User:Bielle/Archive 1

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Ah, apologies for the miscommunication then. My only issue was with the removal of all three. I had been the originator of the Jayde Nicole part, and simply assumed that the other two (later) additions by someone other than me had been valid as well. If the third name is, as you've said, some no-name 7-year-old, then by all means, remove it. - Digi

Thanks Bielle
As I said above, thanks Bielle - for your kind words. And no, I think you almost certainly won't be shelling out any bucks for an airline ticket any time soon. Or ever. If only because my sons are 29 and 22, and I'm sure they wouldn't relish having a little sister at this remove. And I'm sure my (male) partner would like to be consulted on the matter, too. That's only fair and reasonable, under the circumstances. :) JackofOz 05:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

London, 1770
Imagining London, 1770–1900 by Alan Robinson, Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2004 ISBN 1-40-393-289-1

Discussions on new desks
Per your request on the History Desk, here are the discussions! A.Z. 03:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)


 * I answered your question on my talk page. I'm just letting you know, because I don't know if you were expecting that I answered it here. A.Z. 04:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Rgarding Eptypes
Hello Bielle. Thanks for your comments. I understand your concerns, Eptypes certainly has an unusual edit history for a week-old editor. However, it isn't entirely fair projecting the disappointment many editors have over Clio's departure onto him. Eptypes has yet to comment on whether he is an sockpuppet account, but I think it is fair to assume he will say he is not. If he is a sock then he will be found out soon enough (they always are). If he is not, it would be very shabby of us to treat him as one. As far as I am concerned we should assume good faith and give him the benefit of the doubt. Rockpock e  t  07:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Clio is back
Clio returns, Bielle, thanks to people like you. You will see a general note of explanation on my talk page. I hope to get to know you better. Clio the Muse 23:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

"Racism"
Well, I am new to the idea of Phrenology, but the article notes that it is basically connecting personality with race. Let's take that as a definition. No, I am not suggesting that. I don't know where it came from, but not from me. I do not mean Jews are big headed in the personality sense, and it's a very rude way to state what I was trying to say. Put it this way. I'm not a Jew, but I could equally as well be big headed in personality sense - perhaps more so than a Jew. I think Phrenology, as I understand it, is total rubbish.

Neither am I racist. If I was racist, I would have said I thought Jews were inferior. I don't think that. That's a disgusting idea. I would fight for someone's right to say that, but not on the RD. We need to live with people, don't we? And that means not necessarily compromising views, but at least keeping your mouth shut - I think that's what I've tried to do.

What I was asserting was this: that, in the same way ethnic groups differ in skin colour, I thought Jews, as an ethnic group/race had a slightly larger and more robust skull. The main difference is that I didn't think you could see it immediately on looking at someone. You would have to closely examine someone's head to find out. And I thought the Nazis, with all their obsession about race, were capable of doing this. Anyway, surely they had someway of identifying Jews? If not, then I can only assume ethnic group had nothing to do with it, and only religion.

In all honesty, I feel a bit like a victim of political correctness - as if to say that you can't talk about ethnic group at all. I think yes, we can talk about ethnic groups - and differences which we rightly or wrongly believe exist. But so long as we don't think some races are inferior, or believe in Phrenology. martianlostinspace 10:09, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Correct, though Catholics/Protestants aren't really comparable. There is no such thing as a Christian ethnic group - it's purely a faith matter. Jews are clearly an ethnic group, however, as well as the Jewish religion. Not to say all religious Jews are Jewish by the ethnic group (or vice versa) but there must be such an existance of an ethnic group, if Hitler managed to fit them into his racial hierarchy - in the same column as, say, Slavs and Germans.martianlostinspace 20:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Grade 8 student
Possibly you are right, but the writing (and reading and math and...)skills of most American Jr. High and High school students are abysmal. My daughter went to private school for that very reason. If the student truly has the foreign language skills claimed and is in advanced placement classes it is possible s/he is merely in the habit of being very informal in internet communication so I thought to give the benefit of the doubt.-- killing sparrows  (chirp!) 01:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, don't get me started bragging about her. At seven, and reading at 5th grade level, she set up a chair in the front yard with a box in front of her that had a sign saying, 'For five cents I will read you a poem.' No lemonade stand for this girl! She made fifty cents that day (I still have the sign), although I did lobby a few friends to stop by. At 25 now, her talents run more to witty sarcasm than sonnets, but she is still a writer and makes me laugh. -- killing sparrows  (chirp!) 02:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Travels
Hi again Bielle. I was doing some housekeeping and realised I hadn't responded to your message on 17 May. Sorry about that. It seems you've seen some parts of Australia that I haven't. I've lived all my life in the eastern states (in order - NSW, Queensland, Canberra, Victoria) but I've been to South Australia a number of times, and to Tassy twice; well worth a visit. I've only been to the West once, and we only took in the south and the south-east, Perth, and up as far as New Norcia. I've never been to the Northern Territory, but it's been on my list for a long time. Cairns is the furthest north I've been, but that was too long ago to divulge. (Yes, most people tend to say "Cans" but we know better, don't we.) My next major trip will be to Sri Lanka and India in August with my partner. He's from SL and most of his family are still there, so we'll have free accommodation for 4 weeks, which makes the dent in our family fortunes somewhat more bearable. My only real worry is, how the hell will I survive without Wikipedia for that length of time. I'll just have to subsist on the occasional drop-in visits in between sightseeing, I guess. Or maybe I'll meet up with Arthur C Clarke, become his secretary, and choose to stay there. I'm sure my partner wouldn't mind in the slightest if we moved there permanently (despite the fact that he only left to avoid being blown up by the Tamil Tigers and they're still very much active, even recently in Colombo). But this is all hot air at this stage. Time will tell. :) JackofOz 02:33, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Yung G
Hi there, thanks for the heads up on this article. It was a bit of a tricky one. An editor was essentially copying the T.I. article across and changing the name in the lead to (presumably) his own. This has happened multiple times now, though only admins can see the deletion log, so there was no way you could have known that. There isn't really a specific template you can use for this sort of thing, as far as I am aware. The best thing to do is alert a admin (as you did), or you could use the standard db template, eg. Thanks again for being alert to this, you clearly have a nose for a hoax. Rockpock e  t  02:43, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Oh, by the way, the gamut of speedy deletion templates can be found at WP:CSD. You just need to add the the brackets and everthing inside them to the top of the questionable page. Rockpock  e  t  02:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Muller and Caulfield Architects
fits the criteria for speedy deletion for the following reason: advertisment, no context --Android Mouse Bot 2 03:35, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

