User:Bakasuprman/Archive13

Puranas
Hi, thanks for the invite. I do have a question with might be up your alley. The puranas pages have a box with a link to the main article for the puranas and to the articles for the 18 mahapuranas. I'm not a Hindu, so I'm not qualified to judge, but my reading indicates there is dispute as to whether the Siva purana or (I think) the Vayu purana is one of the mahapuranas. Is there a way to add the Siva purana to the box?

P.N. Oak
Thanks for the message on my talk page. I've responded there. If you don't mind we can keep the discussion there (but please don't directly reply to what Zora says--my talk page is obviously for leaving message for me, not others). I'll see if I can help out. ==  Taxico  00:16, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

hi:रमेश लाल
I know that you specialise in creating articles about Pakistani Hindus. This is another one about Ramesh Lal! GizzaChat  &#169; 01:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Hoysala Empire
Thanks for your support of the article.Dineshkannambadi 02:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Sheikh Abdulla
You Wrote on my page:


 * Dude theres no need for the long list. I am well aware abdullah is an oppressor of Kashmiri Hindus. You may wish to get in contact with and, they are Kashmiri Pandits as well. Baka  man  03:35, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Well I am just trying to link the article to other articles on Kashmir, I am a Indian if that what you mean.

Please dont revert the see also list to other Kashmir related articles as Mr Sheikh Abdulla seems to have been an important chapter in Kashmir

Thankyou

Atulsnischal 03:40, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!
In Him was life, and that life was the Light of men. John 1:4 KJV Dear , Love came to a stable on that very special night to bring us out of darkness into His glorious light. May Jesus touch your life with gladness and warm your heart with love as we celebrate His birth. I hope you have a Blessed Christmas, AnupamTalk 06:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Wish u merry christmas. Hope u have a wonderful christmas this year. -- Amartyabag   (Talk)  05:04, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I hope you had a good one and are looking forward to the new year! With regards, AnupamTalk 06:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy happy joy joy
Thanks for the Barnstar, dude. - Aditya Kabir 14:15, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

about User:Visviva/Test
On my talk page you asked for Bishnupriya Manipuri language to put in indian script box at: User:Visviva/Test, I did not edit, but I give you the function for bpy:

add to the Function section:

For the Language arguments section:

Thanks for your information. Usingha 01:43, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
 * bishnupriya manipuri and bishnupriya_manipuri_rom

unacceptable comments
Bakaman,I saw some of the conversations between you and Unre4L and it seems you continue those silly "textbook" comments.Please stop.No one is stopping you from disagreeing with mine or his comments,but this "textbook" non-sense is simply offensive,unacceptable,provokitive and completely unecessary.It has to stop or I'll have to report this.As I said,I don't go on giving you lectures on Hindu fanaticism or persicution of Muslims by Hindus.So don't to it to us.Mixing religion into arguemnts is not a good idea,off-topic and can trigger uncecessary fights.

Please stop,and let's try to be civil to each other for once.

Before leaving,I'd like to wish you a merry Christmas and a Happy new year.

Nadirali 04:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

O_o?--D-Boy 06:32, 24 December 2006 (UTC)


 * D-boy. Fantasy. Baka man  17:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your message. I was indisposed for a few days. I am back in action. Regards. -- P.K.Niyogi 06:38, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Wish u merry christmas. Hope u have a wonderful christmas this year. -- Amartyabag   (Talk)  05:04, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Anton Balasingham
Thousands of Tamils in London and from overseas paid their last respect to Anton Balasingham, their one time hope for peace in their home land and the LTTE’s theoretician and chief negotiator at Alexandra Palace in north London.

Image:Anton Balasingham.jpg

Balasingham’s casket was placed at the front of the Palace’s Great Hall was escorted in by an honour guard, white gloved and dressed in black suits. After a brief initial ceremony, where hundreds of Tamil activists around the world participated by placing flower petals on Balasingham’s body, followed by a long line of families with children, youth and older Tamils and distinguished personalities internationally.

