User:Calistemon/Archive 3

DYK for Hainsfarth
The DYK project (nominate) 14:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Apologies but try to WP:AGF
Thank you for your clarification of your source at Time pyramid, but there was no need for the additional ad hominim message on my talk page. It seems obvious to you where the information was to be found but, with apologies, I looked in the indicated places on that stated site and couldn't find it. How could I know that the English "translation" would in fact be entirely different, and far more detailed, from the actual German original? Given that, I don't feel my comments were out of line. Indeed the wikipedia guideline on avoiding personal attacks specifically states "A posting that says 'The paragraph you inserted into the article looks like original research', is not a personal attack." My comments were posted in an article talk page and were about the quality of the article, which I think is the goal of all.

I do feel that in the heat of the moment by adding a disparaging comment to my own personal talk page, that action really did "take it to the next level" and unnecessarily so. Everything that needed to be said you had already said in the reply to my comments in article talk. I specifically stated that I had read the cited source and found nothing relevant. How could you then conclude that I had not read the site at all? You assumed I was editing in bad faith, i.e. lying about having read the source, when that was not at all the case. It just makes it hard to work towards a better article when people take comments about the article so personally, which is not how anything was intended.

Good luck to you. --Rnickel (talk) 18:01, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Calistemon
Just a follow up with the Red Dog Pilbara site, many changes have happened, but someone has put up that REd Dog died somewhere between Dampier and Karratha, in all three books two of which are factual say that he died between roebourne and cossack, can you suggest a way that I can point this out to readers and editors, as it may become confusing after a while.

thanks for your help with the photos

anthony — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abloveridge (talk • contribs) 15:22, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Could you inform me where the source of the article that says he is buried between karratha and dampier
My feeling is people are getting confused about the memorial of red dog being the statue and thinking thats where he is buried.

There is really only three people that know where he was buried user betterantenna  who is Tony Jane the Son of Nancy Gillespie, the vet who looks like is one of your users and myself, but as mentioned before I will gather the quotes from the book and use that as a referance point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abloveridge (talk • contribs) 05:02, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

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All-Time DDR-Oberliga Table
Hey. Seeing as you contested the PROD, you might be interested in having an opinion on Articles for deletion/All-Time DDR-Oberliga Table. Best, Jenks24 (talk) 13:34, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Hello!
I've contacted you, along with the only two other individuals to work on articles listing mines because I'm attempting to figure out what articles we lack (and attempt to start them, where possible). Have a look at my sub-page and let me know if you think there's anything that I might be missing. Thanks. Ncboy2010 (talk) 18:20, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Well the ones that would be much larger, IE Lists of mines in Asia would pretty much be just that, lists of mines by country in Asia. Something like this:

The following are lists of mines in Asia:


 * List of mines in China
 * List of mines in Japan
 * List of mines in North Korea
 * List of mines in South Korea
 * List of mines in Vietnam
 * List of mines in Philippines
 * List of mines in Russia
 * List of mines in Taiwan
 * List of mines in Malaysia

So it wouldn't be very long, actually. What do you think? Ncboy2010 (talk) 11:21, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Dead link in article 'Davyhurst Gold Mine'
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List of promotions/relegations
Hello, I remember you mentioned this list of consecutive promotions/relegations .. but did you ever end up moving into Wikipedia or is it just sitting in your talk page? The reason I ask is because a club in Algeria, JS Saoura, just got promoted for the fourth time in a row and will play in the top flight next season, I just wanted to add them in if the list is an article now. TonyStarks (talk) 04:45, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Rio locos
Hi Calistemon. Thanks for your message. I don't claim to be an expert on the railways of the Pilbara - I just happened to have been in Port Hedland last weekend (for the first time in 19 years), and took the opportunity to take quite a few pictures (not just of railway topics) that I have since been uploading to commons. However, I am able to answer your question.

