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Within the page Mens_movement the site Men's Activist News Network has been been in the External Links Section of the for sometime. Recently this site has been continuously removed from this list, in particular by Binksternet. The reasoning being atm "that the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center) says they publish falsehoods about female-initiated domestic violence". see Source,[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Men%27s_movement#mensactivism.org_in_External_Links. Talk discussion]. In particular the SPLC says the site asserts that:- 'women attack men just as much as men attack women', which they claim is a falsehood. Since it is news aggregation site it would have linked to an article that held that view.

The "Men's Movement" is an umbrella term for a broad group of organizations, with some of the organizations being are at ideological odds with others. The Men's Rights Movement is within this umbrella term. The External Links Section of the Men's Movement page links readers to further information. The site Men's Activist News Network was representing the Men's Rights Movement within this list and is a news aggregation site. As a news aggregation site a broad overview of the Men's Rights Movement. Atm there is no link representing the Men's Rights Movement. Other arguments after the fact have been proffered by Themfromspace.

I would make the following points:-


 * The view that men and women equally initiate domestic violence is a contentious issue, with credible people on both sides of the debate. Differing views here are within the realm of reasonable disagreement. Examples of support are Sociologist Murray Straus  and numerous papers in the Journal of Partner Abuse, (pub by Springer).


 * The site Men's Activist News Network by any measure is a reasonable site as is evidenced by the page outlining its philosophy.


 * The SPLC does not have especial expertise in Gender Issues and should not dictate to Wikipedia what is true or proper.


 * There is not a general policy that a link on Wikepedia must have verifiably true information.


 * Due to Men's Activist News Network's  broad and reasonable coverage of Men's Rights issues it seems a particularly appropriate link for this section.

As such I feel the site Men's Activist News Network should not be removed from this the External Links Section

Clearly an impasse has been reached here and any further editing would be defined as edit warring. As such I think we need more help in resolving this.