User:Cassiopeia/NPPS/PopePompus

Hello, welcome to your New Page Patrol School page! Every person I instruct will have their own page on which I will give them support and tasks for them to complete. Please make sure you have this page added to your watchlist. Your NPP School page has been specifically designed according to you and what you have requested instruction in - for that reason, please be as specific as possible when under my instruction, so that I know the best ways to help you (and do not be afraid to let me know if you think something isn't working).

Make sure you read through Notability as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.

This page will be built up over your time in the Academy, with new sections being added as you complete old ones. Each section will end with a task, written in bold type - this might just ask a question, or it might require you to go and do something. You can answer a question by typing the answer below the task; if you have to do something, you will need to provide diffs to demonstrate that you have completed the task. Some sections will have more than one task, sometimes additional tasks may be added to a section as you complete them. Please always sign your responses to tasks as you would on a talk page.
 * How to use this page

If both the instructor and student make completing the course curriculum a top priority, it will generally take around a month to go through the entirety of the curriculum. This pace is not required or necessarily expected, but rather is provided in order to give participants an idea of what to expect.

Notability
 PART 1 

When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.


 * A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.

General notability guidelines
1. In your own words, why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors.

Answer: Wikipedia has a lot of conventions and rules which new editors are almost certain to be unaware of. If, for example, a new editor's first page is quickly deleted with no explanation beyond a cryptic WP:xxxxx, the newbie may give up contributing to Wikipedia altogether. More generally, organizations like Wikipedia are vulnerable to a type of instability where a group of highly invested members creates an environment that is or appears to be hostile to newcomers and casual editors. That hostility, whether real or merely perceived, can result in the group's membership dwindling to persons impervious to that particular form of hostility. That, in turn, will limit the spectrum of persons contributing to the project, which will result in a poorer product.PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Good. We should always help the new editors who want to provide good contribution and want to improve Wikipedia even at time they might not know the the Wikipedia guidelines. Cassiopeia(talk) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

2. In your own words, how does notability is defined in Wikipedia?

Answer: A subject is notable, in other words worthy of a separate Wikipedia article, if it has been discussed by multiple reliable sources independent of the subject, with significant depth. The independence requirement excludes most sources that are not disinterested, such as corporate press releases, or paid promotional material. Also excluded is independent research, which would include such things as details about an organization that the editor gleaned while employed by the organization. Multiple sources are usually required, in part to ensure viewpoint neutrality. The significant depth requirement is needed because countless people, places and things are identified briefly in secondary sources such as newspapers when reporting events. The reliability of a source is a more squishy issue. The best sources to use to use to establish notability would be ones that undergo peer-review or are vetted by professional editors, such as professional journals, major newspapers and traditionally published books. On the other end of the spectrum would be blog postings, which probably should not be considered at all for the purpose of establishing notability, but which might still be a citable source for an article.PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * . See (2) below. In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list if  (1)  it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject where by the sources talk "directly"  about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2)  it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy. Cassiopeia(talk) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

3. Does a step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?

Answer: No. See NOTHOWTO PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Note: Need to explain more/in details and not just provide the link only such as indicates Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a how to manual site. Cassiopeia(talk) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?

Answer: Specific notability guides help editors determine notability for articles in a specific subject area. The one I am most familiar with is WP:NASTRO. It states, for example that any object listed in a historically important catalog like the Messier catalog is inherently notable, and nothing beyond that membership is required to justify an article. Criteria like that are easily to interpret, but even WP:NASTRO has blurry boundaries. For example, one criterion is "The object was discovered before 1850". But there are guest star events in the historical literature for which no modern observations exist. Such an object might have been a nova, a comet, a very bright meteor or an alien spaceship; it might be hard to write a good article about such a thing. So while a topic is not required to satisfy both general notability and subject-specific notability, an article on an unidentified guest star would probably need to establish general notability, even though it technically qualifies for subject-specific notability.PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. Both can be used when patrolling; subjects/topics can also be considered notable, even failing the GNG, if it otherwise meets the criteria outlined in one of the more "specific notability guidelines" (SNG) or "sport specific guidelines" (SSG) could be used. However, SNG/SSN does not superseded GNG. We seen a lot of time that subjects/topic fall under SNG/SSG but fails to meet the guidelines usually do not survive in article for deletion, unless passes a strong GNG guidelines especially for certain subjects/topics such as scholars/team sport members do not receive have enough  coverage from independent reliable sources to pass GNG. (We will discuss AfD in later assignments). Site note: Good to know that you are an expert in astronomical objects as not many editors do have that depth and breath of the knowledge. I have only reviewed 5/6 such articles so far. Cassiopeia(talk) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Specific notability guidelines
5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?

