User:Cassiopeia/NPPS/Johand199

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Make sure you read through Notability as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.

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Notability
 PART 1 

When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.


 * A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.

General notability guidelines
1. In your own words, why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors.

Answer: When a new editor makes their first edit, they may not be aware or taken the time to read and understand the markup, guidelines, etc. So instead of creating a hostile environment where we assume they intentionally broke the rules/guidelines, we should assume good faith. Assuming good faith and not biting a user by linking the correct guidelines in a welcome message instead of a warning template will also hopefully also help the user become a regular. By not biting we also avoid a lot of fights/arguments as the receiving user will take it as you helping them, not as you attacking them personally. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cassiopeia(talk) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

2. In your own words, how does notability is defined in Wikipedia?

Answer: Notability in short means "worthy to be noted". This means the article/subject should have significant coverage by reliable sources. It should also meet General notability guideline. Also a relevant essay: Verifiability,_not_truth  Johand 199  (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * . In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list if (1) it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject whee by the sources talk "directly" about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2) it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy. Cassiopeia(talk) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

3. Does a step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?

Answer: Nope Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal. It may be reliable and good coverage by sources, but it does not satisfy what Wikipedia is not  Johand 199  (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. Right as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a how to manual site. Cassiopeia(talk) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?

Answer: When reviewing pages, both WP:GNG and the more specific notability guidelines should be used. However, the GNG is more general that all articles should follow. Specific notability guidelines like WP:BAND goes into more details of what more that just GNG/reliable sources is required for article creation. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ Both GNG and SNG can be used when reveiwing an article; however, first check whether the topic meets GNG and SNG does not superseded GNG. SNG guidelines do have its place especially in AfD (Article for Deletion) (we will cover that in later chapter) for some of the sport person might have some source in "routine coverage" but fail SNG or some subjects meet SNG but independent, reliable sources (we will cover source in later chapter) are have to come by. Example: certain subjects would not meet GNG due to the fact that no article talk about them directly in length and in dept such the academics- WP:PROF - who would received few or none independence source talk about them (we would see BBC write an article about car stuck in a tree see here but not the President of Australian National University would be hard to find) Other SGN such as WP:NCOR and WP:NPOL specify a very strict set of source criteria and requirements respectively. Cassiopeia(talk) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Specific notability guidelines
5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?

Answer: From checking Notability (events) the event should be notable enough, not too far into the future, and is highly likely to to take place in 2024. However since no sources was provided I would do a few searches to validate if a place, date and preparation has started or been announced by reliable sources, and add them where appropriate to the article. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. I like your approach. We the reveiwers, in good will, if we familiar with the subject) should always check if any sources out there to strengthen the notability of the subject instead just tagging (we will cover tagging in later chapter) especially if we know the subject is most likely notable. However, if no sources could be found then the subject is not notable. <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)


 * B.  Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below,  please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.   Johand 199  (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

6. A New York city based 2019 start up software company, specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.

Answer: No, this would fail WP:COMPANY. A investor funding a company on its own is not notable. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. When reviewing an article about a company, we need to check if the subject meets [WP:NCORP]] even thought there are many sources provided in the article.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

7. Nascimento Ferreira who is a Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 8-0.

Answer: I am not so good at sports, but I think it would fail WP:NMMA. It just shows two UFC fights, and the others seems like smaller non notable event. Also he has not fought in a top-tier MMA organization. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ UFC is top tier promotion in mixed martial arts and he needs to fight his 3rd fight in UFC prior meeting WP:MMABIO. There are many SNG for sport in Wikipedia. If you are not familiar with the subject, a sportman or film or book or etc. then dont review the article and let other reviewers who is comfortable and know the subjects/fields well to action. I dont review any article with half of the page full of equations, prove or extremely technical content, for I need to go back to university again to take some classes in math or physics before I would understand the content and let alone review the articles.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2020 and to be released on August 2022 in the cinemas.

Answer: No, this would fail WP:NFF, as they have not commenced principal photography. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

9. A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2020 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.

Answer: I think this would fail WP:POLITICIAN due to not being in any current or held any previous political positions. The sources also does not seem significant due to it only being a few local newspapers covering it. I am a bit on the fence, but I am leaning to fail as it seems like just running for a political position is not enough. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅. If the subject has won the position but yet to be in the office, we would take the subject as notable.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2019 and his songs are listed in Spotify.

Answer: Would fail WP:SINGER. Spotify would fall under self-published sources, and he does meet any other criterias. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)


 * C. Based on  which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteriaMUSICBI#1 (if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations

11. Carlos Alós-Ferrer

Answer: Should pass under WP:ACADEMIC, especially #8 as him being the editor in chief of the Journal of Economic Psychology. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

12. Alistair Overeem

Answer: First I found this WP:NMMA, where he passes #1 and #2. However I also found this WikiProject_Martial_arts/Kickboxing_task_force where he also passes both criterias. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

13. Jennifer Lopez

Answer: Passes all criterias in WP:NACTOR and most, if not all in WP:SINGER  Johand 199  (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

14. Three Mile Island accident

Answer: Passes WP:EVENT as it has a lasting effect, geographical scope, and good reliable coverage. Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

15. Persepolis

Answer: Passes Geographic regions, areas and places under "Populated, legally recognized places" - "Even abandoned places can be notable, because notability encompasses their entire history." Johand 199 (Talk)  01:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

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Good day. See assignment 1 above. For all the assignments, pls provide hist diffs of the articles, reverts, edits, reports, results of the reports, guidelines, talk page messages, and any hist diff that is applicable. Pls provide guidelines where applicable and justify/explain in details of your application or analysis. Pls ping me if you need assistance (here in this program page at the communication section of every assignment). Please book mark this page and ping me when you have finished the assignment for me to review. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 10:54, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Heyo, at work right now, but will get started this evening and ping you as soon as I am done. Normally I work from 9:00 - 6:00 Monday-Friday UK time, so won’t be responsive around those times. thanks!  Johand 199  (Talk)  11:04, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey! That should be everything, let me know if I missed something :)  Johand 199  (Talk)  18:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Kindly read the question part C again - You need to specify not only which SNG but also its criteria (example: meets WP:NCORP criteria # 3,9 and 17). Do note some subjects do meet more than one SNG and you need to list them all. Ping when you have finished part C. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:40, 15 October 2020 (UTC)