While paying respects, many wept openly, others prayed and some lifted their young children so they also could place petals. Community organizations from across the world have sent representatives and they placed dozens of wreaths and bouquets alongside the casket. While one said ‘Voice of the Nation’, the title bestowed on the LTTE theoretician by the movement, another said ‘Uncle’, the title by which many LTTE cadres used to address him affectionately.

Thousands of people from far away places arrived in several coaches and flights from Switzerland, France, Canada, US, Australia, Norway and Germany were waiting outside the venue on a freezing cold day and the queue snaked back from the Great Hall.

Balasingham was cremated shortly afterwards at a private ceremony leaving the people for whom he was fighting for by his intellectual wisdom.

I have well placed the reference for the above article, please let me know where I stand.

Rajsingam 24 Dec. 2006

C.C:

Oden RaveenS Bakasuprman SiobhanHansa Wackymacs Seraphimblade


 * Hell Bakaman, thanks for your neutral edits in the above mentioned page. Thanks also for taking interest in this obscure section of WikipediaRaveenS 17:01, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

About Bishnupriya Manipuri Language
Dear Bakasuprman, Bishnupriya Manipuri is an Indo-Aryan family language and on the other hand Methei is from a Tibeto-Burman family language. So it is obvious that Bishnupriya Manipuri language is close to any Indo Aryan language including Bangla, Assamese, and Sanskrit. From long time we lived with Metheis, we have adopt some Metheis words. We use Bangla writing system, and it is why Bishnupriya Manipuri language more look like Bangla/Bengali/Assamese, but Bishnupriya Manipuri grammar is so different then Bangla. I hope I answered your question. Thanks a lot. Usingha 21:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Baka, some of your lover wished you Merry Christmas, I had to remove it.
Baka, some of your lover from Amsterdam wished you Merry Christmas, I had to remove it.

swadhyayee 15:33, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Suryanath U. Kamath (not Suryakant Kamath)
He is one of the most well known historians from Karnataka. He is currently Director of Karnataka State gazzette and Director of Raja Ram Mohan Roy historical library in Calcutta. He won the "Sahitya academy award", 1973-Humanities for his work on "History of Karnataka". Said to have an RSS background, he is also responsible for editing History text books at an advanced level in education in Karnataka. More info on him may be avaliable on this link.Dineshkannambadi 20:44, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Sukhanand Shetty
I am afraid I have not heard of him. Are there any good books of his you can quote?. I regularly have books shipped from Vedams Books (Delhi) to read from and can include one of his too.thanks.Dineshkannambadi 20:54, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

?
? swadhyayee 01:46, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Anton Balasingham
Hi, Can you do few editing on "Funeral in London" to make more NPOV.

Rajsingam 26 Dec. 2006

Did you really mean it ??
You have stated in my talk page if they were a declared Hindu group I would be pro-LTTE...were you kidding my friend ?? I mean, you will forgive them ,for all the massacres,ethnic cleansing, Suicide bombings ,if they convert into a hindu group ??? !!! --Iwazaki 17:11, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Message left
I left a message on the anon IP's talk page asking him to discuss the edit. If he continues to edit war instead, we can point out 3RR to him. I think he may be well-intentioned, since his additions though contentious, are not obvious vandalism. Lets see. Abecedare 18:15, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Fair use image in user namespace
Hello!

A fair use image has been used in this user namespace (Image:Anton Balasingham.jpg in User talk:Bakasuprman). Criterion 9 of the Fair use criteria states that "Fair use images may be used only in the article namespace. Used outside article space, they are not covered under the fair use doctrine." I have removed it on these grounds.

Sincerely, --Oden 20:06, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

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You are equally effective.
Baka, you are equally effective and I accept and go ahead with the changes even if I resent. swadhyayee 08:13, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi

I want to spend more time on some other things.

I think others will take care of.

Thanks for your help.