Answer: I think the subject would be considered notable. Even though the event has not occurred, it is almost certain to be extensively covered in the future. The lack of sources should not lead to the article's deletion, because even in 2019 there would probably be some press coverage of the process of awarding the event to a host city, for example. So the proper response to the appearance of such an article would be to try to find sources to add, rather than flagging the article as non-notable.PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. When a host city is announced from the press, that is considered independent reliable source (IRS) and usually this type of of announcement would be covered by many reliable press, thus the subject is considered notable. It is a good practice for reviewer to search for IRS if the reviewer familiar with the subject and know the subject most properly notable. I have done such search countless of time. When IRS are found, then add them into the article and marked review. (note: when reviewing an article, take your time, as quality over quantity at all time).<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * B.  Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below,  please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

6. A New York city based 2019 start up software company, specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.

Answer: Given only that information, I would say the company is not notable as per WP:ORGSIG.PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. For a "2019 start up" which means the company not even one year old and with only 200K capital, it would only enough for official renovation but not a business fund as such it usually fails WP:NCORP. NCORP specifies "very strict" SNG guidelines, many times, even a company pass the min GNG but fails NCORP, the article would most likely to be deleted in WP:AfD.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>)

7. Nascimento Ferreira who is a Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 8-1.

Answer:
 * Notable, as per WP:NMMA. As an unimportant side-note, I think Wikipedia's criteria for accepting articles about sports figures and teams are way too lax. But they are what they are.PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * . As this is about SSN question, we would disregard GNG criteria. WP:NMMA] states a fighter needs at least 3 fights under tier one promotion (UFC/Invica) to be considered pass [[WP:NMMA. The subject at the present state has only 2 fights under UFC, so it fails the SNG criteria. Note: It would be practical to review topics/subject that we are familiar with and not review every new page. For example, I would not review any page full of technical formulas/proves/equations in any fields/topics related to physics or mathematics for I need to go back to university again to take some advance maths to even understand the content let alone to review the articles. <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2020 and to be released on August 2022 in the cinemas.

Answer: Probably not notable, unless principle photography has begun, as per WP:NFF.PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅.Good. or production has actually begun and sources can be found to verify that for many times estimation of such undertaking could be delayed for whatever reasons.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

9. A political candidate, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2020 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.

Answer: Probably not notable, unless the local press coverage is enough to establish general notability, as per WP:POLITICIAN.PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * . Since to date was November 202 and election is always certain would be carried out as date stated and thus the results could easily be found. If the politician won the election, then they (in Wikipedia, if we do not know the gender of the subject, we use they instead of him/she) would pass WP:NPOL, however, if the article was reviewed prior to November 2020 when the election has yet to take place, then the subject would fails NPOL even they have some local coverage as local coverage would be common when a politician without campaigning for a position prior the election since the politician has no current/prior position in state level<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2019 and his songs are listed in Spotify.

Answer: Probably not notable. The only criterion this singer comes close to meeting is criterion 11 of WP:SINGER: "Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network.", but I think Spotify is so inclusive of niche content, this criterion is not met by a Spotify listing.PopePompus (talk) 03:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)


 * C. Based on  which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteriaMUSICBI#1 (if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations

11. Carlos Alós-Ferrer

Answer: Notable by reason of Criterion 8 of WP:NACADEMIC The person has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area.PopePompus (talk) 21:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. subject meets WP:NPROF #1  for being highly cited  and #8 (not 3) and chief editor of Journal of Economic Psychology . (note: do provide which SNG criteria the subject is met/not met next time).<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

12. Alistair Overeem

Answer: Notable by way of criteria 1 and 2 of WP:NMMA, also criterion 1 of WP:NKICK Fought for a world title of a major organization or promotion (K-1, WMC, ISKA, WAKO-Pro, Glory, It's Showtime, WKN, WBC Muaythai, PKA (through 1986), or WKA (through 2000)).
 * ✅ Good. Meets both WP:NMMA and WP:NKICK for criteria 1 & 2. He is also one of only two fighters to hold world titles in both MMA and K-1 kickboxing at the same time.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

