver Pasha, one of the three main perpetrators of the Armenian Genocide and Nuri Killigil a prominent Nazi collaborator of Turkey. I thought that was a clear case. Could you elaborate on your reasoning? Thank you.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 07:36, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * You have not specified the discussion to which your comments relate. None of the links you have provided are for a discussion for which I assessed consensus. In any case, with respect to the discussion at Talk:Cyprus Turkish Peace Force Command, it was clearly articulated in the discussion that there are multiple entities that could be described as "Turkish military forces in Northern Cyprus", a situation that always yields potential confusion. BD2412  T 15:54, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

US Congressional legislation
Hi there. Thanks for your feedback on my PROD for An act to affirm the policy of the United States regarding Internet governance. I found a bunch of articles on Category:Proposed legislation of the 113th United States Congress and started handling them on a case-by-case basis, but it's becoming clear to me that my approach was too unwieldy, and we'll need a consensus that applies to the group of articles as a whole. I'll de-PROD the other articles I found and raise my concerns at Articles for deletion/H.R. 301 (113th Congress). Let me know if you have other suggestions. Thanks! Edge3 (talk) 16:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I think some good ideas are developing in the deletion discussion. BD2412  T 17:29, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Hey, I noticed that ORES suggests this could be B or GA level! To me it does not seem that different form the ones it rated as C. Do you think this could be a B, or even worth pushing for a GA nom? Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 13:25, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
 * My focus has been on getting the list done first, with an eye to later going back and bringing some of the articles up to higher levels of quality. The first subject that I have my eye on for a GA run is actually Charles Erasmus Fenner, who led a rather illustrious life. BD2412  T 17:45, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

State senates
Hi BD2412. Earlier today I noticed a string of edits (example: ) on my watchlist, in which you replaced the term US state senate with United States state senate per request. I'm curious as to why this replacement would be important - do you recall where this request was made? Thanks! Airbornemihir (talk) 12:41, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Off the top of my head I don't. Someone initially made that edit to one of the articles with a note that the term should be spelled out in the header, and I took that as a request for the rest of them. BD2412  T 16:41, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Charles Burleigh Graves has been accepted
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 * Happy holidays to you too, my friend. BD2412  T 17:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

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I wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! Starzoner (talk) 17:44, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

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request for userspace restoration of Trump orb
Hi BD2412. May I please have the article version of Trump orb restored to my userspace? (It currently exists, but as a mere redirect.) It was deleted by you per Articles for deletion/Trump orb (2nd nomination). I just need to look at the refs and such. Thanks and Merry Christmas! Herostratus (talk) 14:42, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ - it is now at User:Herostratus/Trump orb. Cheers! BD2412  T 15:31, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Herostratus (talk) 23:08, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
Our paths don't seem to have crossed much this last year; but here is a bowl of crystallised oranges for you. Narky Blert (talk) 04:34, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Well that is definitely Christmas cooking. BD2412  T 04:47, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Excellent work, thanks. BD2412  T 21:28, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

AfD comments
Hi, thank you for your comments on Articles for deletion/Farewell (Rihanna song). Just wondering if you could also comment on Articles for deletion/Red Hot Kinda Love, an AfD that has yet to reach a consensus. Many thanks, and I hope you have a happy new year, HĐ (talk) 15:24, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Tut Tut Child redirect
Instead of deleting the redirect as per its target's AfD, would it instead be plausible to redirect the page to List of Monstercat artists instead as a R to list entry, considering the artist is mentioned with source there? Jalen Folf  (talk)  01:57, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable enough. BD2412  T 02:01, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * We really might finish these this year! BD2412  T 19:56, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a bit of a grand goal 6 in 2.5 days... and that one took a long time. I think a better goal is to finish all of the supreme justices by the end of next year. KylieTastic (talk) 20:06, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * lol - scrap that idea I've just looked and it's still over 1.1K left! I think 3 a day is a tad too much to hope for. KylieTastic (talk) 20:07, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I meant Kansas, but yes, finishing the entire project this year is a bit of a stretch. BD2412  T 20:38, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: John S. McDonald has been accepted
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"Sikes, Benjamin" listed at Redirects for discussion
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I wish you a prosperous 2021! Starzoner (talk) 15:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I was one of the chiselers! BD2412  T 15:44, 31 December 2020 (UTC)