Rajsingam 14:27, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism in Turkey
maybe you could fix it up...--D-Boy 14:41, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

MfD nomination for your user subpage
Please note that your user subpage User:Bakasuprman/RfC has been nominated for deletion as an "attack page": Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Bakasuprman/RfC. Kimchi.sg 15:49, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Your continuing civility is a shining example to us all.
implies that I am somehow abnormal. Is this civil, in your estimation? Also, please note that I would never, never claim that all members of any religion are 'polemicists'. However, the author of "Heroic Hindu Resistance to Muslim Invaders" is certainly best described as that, in that he seeks to defend Hinduism, as he sees it, from slights. Polemicist is not a pejorative tag. Hornplease 19:21, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Samkhya
I think i can help in Samkhya and to an extent in purana, mimamsa nope :(

Philosopher4 07:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Malaysian law
Thanks. Malaysian law draws significantly on Indian law, btw, which is why you might notice frequent references to "Indian authorities" in Malaysian cases. Just another legacy of the British colonists, I suppose. :) Johnleemk | Talk 11:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, N.G. Chandavarkar, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! ++Larbot - run by User:Lar - t/c 14:34, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!
Hey... I was gone for about a month on vacation but now I am back in the states and ready to go. Happy holidays! Antorjal 23:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Manual of Style (Indic-related articles)
I'd like to incorporate Template:Infobox Indic names into th manual of style like the Manual of Style (Korea-related articles).--D-Boy 09:04, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Actors by Religion - welcome at Centiare
Baka, I saw how the Actors By Religion category didn't get much support. I'd like to point you to a wiki domain that would not only welcome such a project, but you get to keep the Google AdSense revenue your Directory pages might generate. Read all about it right here, then go visit Centiare. --JossBuckle Swami 14:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

DYK update
Hi. Thanks for the message on the 26th regarding DYK. Sorry I couldn't update it. I am a bit busy with real life these days and am not able to devote much time to wikipedia. Hopefully this situation will last only for a few more days. - Aksi_great (talk) 19:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

100 milestone
Hey! Great to know! But as Bhadaniji would have put it, the true asset is the editor himself. I'm sure your contributions to the Project are more than countable! Keep up the good work.--thunderboltz(Deepu) 20:44, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

DYK Updated
Thanks, Baka. =)  Nish kid 64  21:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

National Democratic Front (India)
Thanks for the message. (I've copied it to the article's talk page too.) My edit about the 2002 deaths cited what was said in the Frontline magazine article on the Justice Thomas P. Joseph Commission: I think your changes are about the other deaths in 2003. Have you got a published source that contradicts my version of 2002 events? --Mereda 21:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC))

Hi
Thanks for your message. I think Pakistan studies is an important part of the curriculum that is helping educate the bright minds of Pakistan. It explains a lot of informative contributions we get from some editors. Pakistan studies certainly deserves an article on wikipedia. deeptrivia (talk) 08:41, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I have study it but i think it tells more one side story on it.

Khalidkhoso 04:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination for Constitution of Latvia was successful
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  02:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Rajkumar Kanagasingam
Hi,

I kindly request here Jimmy Wales, Administrators and other senior editors to verify the good faith of the User:Nv8200p for placing AfD tag than "This article needs expansion" just two days after my controversial discussion for my community in the discussion page of Anton Balasingham. Rajsingam 11:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Oden RaveenS Bakasuprman SiobhanHansa Wackymacs Seraphimblade

References (off-line media archives) on Rajkumar Kanagasingam
Oden RaveenS Bakasuprman SiobhanHansa Wackymacs Seraphimblade Rajsingam 16:25, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Honor
I would be honored if you reviewed me on my editor review, found here. Any sort of feedback is welcome. Thanks!  S h a r k f a c e  2 1 7  04:01, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: red links
Thanks! Johnleemk | Talk 03:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Portal:India's DYKs
Hi,