Your three images depict a total of three locomotives, including Hamersley Iron / Pilbara Rail nos 7071 and 7072. According to Pilbara Railways, which I believe to be the best online source of info about railways in the Pilbara, these two units are GE Dash 9-44CWs, manufactured by GE Transportation Systems. See this page. I have not been able to decipher the road number of the third locomotive, but it is almost certainly another member of the same class, albeit in a newer, slightly different, livery (Pilbara Rail instead of Hamersley Iron).

I will add some info along these lines to the commons caption of your three images in the next few days, and add some extra categories as well. By the way, the locomotives on the Fortescue railway (owned by FMG) are also GE Dash 9-44CWs.

I gather from your talk pages on en.wiki and commons that you work on a mine site somewhere in the Pilbara. If you get a chance to photograph any more Pilbara railway scenes, please do so, and upload them to commons. The main reason I've been uploading the photos I took in Port Hedland is that there just aren't enough Pilbara railway images on commons at the moment. Some photos of trains being loaded at (a) mine site(s) would be particularly useful. Even if you're not able to supply much info about the subject matter, a caption with the road number of each loco and the place where the photo was taken would be enough to enable another editor to supplement the info you've supplied. Regards, Bahnfrend (talk) 05:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Great to hear from you. I get the impression that rail enthusiasts are quite interested in the railways of the Pilbara, but very few of us have actually been there and seen them.  So some more pictures of the Rio system would be a very useful addition to commons/wikipedia.  Just a bit more background.  Rio operates two main types of locomotive.  The older of those types is the GE Dash 9-44CW type described above.  The second Pilbara Railways page I've linked you to provides info about the road numbers and liveries carried by these locomotives.  The newer of the main types is the GE ES44DC, which is essentially an updated Dash 9 with a new engine, more modern electronics, etc.  These are numbered from 8100 to about 8160, and I believe they're in two liveries - silver with black lettering/numbering and silver with red stripes and red lettering/numbering.  You should try to get some photos of all the various liveries, and of a range of individual vehicles.  To get a good idea of the sort of images that would appeal, you might want to look at this page (commons), this group pool (flickr), or enter the key words "Rio Tinto" into the search engine on this page (rail pictures).  Happy hunting! Bahnfrend (talk) 13:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Skarabela
Hi,

I've no immediate plans to create an article for Petr Skarabela, but I thought I'd add the link in as he's a notable player. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 15:56, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

when you are around
the super pit art needs your eagle eye (maybe you have some cites in sight?) - cheers - trust all is well SatuSuro 10:55, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

2012—13 Regionalliga & other relegation systems
I have been trying to find out how many teams will be relegated for next season. Based on past practice, I would have assumed that in the Regionalliga that the Nord division would relegate three (with Niedersaschenliga champion being directly promoted and the Schleslig-Holsteinliga, Oberliga Hamberg & Bremenliga champions entering the playoff with the Niedersaschenliga runner-up for two more berths); the Nordost two (the NOFV Oberligen champions promoted); the West three normally but five next season (the champions from Neiderrheinliga, Mittelrheinliga & Oberliga Westfalen promoted); the Süd/Südwest three normally but four next season (Oberliga Südwest, Hessenliga & Oberliga Baden-Württemberg champioms promoted); and the Bayern five next season but three normally plus a Qualification playoff between RL Bayern #15 & Bayernligen runners-up for two berths with the Bayernligen champions promoted. So far, I have not seen anything. In the Bayernligen, #16-19 relegated & #15s playoff with the loser entering a Qualification playoff with the 5 Landesligen runners-up for two berths and the 5 champions promoted. In the Landesligen, #16-19 relegated & #15s entering a Qualification playoff with 15 Bezirksligen runners-up for five berths and 15 champions promoted (if the number of Bezirksligen have not changed.) Raul17 (talk) 08:28, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I will be checking to see what have been decided. Raul17 (talk) 11:59, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
 * The Bayern promotion/relegation system is not complete, but I have pieced together some info:

Of course the champion from the Regionalliga enters the playoff for promotion, 16 & 17 have qualify against the Bayernliga runners-up and 18,19 & 20 are relegated. The two champions from the Bayernliga are promoted, the runners-up playoff against the 2 teams from the Regionalliga and 16, 17 & 18 are relegated along with the Süd´s 19. I beleive the 14 & 15 from both groups enter the playoff against the five Landesliga runners-up. The five Landesliga champions are promoted, the runners-up enter the playoff and 18, 19 & 20 from the Nordwest and 16, 17 & 18 from the other 4 Landesligen are relegated. Three teams from the Nordwest (15-17) and two (14&15) from the other groups I think enter the playoff with the 15 Bezirksliga runners-up.