References for CRAIC Technologies
I found some references for CRAIC Technologies, so I removed the speedy tag that you added to that article. --Eastmain 05:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not an admin, but I like to try to save articles by improving them when I can. In this case, I found a reference to the company at http://findarticles.com, which I often use when I am trying to expand an article. --Eastmain 06:06, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Profane user page
How uncivil! I took the liberty of removing the offending item myself, mainly per WP:HARASS. It will be interesting, considering his flair for language, to see how he responds to it. Another little bit of advice for you: you don't have to sign your name with tildes after you add a speedy deletion template to pages. Otherwise you are going a great job, thanks! Rockpock e  t  06:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Signatures are never, as far as I'm aware, required in article space. I guess it comes from the fact that we don't "own" anything we contribute to articles, even the notices. Its not anonymous per se, since the person who added it will be logged in the page history, but at the same time it doesn't really pay to advertise the person who added a speedy tag. More often than not it will just lead to irate users leaving rude notes demanding to know why you tagged it. There is no need for you to have to deal with that, since a sysop will review the merits of the request before deleting it, so the responsibility for the deletion is with them, not the nominator. Rockpock  e  t  07:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Milk in balloons
Thanks for that - you learn something every day. It was the specificity of the reference to balloons that floored me. "Bags" would have made more sense. Cheers, Richardrj talkemail 12:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for the link on Sluzzelin's talk page, the website describes exactly what i was looking for, its quite lucky you found it! Thanks again RobertsZ 20:14, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Lateness
Haha, yeah it's a bit too late - jeeze that debate is going to drive me nuts. It keeps being brought up over and over again, now I just vote for the status quo just because I'm so pissed off at whoever brought it up. And don't worry about the plus thing - that shouldn't be there anymore anyway. But just fyi, the plus is only on talk pages (I think), and it's next to "edit this page" (on the right). daniel folsom 02:36, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Nicely done
Hey, that's about as reasonable response to a (probably) trolling question as I can think of. Nicely done. Friday (talk) 02:15, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

The thing that IMO makes this an extra-good answer is this: whether or not the question was sincere, it's a good answer. This is ideal. Friday (talk) 02:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Rugby butt
And I'm not even a liker or follower of rugby league. Hopoate's unfortunate habit had a lot of media attention in Australia at the time, and the unusual nature of it sticks in one's memory. The obvious question was "Why wasn't he charged with assault?". If it had happened off the sporting field, he certainly would have been. But I ask the same question about unnecessary physical violence in all sorts of contact sports, but what I keep getting told is "You just don't understand sport, Jack. It's all part of the rough and tumble". Maybe that's why I'm not keen on aggressive sports that foster these kinds of things. And we wonder why there's so much domestic violence, when these guys who are held up as examples of fairness and good conduct engage in such horrible (and occasionally fatal) behaviour on our hallowed, sacred, sacrosanct sporting fields. I could go on and on and on .... but I'll spare you, this time. Cheers, and thanks for your message, Bielle. JackofOz 03:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Troll identification
I'm afraid there is no easy way, and in fact I can't be sure. I'm absolutely convinced, though, that the question was not serious but intended as trolling. --Lambiam Talk 21:34, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Wikipedians with articles
I don't see any problem with your responses to the questions at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedians with articles. I can't say what prompted the questions to begin with, but anyone can respond. ·:·Will Beback ·:· 22:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Signature Check
Bielle | Chat  05:24, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Too, TOO