Good additions. Just remember that new DYKs are added to top (not bottom), and archiving is done from bottom. Regards, — Ambuj Saxena (☎) 18:29, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

deletia from Excommunication
hi, i dunno who is right, but the material that you deleted from Excommunication was originally from IP User:202.68.145.230 which is registered to the Indian Institute of Technology Bombay. the previous sentence that you left undeleted came from the same edit. i dunno who is right, but it would be appreciated by myself and others if you used the edit summary and say, in a sentence, what the justification for a substantive edit is. if you think the deletia is untrue or POV, please say so in the edit summary. this is important, particularly for an oft contentious article such as this one. r b-j 00:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Umm I dont live anywhere near India and have never edited Excommunication either. Baka man  00:57, 3 January 2007 (UTC)


 * this is the diff. i see now that it is not a deletion, but a new header.  if this was not you, then someone got your password.  better change it. r b-j 01:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * (please answer here as per talk page protocol.)

Your DYK nomination for Malta Summit was successful
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  03:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your support
Thank you for your support in the RfA on my behalf. It is an honor to have received your expression of confidence. To be chosen as an administrator requires a high level of confidence by a broad section of the community. Although I received a great deal of support, at this time I do not hold the level of confidence required, and the RfA did not pass. It is my wish that I will continue to deserve your confidence. Sincerely, --BostonMA talk 18:55, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

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Your DYK nomination for Jaya Bharata Jananiya Tanujate was successful
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  00:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Indian Diaspora - New Zealand
Hi,

In response to your query about what New Zealanders of Indian/Pakistani etc origin are commonly called, I think the most common one would be 'New Zealand Indians', even though that makes them sound a bit like they are the native population of New Zealand (like American Indians). It also doesn't acknowledge that many so-called 'Indians' actually originate from Pakistan, Bangladesh etc. This is a common New Zealandism; few New Zealanders would realise that 'Indian' is not necessarily a catch all term. On a side note, the term 'Asian' is almost never used in New Zealand to refer to Indians, and many New Zealanders would probably be suprised to learn that India is part of Asia. The term 'Asian' is used pretty much exclusively to describe East Asians, especially Chinese.

If you don't already know about it, this site should be useful to you. The sports section on the 5th page uses the term 'New Zealand Indian' if you want a reference. --Helenalex 00:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

thanks
thanks a lot for you tip. I will work on that Preetikapoor0 02:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject
Can you please stop removing the project tag from Talk:Pāṇini. There's no harm in having it there, it's just another project hoping to help on the article. It's just adding to tensions and not helping the article to keep removing it. Thanks - Taxman Talk 16:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Your DYK nomination for Powelliphanta Sp.Augustus was successful
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  21:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

WT:HNB
GizzaChat  &#169; 00:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Times like these when Hkelkar would've been useful.  Noble eagle  [TALK] [C] 03:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Shilpa Shetty
Hi there, why did you remove the information about Romanov Vodka and Limca modelling from Shilpa Shetty, and class all your edits as minor when they were major? There is nothing in WP policies that prevents a subject's article from mentioning their endorsements/career steps. Ekantik talk 03:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much, apologies for any misunderstanding. To be honest I don't really care about the issue of her caste, remove or re-add that as you please as I don't think it's very important. On the other hand if her community (Bunt) is notable enough to merit it's own WP article then I agree with your opinion that it should be included. Ekantik talk 04:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

DYK nomination
Thanks for you nomination of Jaya Bharata Jananiya Tanujate. -- Naveen  (talk) 04:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Collaboration
Hi. You voted for Sita Ram Goel, this week's Hinduism Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. --Bondego 18:15, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Nikki Haley, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  01:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

