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i had a oldsmobile cutlass 73 they don't manufaction them anymore. --Hitmonleechanpoke (talk) 16:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Oldsmobile stopped manufacturing cars years ago. –BuickCenturyDriver 18:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
 * yes Hitmonleechanpoke (talk) 22:09, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Ghostwriter Spanish logo
Hi, I've noticed your Spanish logo, and I don't think it should belong to the English section. Best put it on the Spanish version of the article.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 08:18, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

But I don't read Spanish.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 04:46, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

your report at Requests for comment/User names has been closed
I've closed your report there and will probably be removing it shortly. The reason is that both the directions at the top of the page and the edit notice that pops up when adding a report indicate that it is not a forum for reviewing blocks and that you must notify those being discussed. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:51, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooops. –BuickCenturyDriver 19:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

File:2011MLBASG.jpg
Just FYI that this has been orphaned again Skier Dude2 (talk) 04:39, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

My RfA
I just wanted to take a minute to thank you very much for supporting me in my recent RfA. Even though it was unsuccessful, I appreciate your trust. With much gratitude, jsfouche &#9789;&#9790; Talk 01:55, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!
Just echoing my thanks for your well wishes here since I just archived my talk page. 28bytes (talk) 01:42, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

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notice
Please see Talk:2011 Boston Red Sox season. Thanks! :)

 Red Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  20:19, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Tonight
Of all things, as the fates would have it, my lapto p caught a virus today! (I'm writing this on a cell phone.) Be my guest and add tonight's game (or someone else could do it, I just won't be able to); I can type this short message on a cell phone but this thing hates the huge window of the article page. My deepest apologies for simply adding to the confusion that I shouldn't have even stirred up in the first place! Just carry on with tonight's game as you normally would. Sorry for the mixup!  Red Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  19:09, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

List of admins
You probably didn't know this, but the list of admins is run completely by a bot. It won't work to split up the list a different way without coordinating with the bot operator to have the bot understand the new layout. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 11:46, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll ask, though I don't know if they will approve the change being there are currently 4 users beginning with a number. –BuickCenturyDriver 14:03, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem; the page isn't clearly marked as bot-driven, so how could you have known? Sometimes people who have been here too long (like me) take things for granted. &mdash; Carl (CBM · talk) 14:19, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Updating NL East standings...
When you update the NL East standings, could you please take an extra minute or two to update all of the teams instead of just your favorite team? Thanks... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eposty (talk • contribs)

2012 season
I would like to bring to your attention the creation of 2012 Boston Red Sox season. Thank you. :)  Red Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  00:46, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I was afraid of making the page too early, as last year it wasn't made until the 27th; little did I know some teams pages' were created significantly before the schedules were released.  Red Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  01:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
Today was bad enough a day when I woke up to find my grandmother had passed away (which is a totally different story) and then... well, you know.

Just wanted to thank you and gros hx4 and all the other folks who worked on the Red Sox' season page this year and for all the diligence that was put into it. I look forward to working with you again in that strange element so painfully familiar to Sox fans in the autumn months—"next year".

Have a great winter. :)  Red Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  05:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)


 * At least we have hockey! (Well, and football, but I simply don't get football.)  Red Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  04:08, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Al Davis
What is the purpose of this edit? Eagles  24/7  (C) 14:50, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Null edit. –BuickCenturyDriver 22:53, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Why do anything, then? Seems entirely unnecessary to me. Eagles  24/7  (C) 23:01, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well don't do it again... Eagles  24/7  (C) 23:15, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Re. 2011 World Series
Baseball  Watcher  01:56, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit Summary comments
I'm referring to this: [1 ]

First, I doubt this is really the right place to make such editorial-ish comments, especially in lieu of a summary which should've mentionned it was just some minor wikilinking. :)