Tarts etc
Not at all, Bielle. Sorry if my joke was a little too acidic; it was all in good fun, I assure you. In time, you'll come to love and appreciate my humour as everybody else does. :) JackofOz 02:18, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Niagara region
Thanks for the feedback you gave on my question. May I just run something by you, to make sure I understand (from my call to the Hamilton Library, the Wikipedia question on the Humanities Desk, and the Google maps thing):

From what I can see it seems like there are four islands of towns: Is this accurate?
 * Burlington and Hamilton are close together (and Ancaster, that's another town I was interested in)
 * Beamsville (Lincoln), Smithville (West Lincoln), and St. Catharines are close together
 * Dunville is off on its own, and
 * Brantford is off on its own

The towns I'm interested in are: And what I want to know is which towns are close enough to each other that people might conceivably be interested in an event happening in the next town. Thanks for any comments or observations you can make.
 * Hamilton
 * Ancaster
 * St. Catharines
 * Beamsville
 * Burlington
 * Brantford
 * Smithville
 * Dunnville


 * It depends upon the event. For a good music festival, or a sports event, people will drive from Toronto (3-4 hours). For a political press conference, no one would go half a block. People drive from Toronto for the casinos in Niagara. My spouse used to drive from Toronto to St Catharines every day to work. This is Canada; we are used to events being spread out. Tell us more about the event, and we might be able to give you more specific information. Bielle 02:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah I should have been more clear. I don't expect you to evaluate whether or not people would travel for my particular event, but the info you said about your spouse traveling from St. C. to Toronto is useful. I probably shouldn't have mentioned anything about the event, because it isn't something I can really talk about, but I should have left it with what I said at first about the groupings of towns. Are Burlington and Hamilton as close as they seem on the map? Are the three towns I mentioned above close enough to be considered sister communities? Are any of them bedroom communities of any of the others? Are Dunnville and Brantford as isolated from the others as they seem? Any help is great, but please don't stress yourself over it.


 * You haven't signed your posts, so I can't put answers on your Talk page (and yes, you have one, even if you haven't got a user name). I have to suppose that you are watching my talk page.

Hi, sorry. You can just answer here if you like, I am keeping the screen open and just refreshing it every now and then. 207.6.163.128 03:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Ancaster, Burlington and Hamilton are essentially the same place, with a few bridges and a few farms in between. (All these places are about an hour from Toronto, which has 3.5 million people.) The locals make clear distinctions among the communities, but you are essentially right about them. The others group as you say, but, unless you are talking about a very small event, with no local advertising, you may be making too much of the distances apart. I drive from the an hour east of Toronto to Niagara-on-the-Lake for a matinee at the Shaw Festival, and drive home again that night, for example. I take guests to Niaga Falls and consider it a day trip. Bielle 03:05, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Well that's really helpful to me, thanks fo rtaking the time.207.6.163.128 03:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

You are quite welcome. Come again some time, and set a spell. Bielle

Phone Charges
Actually, that toll number is from the US Embassy, the money will go towards securing the homeland from the terrorist threat of British holidaymakers to Disneyland. British government numbers tend to be toll free.

It is an absolute disgrace through. In the process of obtaining a visa to enter the US you get ripped off at every stage. When I came here as a visiting academic, in addition to all the fees you pay for the visa, I had to pay a SEVIS fee which funds a computer network to keep track of me while I'm in the US. Big Brother is watching me, and I'm paying for the privilege. The most ridiculous thing is that the US charges those who want a US visa the same price it costs US citizens to get a visa from your country of origin plus 20%. Of course, if any other country had this policy it would spark of an arms race and the costs would spiral out of control. Thats hegemony for you. Rockpock e  t  02:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't apologise. Tony and Co are just as bad, as while Gov't numbers in the UK are free, the same cannot be said for those abroad. The UK Embassy in Washington charges US$2.49 per minute for the same service! Rockpock  e  t  02:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

ironing t-shirts
hi Bielle, thanks for your response to my question, i was just wondering about the comment that ironing t-shirts will make other odd things happen? - "Anyone who irons t-shirts is bound to have something else odd happen to them." is this some form of causality i should be aware of? will my ironing t-shirts cause me to lose every paired sock, leaving me with just odd ones? chaos theory strikes again! :) or do you find the fact that i iron my t-shirts odd? granted not everyone does - it's people who iron their underwear and socks that worry me, anal, far too anal all the best X Perry-mankster 12:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)