DYK
I don't know if I trust myself. Anyway, I changed the hook slightly, Dalip Singh Saund would be happy, and finally your article got to the main page. ;) Camptown 01:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Indian martial arts
You know about the history of this article. I ran the influences section through JFD and he was ok with it, now for some reason Kenny is intent on vandalizing it again. I will remove the Doss citation purely due to your recommendation though, he is an additional citation and could have stayed as his article was well researched. Freedom skies 02:07, 6 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I will keep the Alex Doss citation out. On a completely unrelated note, I may have a thing or two to say about "At least Kenny knows something about martial arts" but that's another story.
 * Freedom skies 02:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Dr. Chandra
They must be kidding. He is an Iyer from Srirangam and a distant relative of me. He however studied in Pakistan (I guess Punjab univ) because his father was working there. I'll see the page now. Balajiviswanathan 05:56, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Can it be India related
Can this be listed as India related ? Your opinion please. Thanks RaveenS 03:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Saare Jahan Se Achcha
Hello Bakasuprman. A while ago, we were both involved in the discussion at the talk page of Saare Jahan Se Achcha. Some new concerns have been brought up by another individual there and I have provided my comments. Your comments would also be appreciated as you have also researched the topic. With warm regards, AnupamTalk 00:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks for your comments. Are you in favor then of deleting the text of the song and the transliterations/translations? AnupamTalk 21:51, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Szhaider
Hi - I acted only after I had added to an ANI report on Szhaider's conduct. It was my first choice to leave this to others, but when he violated 3RR (which is a clear-cut rule), there remained no reason to hesitate. I also advise you to keep cool yourself - you must not make sarcastic insinuations in your comments. Rama's arrow 02:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, thank you for your concern. I am willing to accept any criticism, but I don't doubt myself becoz I've taken especially care not to act hastily. Rama's arrow  02:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Your message
Sorry for the delay. I was told that the discussion was centralized at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hinduism. Someone copied my response over there. Thanks. ←Humus sapiens ну? 07:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Comments to Fill via my talk page
Hello Baka, You are correct that ISKCON does not follow Ching-Thang Khomba, but you can be sure that Prabhupada strictly followed his guru, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura (the foremost Gaudiya Vaishnava acharya of his time) in whatever he taught to his disciples in regards to the teachings of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. There are a number of groups in India who claim to follow Mahaprabhu who engage in all kinds of nonsense so it requires some scrutiny to tell one from the other. Some subtle differences in style between Gauidya groups based in Vrindavan (also following Bhaktisiddhanta) and ISKCON are largely as a result of practicality. Introducing something to people 'as new' on a worldwide basis is different than teaching something 'already familiar' within your family at home. Ys, Gouranga(UK) 09:56, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello Bakaman, - I'd happily place [Category:Vaishnava missionaries] on the appropriate pages if you could create a sub-section within Hinduism? Teachers in the Gaudiya line have generally not called themselves Hindu, seeing it as a sectarian label. Vaishnava says "servant of Vishnu" which is more accurate in these instances. The practices of the Gaudiya Math family tree (including ISKCON) are based primarily on the teachings of Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's main disciples, known as the Six Goswamis of Vrindavan who wrote a number of very detailed books giving instructions on the minute details of bhakti-yoga. These may seem very different to other traditions in Hindusim if not encountered before, but if you take a short trip to Mayapur or Vrindavan then you'll find whole villages and towns whose practices are based on this model. Ys, Gouranga(UK) 10:33, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

New Page
Hello again Baka, I get only 457 direct hits for Anuradha Devi Dasi on Google. I have never heard of her before and am in some doubt as to if she would be in enough 'reknown' to warrant a Wikipedia page, according to general policy?? Regards, Gouranga(UK) 10:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Princess Diana Institute of Peace
Hi,

I kindly request you to have a look on the Princess Diana Institute of Peace whether the details I have submitted are meeting the criteria for citation. Thanks Rajsingam 11:11, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Oden RaveenS Bakasuprman SiobhanHansa Wackymacs User talk:Seraphimblade User talk:Freedom skies User talk:Rumpelstiltskin223 User talk:Dangerous-Boy User talk:Ccscott User talk:Dennisthe2 User talk:DoDoBirds User talk:Mariano Anto Bruno Mascarenhas User talk:Tarinth

Missionary categories
I saw your comments on the missionary categories at WP:CFD. I hope you understand my motivation for the merge; all of the missionaries listed in Category:Missionaries in Asia and Category:Missionaries in Africa appeared to be Christian (and I even checked all of the Asian ones). However, I do understand your viewpoint.