Secondly, Link, Zelda and the like, despite being overly popular Nintendo Characters, do not appear in Mario Kart because the characters in that game (just like Mario Party, and just about every Mario sports title) are ones in the Mario expanded universe, which is not the case for Link & co. I do think a "Nintendo Kart" or other misc. sport title including such iconic characters would be a valid commercial idea, but that's another debate. :p (PS: If any, reply here, I've watched.) Salvidrim (talk) 04:44, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well it's very strange that the Smash Bros series which has almost all the Nintendo characters has Link and Zelda in it (and Samus too) but I think it would be silly to see Samus in a kart. but Link and Zelda should get a Mario Kart appearance.  Also the cloud guy does appear in other Mario Kart game as the guy that holds the traffic light, so it';s rather strange to pick him to become the next playable character.  . –BuickCenturyDriver 09:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Nonetheless, edit summaries (or any article talk pages) aren't the place to express your opinion on who should or shouldn't appear in Mario Kart and why. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 11:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I apologize. Unfortunately, edit summaries are etched in stone and the only way to remove them is to delete the page and restore it without the particular edit.  –BuickCenturyDriver 11:48, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, it's no big deal in this case, really.. But Super Smash Bros. is a series that includes characters from the entire library of Nintendo games (Mario, Zelda, but also Earthbound, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Metroid, and numerous others), while Mario Kart/Party/Sports stick to characters from the Mario universe.  That's just how it is, and any other way would just not make sense.  It's Mario Kart, not Nintendo Kart. :) Salvidrim (talk) 18:08, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * BuickCenturyDriver, do it again and you'll be blocked. I've already warned you above for the same behavior. Eagles  24/7  (C) 19:28, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Unless I am mistaken, the warning above was for a null edit, which was not this case (which was an actual edit). The content of the edit simply was not referenced in the edit summary, and the summary used for commentary. Salvidrim (talk) 19:37, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The intent is still the same. The Mario Kart edit was basically a null edit for BCD to add commentary in his edit summary. Eagles  24/7  (C) 19:42, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * At this point I'd probably want the edit removed, given the confict it has caused. –BuickCenturyDriver 00:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Blocking for that Eagles? Really? I agree it's not needed (and I'm happy to say clearly here - Buick, don't put your editorials into edit summaries - this isn't a forum) but let's not make a mountain of a molehill. I think Buick's learnt his lesson and threats of blocks seem unreasonable over such a trivial matter. WormTT  &middot; &#32;(talk) 09:40, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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I politely request that you add to these pages, so as to tag them for deletion by an administrator.

I also request that you do the same for your subpage endorsing William Thompson's 2009 Mayoral campaign. It wasn't appropriate in the first place, and it's certainly not appropriate three years after the election.

Thank you. DS (talk) 14:57, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Dealt with; thank you for being so understanding. DS (talk) 14:46, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * Exicardo Cayones: Hasn't played a game above Rookie league. Fails WP:BASEBALL/N

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 * The above articles were deleted after being put through the AFD ringer. –BuickCenturyDriver 08:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

My RfA
Thanks for your support at my RfA. I certainly learned to go further with AGF. Be among the first to see my L-plate! – Fayenatic L (talk) 14:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Be careful
Please be careful with edits like this. I almost reverted it as vandalism. If you had used an edit summary like "updating caption on updated image", I would have known what was going on. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 16:39, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Didn't mean to confuse you. Sorry.  –BuickCenturyDriver 16:43, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