I am a little confused with the Regionalliga Bayern not relegating at least 4 teams since the max for the league is to be 18. Chances are that the champion might not win promotion & there will be 19 teams or more if there are 3. Liga demotions. Raul17 (talk) 11:35, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, that was why I was surprised that only three teams were directly relegated after this season. Normally, the teams ranked 16 thru 18 (3 teams) are relegated directly with the 14 & 15 playing in the playoff against the Bayernliga runners-up. Just like the Tercera División in Spain, whenever the league is over 20 (for Spain) those teams falling in the extra slots are directly relegated which means that the Regionalliga should have relegated five teams this year. My basis for the playoff/relegation is from each of the league's standings in Fupa. Raul17 (talk) 01:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

The 15 champions from the Bezirksligen are promoted.
 * Yes, you are right. When I read that the Bayernliga runners-up were playing 16 & 17, I incorrectly assumed that there would be two berths for the regionalliga> Raul17 (talk) 00:12, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Regionalliga Bayern & Bayernliga
The BFV annouced the official promotion & relegation today! The maxium for the Regionalliga is 20 and not 18 as I assumed (though I beleive 18 is the standard). Three teams (18-20) will be relegated and the 16 & 17 will playoff against the Bayernliga runners-up for one or two slots depending on if the Regionalliga champion wins promotion or any clubs are demoted from the 3.Liga. The Bayernliga champions will be promoted & the runners-up playoff. The #15 from the Bayernliga Nord and 15 & 16 from Bayernliga Süd will playoff against the Landesliga runners-up for two slots. Each of the Bayernliga clubs against one of the runners-up while two of the runners-up playoff against one another in the 1st Round. The 4 winners are paired off in the 2nd Round for promotion. Eleven Landesliga teams playoff against the 15 Bezirksliga runners-up. First Round byes will be given to the Landesliga Nordost 15 and to the club with the best record amoung the Landesliga Nordost 16 or the other Landesliga #14. They will be broken down into 7 regional groups: 5 groups of 4 and 2 groups of 2 with the 12 winners advancing to the 2nd with the 2 clubs with byes for 7 slots. Raul17 (talk) 03:06, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

TSV Marl-Hüls
No idea at all, sorry, and if you are sure they are seperate clubs then feel free to take to Redirects for discussion, happy to support - unless you may think WP:CSD might apply? GiantSnowman 15:41, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I've tagged it as G7 and will wait to see if another admin approves. Regards, GiantSnowman 15:47, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Re-election (Football League)
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

List of final placings in the Fußball-Bundesliga
That page is awesome! I'd love to have those for other major football leagues. Thank you! --NaBUru38 (talk) 01:00, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