Anyhow, I would like to ask if you could clean up Category:Missionaries, which currently looks mangled. Could you please try to reorganize the category (sorting people by religion, location of work, etc.) so that it makes sense? Thank you, Dr. Submillimeter 12:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you for agreeing to overhaul these categories. They looked like a mess.  Dr. Submillimeter 02:04, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Alex Doss
Freedom skies would not have mended his broken word had it not been for you. Thank you. JFD 05:07, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

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DYK
I have slightly modified your DYK nomination for Hotte Paksha Rangaswamy. Can you please see if it is okay. -- Naveen  (talk) 10:35, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:kannada help needed
I looked at this link. It is an Affidavit filed by Hotte Paksha Rangaswamy during his election in 2004. It contains declarations on his assets and his affidavit stating that he does not have any criminal background. Nothing of the sort we could use in Wikipedia. -- Naveen  (talk) 15:51, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Please have a look at this
Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents

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DYK!
Thanks for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  20:26, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot for your DYK-nomination of Baghdad Street. CeeGee 09:49, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

DYK!
Thank you for your contributions!  Nish kid 64  17:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Sindhi Ppls
Dear Thanks yeah it is on my watchlist and i have been working on it.

here u can find more

http://www.sindhtoday.net/celebrity.htm

it is big list of Hindu Sindh and Muslims Sindhi.

I can do the rest but will be more glad if u could always be there to look on page too.

Khalidkhoso 04:19, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

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Dr. Chandra
Hi Baka! (Baka in japanese means stupid, as a kid :) ) Anyway! Dr. Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar was, on his death bed, and American. I think this is how his Nationality should be written. Currently it is listed as Indian which is wrong. I am not changing it 'cause I don't have time and will to fall into edit wars :) (Reply on my page)--æn↓þæµß¶-ŧ-¢ 21:42, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Shiva
Dear Baka - is it just me or is the Shiva article looking a bit of a mess lately? I'm no expert on all the different viewpoints but the article doesn't seem to do justice to the subject matter? Ys, Gouranga(UK) 21:37, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Meaning of the term Dravidian
Hi Baka,

With all due respect in what language does Dravid mean south? If it is in Sanskrit, then south means Dahkshina not Dravid or Dravidian. Also, Dahkshina means south in Hindi and not Dravid or Dravidian. "Dravidian has a venerable history as a label, and given that in modern times it has been employed in Indian phenomena as diverse as language and temple architecture, literature and systems of land tenure, religion and race (ethnicity)." Furthermore the term Dravidian connotates to a family of related ethnicities and languages in and outside of India.

Wiki Raja 05:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

The Dravida page notes it as Prakrit coming from a Tamil word with a similar meaning to what I gave. That South India is an entity different than North India is obvious. That these are the product of two different races is completely debatable. While the word Aryan has been hijacked by certain people, its not like certain people do "Dravidian" much justice either. Its impossible to deny that the South Indian ethnic groups are different than North Indian ones, but they arent separate. Religion is debatable as well, though there are more Saivites percentagewise in Tamil Nadu, there are huge centers of Saivism in Gujarat, Kashmir, and Bali as well. Also South Indian belief systems mirror mainstream Hinduism as our land was the birthplace of Valmiki, Adi Shankara and other figures.Bakaman 18:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

In regards to your above reply, I will let you first know that I am not here to advocate for any political group whether they be DMK, AIADMK, BJP, RSS, or what not. I am also not hear to advocate nationalism of any kind. What I am interested in is contributing information in regards to the Dravidian civilizations overall in encyclopediatic format covering all aspects from within India and outside of India. I do agree with you that Hindu thought and ideas are credited to the Indo-Aryans. Regards. Wiki Raja 19:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Hinduism articles dont have much on South India other than our kovils. The Shiva article is a mess as well.Bakaman 21:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Have you tried working on the Shiva article? Wiki Raja 21:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Suggest you reconsider
this. You folks were sniffing up the wrong tree. Best regards // Fra nkB 01:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)