A. J. Burnett
Even though he was traded, the harsh critisicism continues. –BuickCenturyDriver 08:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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List of human Sesame Street characters
Buick, you might have noticed that I reverted your recent edit to this list. The edit summary says it all: just because Bob McGrath plays a character named "Bob", it doesn't necessarily mean that he's playing himself. McGrath is an actor who toured Japan and sang for Mitch Miller; the character on Sesame Street is a music teacher who used to date a Deaf girl. Big difference, see? ;) Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 04:10, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I figured it would be reverted, but at least he gets to be called "Bob" on and off the street. –BuickCenturyDriver 23:48, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Yah, I guess it is. Although I hafta ask--if you knew that it would be reverted, why'd you add it in the first place?  I'm old and don't have as much time left; I certainly don't need anyone to be wasting my time! ;)  I'm being partly serious here, though.  Please, if you think that an edit will probably be reverted, it's a good idea not to make it.  If you have a question, ask it on the talk page, and if it's a reasonable edit that will improve the article, it will probably be okay. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 21:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Template:Mario franchise revert
You added Super Mario RPG & Paper Mario to the list of games in the Super Mario (series), which is incorrect. In addition, both games are already linked to through Mario role-playing games. Salvidrim!  21:14, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Red Sox log
Do you think the stadium/attendance columns should be reversed in the game logs? I could see the support for such an argument, but when I made the log I was simply repeating what I did last season, and now I can't even remember why I put attendance before stadium last year. Do you know what other game logs with stadiums do?  Red Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  04:14, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
 * On another note, where have you been getting the new "simpler" boxscore links so that I can use them as well? Thanks,  Red  Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  23:56, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you very much. I have bookmarked that page.  Red  Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  04:24, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you very much. I have bookmarked that page.  Red  Sox  Fan274   (leave a message ~contribs)  04:24, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

ANI
I am assuming that you did not intend to mass-blank parts of the page while correcting a "grammer" mistake and reverted accordingly. Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 02:00, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Correct. I was trying to fix a grammer error in an archive from a link on another page, but I didn't realize I was editing an old version of the actual page itself. I reverted it (with my trusty revert button of course) or at least I thought I did.  This what what I intended –BuickCenturyDriver 02:56, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

RFA Question
In this edit you ask the candidate why he or she desires to get the mop. However I would have to say it's a bit redundant in self-nom RFAs since the candidate clearly states why he wants to get the tools at the top. –BuickCenturyDriver 05:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * While I appreciate your opinion, my experience would seem to differ from yours. YMMV, of course. - jc37 05:46, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your support at my RfA. I will do my best to live up to people's confidence in me. Yngvadottir (talk) 15:22, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

ufc
so ufc 142, an event between some of the best mixed martial artists in the world and watched by millions of people isn't notable. a quote from your bio about wikipedia: "The site seems to cover virtually every subject under the sun." - not if you have your way it won't. or maybe it will, if by "virtually every subject" you mean "Rocky Roe" and "retractable roofs". get the hell out. 78.52.243.159 (talk) 13:44, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does cover every subject, but articles need to be notable to remain on the site, that is what the AFD discussions are for.  –BuickCenturyDriver 15:20, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Reporting an editor
Hello Buick,

My apologies if this is not the right way to report about a user. Though from your userpage I understand you are an administrator, and hence I thought you might want to take a look into it. This user User:Vinujadhav has been continuously spamming various wiki articles, I left a warning message as well on his page which went un-replied/ignored.Fanofbollywood (talk) 08:08, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I'm not an administrator, unless someone changed my page and it was reverted. –BuickCenturyDriver 02:05, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

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Survivor
Sorry to have placed your article up for CSD but two versions exisit and I was editing the one that was made first when I noticed yours as was another editor or so. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:14, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, I'm working on putting notes on the new page to distinguish between US 25th season and the Phillippenes editions of the show. –BuickCenturyDriver 03:18, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry your template was not used, I placed it in a note for the new season on the talk page for possible future use and okay. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 03:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * According to Survivor: Philippines's editing history, the template was used. the template was used on a misspelled article: Survivor: The Philippenes .  It has since been deleted and so the template may be used for future seasons if it gains favour.  Meantime, feel free to try it in your sandbox.   –BuickCenturyDriver 03:31, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Survivor: "The" Philippines
Just wanted to let you know that there is no "The" in the name of the upcoming US Survivor season. According to the screencap, it is actually "Survivor: Philippines". Apologies if I'm coming off as rude, just trying to help. - Katanin (talk) 03:29, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem, if the official site does not use "The" then I don't mind moving it back. –BuickCenturyDriver 03:31, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we should go by the logo right now, as that's what we've been using to determine the names for the entire series' run. The logo, as revealed, states "Survivor: Philippines", with no "The". An article already exists at Survivor: Phillippines (the incorrect spelling is noted in the talk page). We can discuss the name of the page in the talk page of that article. - Katanin (talk) 03:34, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The logo is here. - Katanin (talk) 03:38, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Barnstar
Thank you for the barnstar! It is an honor to receive one from you. I've never received an Editor's Barnstar before and I appreciate it a lot. I'm admittedly not much of a content creator, so the barnstar was quite unexpected.

