User:Cassiopeia/NPPS/Aaron Liu

Hello, welcome to your New Page Patrol School page! Every person I instruct will have their own page on which I will give them support and tasks for them to complete. Please make sure you have this page added to your watchlist. Your NPP School page has been specifically designed according to you and what you have requested instruction in - for that reason, please be as specific as possible when under my instruction, so that I know the best ways to help you (and do not be afraid to let me know if you think something isn't working).

Make sure you read through Notability as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.

This page will be built up over your time in the Academy, with new sections being added as you complete old ones. Each section will end with a task, written in bold type - this might just ask a question, or it might require you to go and do something. You can answer a question by typing the answer below the task; if you have to do something, you will need to provide diffs to demonstrate that you have completed the task. Some sections will have more than one task, sometimes additional tasks may be added to a section as you complete them. Please always sign your responses to tasks as you would on a talk page.
 * How to use this page

If both the instructor and student make completing the course curriculum a top priority, it will generally take around a month to go through the entirety of the curriculum. This pace is not required or necessarily expected, but rather is provided in order to give participants an idea of what to expect.

Notability
 PART 1 

When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.


 * A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.

General notability guidelines
1. In your own words, why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors.

Answer: New editors may be interested in contributing to Wikipedia. By biting them or assuming bad faith, you might scare them off never to be seen again. It is also important to AGF on old editors, as honest mistakes are easy to make and most people want to contribute instead of harm.
 * ✅. New editors might make mistakes as they violate Wikipedia policy / guidelines due to their lack of knowledge. In all situations it's for the best to behave in a civilized manner, not give rise to or support fights unless the editors make vandalism edits then an appropriate warning message should be given. Cassiopeia  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

2. In your own words, how is notability defined in Wikipedia?

Answer: Generally, something is notable if it has received a lot of coverage in secondary reliable sources that aren't routine coverage.
 * . In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list if (1) it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject whee by the sources talk "directly" about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2) it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy. Cassiopeia  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

3. Is a step-by-step instruction on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?

Answer: No. Wikipedia is not a guide.
 * ✅. Right as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a how to manual site. Cassiopeia  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?

Answer: Specific policies can help determine whether or not a subject has extensive coverage and/or what sources should be used.
 * . Pls answer again. Cassiopeia  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Answer again: GNG is general and applies to everything. SNGs are created to help gauge whether something passes GNG, specifically, the community believes that the subject passes GNG if it meets SNG. Different SNGs exist for each subject, while GNG applies to everything. SNGs and GNG are the same in essence, so one could use either one, but usually looking at SNGs first is easier as these are more specific. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:42, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ - Both can be used when patrolling but those subject falls under SNG/SSG but fails to meet the WP:GNG guidelines would sometimes nominated for deletion WP:AfD for discussion to determine the status of the article. (We will cover AfD in later assignment). However, (important) SNG and SSG do NOT supersite GNG, if a SNG or SSG change, all articles which previously passed SNG or SSG that the current changed SSG or SNG do not apply would subject to be deleted under AfD. And if articles pass SNG or SSG and do not pass GNG would also subject to AfD (to say that if an article pass SSG or SNG it usually would pass GNG criteria). In another words, for an article to be truly stay in main space in Wikipedia, the article needs to be truly pass GNG. Cassiopeia  talk  01:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Specific notability guidelines
5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?

Answer: Yes, the subject is considered notable, as the 2024 Olympics are already scheduled and the details for the bid have been cemented.
 * ✅The subject is considered notable as 1. it had widespread effect as an international event, 2. it has already been written about in independent sources. 3. it's in relatively near future with set place and dates (Summer Olympics 2050 would not pass for instance).  Cassiopeia   talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * B.  Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below,  please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

6. A New York city based 2021 start up software company, specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.

Answer: It's hard to say ignoring sources, but just the information given alone does not pass WP:NCORP. The investor fund doesn't matter, and I'm pretty sure that's kinda normal for startups.
 * ✅. Cassiopeia  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

7. Guram Kutateladze who is a Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 12-2.

Answer: Probably not. The only SSN for this (WP:NMMA) is being in the world top 10 for his division. He isn't on the Sherdog ranking or the Fight Matrix ranking. Also, based on these rankings I heavily doubt that his record is undefeated.
 * ✅. Cassiopeia</b>  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2022 and to be released on August 2023 in the cinemas.

Answer: I'm not sure if you intended for the "in production" date to be in the future, as it's past December 2022. WP:NFF states that an article should not exist if principle photography, which is the first phase of production, has not begun. So, yes, the film should qualify as notable.
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

9. A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2021 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.

Answer: No. WP:NPOL says that candidates need to have a background or have press coverage way more than just local news to warrant notability. Additionally, coverage of new local candidates is WP:ROUTINE. Also, a bit down from ROUTINE is WP:BLP1E, which says that subjects primarily notable for a single event are not notable enough to warrant their own article, and if the event is notable enough should be covered in that event's article instead.
 * ✅. To pass WP:NPOL, once needs to be officially elected to state/national position.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2020 and his songs are listed in Spotify.