13. Jennifer Lopez

Answer: Notable by criteria 2,4,5,8,10,11 and perhaps others of WP:SINGER. Notable by criteria 1 and 2 of WP:NACTOR.PopePompus ( talk) 21:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

14. Three Mile Island accident

Answer: Notable by WP:EFFECT because of the chilling effect it had on nuclear power in the US. Notable by WP:DEPTH because it was the subject of numerous books and documentaries. Probably notable by way of WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE.PopePompus (talk) 21:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. And WP:GEOSCOPE his accident gave rise to a significant of anti-nuclear protest.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>)

15. Persepolis

Answer: This is one of the world's most famous archeological sites, so of course establishing general notability for it is trivial. For SSN it's trickier, but I think it would qualify under WP:EFFECT for the effect that the 2,500 year celebration had as one of the precipitating events for the 1979 Iranian revolution. Certainly it would also qualify under the first two criteria listed in WP:NBUILD.PopePompus (talk) 21:25, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Since it is a settlement, it meets WP:GEOLAND.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

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Good day. See assignment 1 above. For all the assignments (1) Pls provide hist diffs as per diffs guidelines (2) Pls provide Wikipedia guidelines (link the guidelines) where applicable and justify/explain in details of your application or analysis in details. (3) Pls write your answer in your own words. (4) Pls ping me if you need assistance (here in this program page at the communication section of every assignment). (5) Pls bookmark this page in your computer. (6) Pls book mark this page and ping me when you have finished the assignment for me to review. Stay safe and best. Welcome to NPPS. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 01:28, 13 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Hi, if you have finished the assignment, then pls let me know so I may review it. Thank you.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 00:47, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I believe I have completed assignment #1PopePompus (talk) 01:10, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , See comments above and let me know if you have any questions or yo are ready to move on to next assignment. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 02:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments! I think I'm ready for the next assignment.PopePompus (talk) 14:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Background for trainees

 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for such content claimed should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary and answered the the below questions in your own words.


 * You could contact WP:RX if you could not find the sources yourself either on web due to Paywall content or printed books.

Exercises

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 * 4. Please explain in your own words why the content claimed needs to be verified?

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 * 5.Could we used Wikipedia as the source? and why?

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 * 6.Give an example and explain why a source is reliable but not independent of a subject?

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 * 7.Give an example and explain why a source is independent source but not reliable?

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 * Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no or "?" after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".

David Howell Petraeus (born November 7, 1952) is a retired United States Army general and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011, until his resignation on November 9, 2012 after his affair with Paula Broadwell was reported.
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Petraeus was born in Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York, the son of Sixtus Petraeus (1915–2008), a sea captain from Franeker, Netherlands.

In 2003, Petraeus commanded the 101st Airborne Division in the fall of Baghdad


 * 9. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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Martina Hingis is a Swiss former professional tennis player. She won five Grand Slam singles titles. Hingis was one of the highest-paid female athletes in 2000. She retired in November 2007 after being hampered by a hip injury for several months and testing positive for a metabolite of cocaine during that year's Wimbledon Championships, which led to a two-year suspension from the sport.
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 * 11. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" or "?" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".


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Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan. Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture." This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home.


 * 13. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA. He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation.

At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor. In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy. Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.


 * 15. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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Sonny William Williams (born 3 August 1985), who is a Muslim, is a New Zealand All blacks rugby union footballer, Williams was a Marist Saints junior when he was spotted playing in Auckland by Bulldogs talent scout John Ackland. In 2002 he was offered a contract and moved to Sydney (as the youngest player to ever sign with an NRL club) to play in the Bulldogs' junior grades.


 * 17. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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"Can't Stop This Thing We Started" is a song by Canadian singer and songwriter Bryan Adams. The song was written by Adams and Robert John "Mutt" Lange, and was the second single from Adams' 1991 album Waking Up the Neighbours where by the song was nominated for Grammy Award 1992 "Song of the Year"

Weekly charts

End-of-year charts


 * 19. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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Kamlesh Bhatt is a Solution Architect and a DevOps Engineer living in Singapore. I am a fan of technology, music, and entrepreneurship. He is interested in photography and travel. He could be reached at his blog and youtube channel.


 * 21. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * See assignment 2 above. Pls click "show" below "Source assessment table" to see the table. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 00:28, 17 February 2021 (UTC)