It was indeed an interesting last season. Sometimes it dragged for a bit, but it was still fun. I'm looking forward to the next season.

Thanks again! -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:40, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * First we have to go through the long Summer, and then another fun-filled season of strategy and immunity challenges will be revealed this Fall. –BuickCenturyDriver 01:28, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Your RFB
Maybe it'll happen next time, just keep up your good work in the admin stuff. –BuickCenturyDriver 18:19, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your kind words. - jc37 22:47, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback
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Just letting you know I've placed the Baseball Watcher RfA onhold until he accepts.  Rcsprinter  (constabulary)  19:37, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Not a problem. –BuickCenturyDriver 00:49, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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Funny note about jimduquettesucked being banned
You said "Don't hate Jimmy, his Oriole team is in the thick of the AL East race." Thanks, I fixed my name since it was inappropriate. However, Dan Duquette is the GM of the Orioles at the moment. Jim did run the Orioles briefly, but he was chased out of town after...well...sucking. JDSCBG (talk) 16:14, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for participating in my RFA! I appreciate your support. Zagal e jo^^^ 05:53, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

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 * Kept. –BuickCenturyDriver 21:30, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Your username
I'm pretty sure it is in violation of the username policy; WP:PRODNAME. You are clearly promoting Buick. --GoHuskies990411 (talk) 15:00, 9 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Any feedback before it's submitted for review? --GoHuskies990411 (talk) 21:36, 10 August 2012 (UTC)



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Article now available for editing
Announcing creation of: 2013 Boston Red Sox season.  Red Sox  Fan274   (talk ~contribs)  05:36, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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Aden Services
I've seen you marked the Aden Services page as "being considered for deletion". Would you be kind enough to mention the reason? Content is not duplicated and there is no suspicious link. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shan Su (talk • contribs) 06:50, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The notability of the article was in question. Please see WP:COMPANY for more information.   –BuickCenturyDriver 06:53, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Survivor Phillipines
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New Page Patrolling
Just wondered why you marked Crime Opportunity theory as 'reviewed' when it is improperly titled, needs a significant amount of markup-cleanup and contains a misplaced AfC tag? And that's before I've actually read the contents... <font color="#00008B">Pol430 <font color="#9966CC">talk to me  17:39, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

MMA Event Notability
You are invited to join the discussion at WT:MMA. Kevlar (talk) 18:41, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Freaquer Corporation
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Your recent edits to 2013 New York Giants season
Hi there. Regarding you recent edits to this article: Please note that in 2010, the NFL implemented the so-called "West Coast" modification, so now clubs have to travel to play only one team based on the west coast (either Oakland or San Diego) in years they play the teams in the AFC West. Thus, per the rotation in 2013, as listed in the official 2012 NFL Record and Fact Book, the Giants will play away games at Kansas City and San Diego, and will stay at home for Denver and Oakland. Please also notice that this is also stated in the disclaimer at the bottom of the web site that you cited in your edit summaries, but they only chose to display them in italics instead of an outright update because they state that the changes "have not yet been announced" for some reason. In either case, many others would consider the NFL Record and Fact Book more official, reliable, and more current than a web site whose primary purpose is to provide PSL information. Regards. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:02, 31 December 2012 (UTC)