User:Cassiopeia/NPPS/RoboCric

Hello, welcome to your New Page Patrol School page! Every person I instruct will have their own page on which I will give them support and tasks for them to complete. Please make sure you have this page added to your watchlist. Your NPP School page has been specifically designed according to you and what you have requested instruction in - for that reason, please be as specific as possible when under my instruction, so that I know the best ways to help you (and do not be afraid to let me know if you think something isn't working).

Make sure you read through Notability as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.

This page will be built up over your time in the Academy, with new sections being added as you complete old ones. Each section will end with a task, written in bold type - this might just ask a question, or it might require you to go and do something. You can answer a question by typing the answer below the task; if you have to do something, you will need to provide diffs to demonstrate that you have completed the task. Some sections will have more than one task, sometimes additional tasks may be added to a section as you complete them. Please always sign your responses to tasks as you would on a talk page.
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Notability
 PART 1 

When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.


 * A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.

General notability guidelines
1. In your own words, why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors.

Answer: New users who come to Wikipedia naturally isn't aware of the policies by birth. It is normal that they will make mistakes in their initial stage. We should not assume that all wrong edits by new users are vandalism, bad faith or done deliberately. Rather, we should assume good faith, make them understand their faults, encourage them to make edits in accordance with the relevant policies and guidelines. RoboCric Let's chat  12:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

2. In your own words, how is notability defined in Wikipedia?

Answer: In my own words, notability is the way to determine whether an article should exist on WP or not. Only topic passing WP:N deserves to be an article on WP. RoboCric Let's chat  12:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

3. Does a step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?

Answer: No, it is not notable, it falls under WP:NOTGUIDE. RoboCric Let's chat  12:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?

Answer: GNG is the general/universal guideline for testing notability of all kinds of articles. And SNG is subject specific, or notability guidelines for individual subjects. As far as I know, while patrolling, it is only necessary to check if article meets the SNG, and if SNG is not met, then GNG. However, in some cases both need to be used. Some specific SNGs are there to predict or sort out articles which may meet GNG, but is not a guarantee (which means article must still provide sources indicating that it passes GNG). For example- WP:NSPORTS states at the top, The article should provide reliable sources showing that the subject meets the general notability guideline. and WP:SPORTCRIT also says, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. SNGs can prevent article from being quickly deleted, but sports articles (where I basically work) not meeting GNG are likely to be deleted when notability is challenged through AFD. RoboCric Let's chat  12:09, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Specific notability guidelines
5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?

Answer: Probably WP:TOOSOON and per the creator's prediction in 2019. I would first find for reliable sources including independent coverage. If I can't find any information in sources, I would draftify it. But if there are sufficient coverage in WP:RS, saying about when the event could take place (X month, X year etc), then I would consider it notable per WP:CRYSTAL and just add "unreferenced" tag on the page. RoboCric Let's chat  12:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)


 * B.  Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below,  please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

6. A New York city based 2021 start up software company, specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.

Answer:The subject would not be inherently notable as a company (WP:ORGSIG). USD 200K investor fund is addressed at WP:ORGDEPTH which states that any numerical values or facts do not contribute towards notability. RoboCric Let's chat  12:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

7. Guram Kutateladze who is a Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 12-2.

Answer: Notable per WP:NMMA (ranked in the top 10). RoboCric Let's chat  12:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2022 and to be released on August 2023 in the cinemas.

Answer: Notable per WP:NFF, since it started production.

9. A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2021 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.

Answer: If there existed SIGCOV, outside his election campaign, would contribute towards GNG, but otherwise not. Or, it should either satisfy WP:NPOL, that means- Subject winning the election but yet to assume the office. RoboCric Let's chat  12:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2020 and his songs are listed in Spotify.

Answer: Non-notable, per WP:ARTIST. Sources need to be shown which demonstrate it meets any of the criteria of that guideline. RoboCric Let's chat  12:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)


 * C. Based on  which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteriaMUSICBI#1 (if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations

11. Carlos Alós-Ferrer

Answer: Notable per WP:NACADEMICS:
 * Holds various associate and full professorships at universities
 * Editor in chief of an academic journal. RoboCric Let's chat  12:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

12. Alistair Overeem

Answer: Won various championships, so supposed to be notable per WP:MMA and WP:NKICK. RoboCric Let's chat  12:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

13. Jennifer Lopez

Answer: Meets WP:ARTIST#1 and #3, WP:ENT#1 and #2 and also WP:SINGER- appeared in many films and music media. RoboCric Let's chat  12:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

14. Three Mile Island accident

Answer: Clearly satisfies WP:NEVENT, since it is a significant nuclear incident in US history and affected a large geographical area (WP:LASTING). RoboCric Let's chat  12:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

15. Persepolis

Answer: Seems to be a populated place, with legal recognition, as confirmed by reliable sources. So, meets WP:GEOLAND. RoboCric Let's chat  12:54, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * , Good day. See assignment 1 above.
 * (1) For all the assignments, pls provide hist diffs (see Help:Diff for instructions) of the articles, reverts, edits, reports, results of the reports, talk page messages that are applicable.
 * (2) Pls provide guidelines where applicable and justify/explain in details of your application or analysis.
 * (3) Pls ping me if you need assistance (here in this program page at the communication section of every assignment).
 * (4) Please book mark this page and ping me when you have finished the assignment for me to review.
 * (5) If you need to take a break from editing Wikipedia for more than 2 weeks, pls inform me so I may know. If you Stay safe and best. Welcome to NPPS. Cassiopeia  talk
 * I have completed the assignment. Robo<sup style="color:#707">Cric Let's chat  12:56, 26 April 2023 (UTC)


 * , Thank you for answering the questions. However, I dont think you really read the material/links but copy and paste the answers from other participants. Participant should really want to learn and not just getting short cut of go through the program as you will not really understand the material and that defeat the purpose of joining the program in the first place. For such, I would not be your trainer here on.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  03:06, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:AGF. What made you believe that I copy-pasted? Maybe, because of the timestamp, but note when I answered each section, I gave signatures altogether and published at a time, that's why maybe it appears like that to you. But, I didn't copy-paste the answers from other participants, of course. Robo<sup style="color:#707">Cric Let's chat  06:25, 27 April 2023 (UTC)