Answer: No. Doesn't meet anything in WP:NSINGER.
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)


 * C. Based on  which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteriaMUSICBI#1 (if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations

11. Carlos Alós-Ferrer

Answer: WP:NPROF #1 and #8. Highly cited according to Google Scholar, chief editor of Journal of Economic Psychology.
 * Pls provide the support/evident of "highly cited scholar"<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Google Scholar link: https://scholar.google.co.il/citations?user=c45lelAAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao


 * ✅. See square open and close bracket example in the communication section instead of just provide the URL<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

12. Alistair Overeem

Answer: WP:NKICK top 10 by and world titles count as top 10.
 * Subject passes more than one SSN. Pls provide which SSN.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk
 * I can’t find any other SSN.


 * - Hint from the lead section of the article "Alistair Cees Overeem (born 17 May 1980) is a Dutch professional heavyweight mixed martial artist and kickboxer, currently competing in the heavyweight division of Glory. He is a former Strikeforce Heavyweight Champion, Dream Heavyweight Champion, K-1 World Grand Prix Champion, and was the first fighter to hold world titles in MMA and K-1 kickboxing at the same time."


 * Answer again: After an hour of searching I've finally found this. He's listed as #8 quite a couple times and passes NMMA. <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu  (talk) 18:37, 28 May 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅ . Good. You can type "Alistair Overeem Fight Matrix" on Google and the page will pop out in the first search.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  22:37, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

13. Jennifer Lopez

Answer: WP:NSINGER #1-#5, #7, #8, WP:NACTOR #1, etc.
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

14. Three Mile Island accident

Answer: WP:NEVENT significant lasting effects, scope and coverage.


 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

15. Persepolis

Answer: WP:NBUILD #1.
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

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 * Good day. See assignment 1 above.
 * (1) For all the assignments, pls provide hist diffs (see Help:Diff for instructions) of the articles, reverts, edits, reports, results of the reports, talk page messages that are applicable.
 * (2) Pls provide guidelines where applicable and justify/explain in details of your application or analysis.
 * (3) Pls ping me if you need assistance (here in this program page at the communication section of every assignment).
 * (4) Please book mark this page and ping me when you have finished the assignment for me to review.
 * (5) If you need to take a break from editing Wikipedia for more than 2 weeks, pls inform me so I may know. If you Stay safe and best. Welcome to NPPS.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  03:47, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * As requested. I’ve finished the first assignment. Also, I’m pretty sure MOS prohibits using semicolon list items for headers. <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 02:03, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, could we move this to the talk page so I can use discussion tools? <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 21:16, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * No. Each assignment has a "communication section" (at the bottom of the assignment). All communication of the assignments would be discussed/exchanged at the "communication section " of the particular assignment respectively.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  06:15, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Why must it be at the bottom? Can’t it at least be a separate section? <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 11:27, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * All questions and info in one space. If you find it so difficult to place the discussion to be at the bottom of the assignment, then you can opt out of the program.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>   talk  06:49, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Is there a time you could finish reviewing my first assignment? <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 11:41, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Believe you will stay on the program. I will review by this weekend.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  04:01, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Pls answer again for Part A Q4. Pls answer again for Part C Q11 and Q12. When you have done, ping me. Be safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>   talk  07:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
 * As indicated on my last message, if you have finished answering the question and would like me to review you need to ping me to let me know.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  02:45, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I only just "finished". <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 11:48, 24 May 2023 (UTC)


 * , I have reviewed your answer. Pls read the comments and answer the question Part C Q12 again and ping me when you have finished.


 * Square brackets:
 * You can house the link with square brackets (open and close) instead leave the copy and paste the URL. see examples below - pls view in source edit mode.


 * Example 1 - just the URL
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Albufeira&diff=1152873762&oldid=1152873627


 * Example 2 - house the edit with square brackets
 * 


 * Example 3 - brief info of the link (add square bracket and state brief info - note a space is needed after the last aphbehet of the URL before the brief info text)
 * this edit


 * <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:58, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cassiopeia I know what square brackets do. However writing out the URL when it's the majority of an answer is much better aesthetically. I do not get your hint. If you're talking about NMMA, I cannot find any world heavyweight ranking in which Overeem is in the top 10. <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 02:01, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, since you know about square brackets for housing the URL, then use it in the future as it would provide a link info or # so it could be set as a reference. As for question Part C Q12, go and find the criteria of NMMA and from the info go and search the info on the search engine and you will find the info easily and do provide necessary link of your finding for your answer. When it is done, ping me. Be safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  03:22, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * , Remember to ping each time when you have finished the assignment. Reviewed Part C Q12. If you have any questions, pls let me know or you are ready to move on to the next assignment. Pls let me know. Be safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  22:37, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cassiopeia Sure let's move on. I did ping though, in the question itself. <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 00:25, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * , OK and pls ping me on the communication section in the future.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  02:02, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

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Background for trainees

 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for such content claimed should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary and answered the the below questions in your own words.