2nd Oberliga West
I just noticed that you moved 2. Oberliga West to 2nd Oberliga West. I think, that was no good idea. To me it seems, that the naming conventions for German league article are to have the German language name for the leagues here. Like in "Fußball-Oberliga Niederrhein" and not "Football Premier League of the Lower Rhine". Especially we stick to the "ß" although it is not used in English. So why now start with Germish/Denglish like "2nd Oberliga West"? If we use the "ß" in "Fußball" then imho there is no need to replace the "2." for "2nd". So I would recommend to leave it as "2. Oberliga West", the full German name. --NeunZehnHundertFünf (talk) 05:36, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You are mistaken, the article has never been moved, it sat at 2nd Oberliga West since I created it on 10 January 2008, over four years ago. I'm not sure were you saw a record of it having been moved. You can see that in the article history. It predates proper naming conventions for the German leagues, back then it was free-to-all. We have since gradually moved pages accross to Fußball-xxxx Liga names, after sounding it out first on Talk:Fußball-Oberliga in December last year and finding no interesst (or opposition). Fell free to bring the articles in line with the parent article and category if you got some spare time, just make sure you also ammend the links in the relevant templates to achieve a direct link rather then a link through redirect. Calistemon (talk) 05:56, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * This one is it, I came across. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2._Oberliga_West&action=history --NeunZehnHundertFünf (talk) 10:57, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That's not a page move, its a redirect page I've created when I found the redlink on the Westfalenliga page. Do you understand the difference between moving a page from one name to the other and creating a redirect page? Calistemon (talk) 11:04, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I looked at it for a split-second, didn't really care for the technicalities. So whatever, if you moved or you created the site, imho the outcome should have been a headline "2. Oberliga West" containing the article. Not "2. Oberliga West" linking to "2nd Oberliga West". --NeunZehnHundertFünf (talk) 11:26, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not technicalities, there is a fundamental difference between a redirect and a page move, which you obviously don't seem to understand. And if the article ever gets moved it would be to 2. Fußball-Oberliga West, by current naming conventions for German football leagues, not 2. Oberliga West. 2. Oberliga West and 2nd Oberliga West will then both be redirects. Calistemon (talk) 11:36, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Boolgeeda Airport
I just took another look at the AIP and it's not clear on what the surface is but I see that the runway is not listed as "sealed". It looks like you are correct. Don't get into trouble for the picture. Already had one editor get chased away after they took pictures at a military base. Is the surface currently gravel? If it is then with a gravel kit you can land a 737 (probably only the older types) on a gravel runway. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 00:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll change the article to read gravel util it's done. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 03:58, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That's odd because it appears that Newmont sold it in 2004 to View and then on to Navigatorin 2009. You would think that Airservices Australia would have managed to update the AIP by now. I know governments can be a little slow but 8 years is a long time. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 04:31, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * That may be the case then that Newmont still own the airport. By the way I had to look up Tenement (law) as the word isn't commonly used here. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 04:53, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Bavarian derby
Hi Calistemon. I saw you put some effort in improving the article on Bavarian football derbies. For instance you answered my request to reference the sentence 'It's commonly called the Bavarian derby (German:Bayrisches Derby).'. In the next phrase I gave reference that both competing teams and THE German sports magazine kicker call it differently at least when communicating in German. A quick google search shows that this is also true for the vast majority of German media. Hence I totally do not understand how a single German article in a low quality German magazine can prove that this match is 'commonly called the Bavarian derby' in German or English. best regards --84.183.99.131 (talk) 10:13, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You have requested a reference, I provided one. Keep in mind that Bavarian derby does not just apply to the 1. FCN-FCB match, it is used for any (football-)game between two Bavarian clubs. And Franconia is still a part of Bavaria and has been for over 200 years. I guess your addition as Nuremberg fans consider themselves and their club as non-Bavarian means you would like to change this but don't forget that 1. FCN also has many fans outside of Franconia, northern Swabia for example, which don't share your opinion of Franconia not being Bavarian. The FC Bayern for example considers the games between Nuremberg and Fürth as a Bayerisches derby. Both names are quite valid therefore, entirely depending which side of the Franconian-Old Bavarian border you life on. Keep well, Calistemon (talk) 22:35, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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German season articles
For now we can clean up as per my edits to KSC; as for updating, we can let the greater populace of Wikipedia update them, I'm sure people will. Worse case scenario, we mass update once every often. There are also a number of editors active in German football who I'm sure will lend a hand. GiantSnowman 13:40, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

2012–13 Rot-Weiß Oberhausen season
I've created most of German club season articles. I will get started on it. Kingjeff (talk) 23:09, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Can you take care of the lead? Kingjeff (talk) 23:19, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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