 * You could contact WP:RX if you could not find the sources yourself either on web due to Paywall content or printed books.

Exercises

 * 1.


 * 2.


 * 3.

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Answer: To substantially increase the possibility of the claim being true. As an encyclopedia, we shouldn't publish statements of dubious truth.
 * 4. Please explain in your own words why the content claimed needs to be verified?

Answer: No. 1. Citing an uncited claim still doesn't have an actual source 2. When they are cited, we should use the actual source as anyone can edit and the material might be moved.
 * 5.Could we used Wikipedia as the source? and why?

Answer: A court filing is usually truthful (legal oath) but written by the company about itself, so it is not independent.
 * 6.Give an example and explain why a source is reliable but not independent of a subject?

Answer: Wikipedia is independent, and as discussed in 5 Wikipedia shouldn't be cited.
 * 7.Give an example and explain why a source is independent source but not reliable?

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 * Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no or "?" after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".

Example Article about Bill Gates

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David Howell Petraeus (born November 7, 1952) is a retired United States Army general and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011, until his resignation on November 9, 2012 after his affair with Paula Broadwell was reported.

Petraeus was born in Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York, the son of Sixtus Petraeus (1915–2008), a sea captain from Franeker, Netherlands.

In 2003, Petraeus commanded the 101st Airborne Division in the fall of Baghdad

Why is [2] the first source in the table? <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 15:42, 11 July 2023 (UTC)


 * 9. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

Answer:

Yes. WP:NPOL#1 held national office

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Martina Hingis is a Swiss former professional tennis player. She won five Grand Slam singles titles. Hingis was one of the highest-paid female athletes in 2000. She retired in November 2007 after being hampered by a hip injury for several months and testing positive for a metabolite of cocaine during that year's Wimbledon Championships, which led to a two-year suspension from the sport.


 * 11. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

Answer:

Yea, NTENNIS#2


 * Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" or "?" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".

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Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan. Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture." This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home.


 * 13. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

Answer: WP:ARCHITECT#4: Created Guggenheim and Fallingwater, which are works of art that have received significant coverage.

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Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA. He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation.

At age 16, the vice president of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor. In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy. Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.


 * 15. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

Answer: Doesn't meet WP:NACTOR: 1. 0 notable released works (or maybe just 1 short as seen in Behind The Voice Actors), 2. doesn't seem innovative

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Sonny William Williams (born 3 August 1985), who is a Muslim, is a New Zealand All blacks rugby union footballer, Williams was a Marist Saints junior when he was spotted playing in Auckland by Bulldogs talent scout John Ackland. In 2002 he was offered a contract and moved to Sydney (as the youngest player to ever sign with an NRL club) to play in the Bulldogs' junior grades.


 * 17. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

Answer: No SSNs based on content of the article. However, he has since become a WBA boxing international heavyweight champion, which satisfies WP:NBOX (#1 as it's only one criteria)

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"Can't Stop This Thing We Started" is a song by Canadian singer and songwriter Bryan Adams. The song was written by Adams and Robert John "Mutt" Lange, and was the second single from Adams' 1991 album Waking Up the Neighbours where by the song was nominated for Grammy Award 1992 "Song of the Year"

Weekly charts


 * 19. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

Answer: Fits WP:NSONG#1 as it charted, at least on Billboard

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Kamlesh Bhatt is a Solution Architect and a DevOps Engineer living in Singapore. I am a fan of technology, music, and entrepreneurship. He is interested in photography and travel. He could be reached at his blog and youtube channel.


 * 21. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example – MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

Answer: just no

fails all of WP:ANYBIO I guess -


 * , See assignment 2 above. Ping me here (the communication section) when you have done the assignment. Be safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  02:04, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Done. I still don't really get the MOS-violating formatting. <span style="color: rgb(6,69,173); text-decoration: inherit;">Aaron Liu (talk) 19:49, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
 * , Sorry for the late reply as I just came back from 6 week vacation not long. Not sure what you mean (which Question or section) about the MOS violation - pls specify which Question/comment/link) and if you have finished the assignment and want me to review, then pls let me know. Thank you and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  23:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * MOS:PSEUDOHEADINGS: Do not make pseudo-headings by abusing semicolon markup (reserved for description lists) and try to avoid using bold markup. Along with accessibility reasons, these also prevent the "edit" button for that specific subsection from showing up. The numbered subsections for exercises violates this, and I had to manually convert them for the convenience of editing subsections. Also, I do not see any reason for making communication at the bottom of this page instead of on the talk page. @Cassiopeia And yes, I have finished the assignment. That's what I meant to mean by "Done", sorry for the confusion. Aaron Liu  (talk) 00:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)