User:Cassiopeia/NPPS/TechnoSquirrel69

Hello, welcome to your New Page Patrol School page! Every person I instruct will have their own page on which I will give them support and tasks for them to complete. Please make sure you have this page added to your watchlist. Your NPP School page has been specifically designed according to you and what you have requested instruction in - for that reason, please be as specific as possible when under my instruction, so that I know the best ways to help you (and do not be afraid to let me know if you think something isn't working).

Make sure you read through Notability as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.

This page will be built up over your time in the Academy, with new sections being added as you complete old ones. Each section will end with a task, written in bold type - this might just ask a question, or it might require you to go and do something. You can answer a question by typing the answer below the task; if you have to do something, you will need to provide diffs to demonstrate that you have completed the task. Some sections will have more than one task, sometimes additional tasks may be added to a section as you complete them. Please always sign your responses to tasks as you would on a talk page.
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Notability
 PART 1 

When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.


 * A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.

General notability guidelines
1. In your own words, why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors.

Answer: Wikipedia can sometimes be a confusing place to newcomers — I would know, as I sometimes still face that confusion myself. When it comes to dealing with edits made by newbies, I try not to attribute to malice what can easily be explained by ignorance. A gentle nudge towards a relevant policy or guideline is sometimes all that's needed to correct disruptive behavior, as most editors have more or less the same goal: improving the encyclopedia. Maintaining a patient and helpful temperament when talking to people who are still gaining experience is vital to editor retention; if the more experienced users bite the newer editors, eventually there will be no editors left. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅. Cassiopeia  talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

2. In your own words, how is notability defined in Wikipedia?

Answer: It's beyond impractical to guarantee an article for every conceivable topic, as that set is likely infinite. Wikipedia needs a threshold by which trivial or unenclopedic topics can be excluded. For the most part, that threshold is set by the breadth of coverage in reliable sources — if ten different newspapers are discussing a topic, then Wikipedia will probably benefit from discussing it too. That being said, there are lots of things for which references to reliable sources can be found that will still be unable to fit the style of an encyclopedic article, which is why WP:NOT exists. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅. (pls note not only the sources need be reliable but also independent) In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list if (1) it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent from the subject where by the sources talk "directly" about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2) it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy. Cassiopeia  talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

3. Does a step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?

Answer: As I mentioned above, it certainly could be considered purely notable, but this sounds like a clear WP:NOTHOWTO violation to me, and will likely be taken to AfD very quickly. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅. Cassiopeia  talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?

Answer: If there is a subject-specific guideline that is clearly meant for application on the article's subject (like WP:NACADEMIC on a professor's article, for example), then that guideline should be used. A lot of these guidelines mention whether they can be used in conjunction with WP:GNG, or whether GNG takes precedence over the specific guideline in a notability discussion. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)


 * . SNG (specific notability guidelines) and SSG (Sport specific guidelines) do not override GNG- this means that if a sport person fails certain SNG but for other reason do have enough IRS (intendent, reliable sources) to support the subject, then the subject would considered passing Wikipedia GNG guidelines. GNG Example: certain subjects would not meet GNG due to the fact that no article talk about them directly in length and in depth such the academics- WP:PROF - who would received few or none independence source talk about them (we would see BBC write an article about car stuck in a tree see here but not the President of Australian National University would be hard to find.  Other SGN such as  WP:NASTRO specify a very strict set of source criteria and requirements respectively. Many times when a subject fails GNG and the article is nominated for AfD (Article for deletion) but pass SSN/SGN with verifiable sources, the article would usually closed as a keep. Cassiopeia   talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Specific notability guidelines
5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?

Answer: Without even considering the notability or state of the article, this seems to me like a WP:TOOSOON issue right off the bat. The Olympics are without a doubt notable enough for inclusion on Wikipedia, and in 2019 perhaps even the 2024 Olympics had enough coverage in sources to pass WP:GNG or maybe WP:NSPORTSEVENT. However, absent these sources, this hypothetical article would probably be making a quick trip to AfD. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:50, 12 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅. For such long standing events, sources should be readily available as event of such would be planned 8 years ahead. If there are no sources or only a few sources included, we as the reviewers, can find source for the article as a good will and place the citation in the article so the article is accepted in the mains pace instead of AfD it.09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


 * B.  Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below,  please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

6. A New York city based 2021 start up software company, specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.

Answer: Should probably be assessed using WP:NCORP, which more or less defers to GNG for its selection criteria, and doesn't presume any organization or company to be notable by default. Would need to do a source analysis to determine notability. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:50, 12 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Without consideration of sources, this topic does not meet NCORP. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:16, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅. Subject does not meet NCORP. Cassiopeia  talk  03:57, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

7. Guram Kutateladze is a mixed martial arts fighter who fights under Ultimate Fighting Championships with a record MMA record of 12-4.

Answer: Notability should be determined using WP:NMMA, which presumes athletes to be notable if they are in the global top 10 in their category. In this case, the subject-specific guideline does not cover the article's subject. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:50, 12 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅. Subject does not meet NMMA for he has not been ranked top 10 in Fight Matrix or Sherdog ranking. Cassiopeia   talk  03:57, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2022 and to be released on August 2023 in the cinemas.

Answer: WP:NFF makes it clear that an unreleased film does not merit an article if it has not entered its principal photography stage, and even then seems to defer to GNG for the decision of inclusion. I'd need more information to assess this situation. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:50, 12 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Without considering the presence of sources, this topic does not meet NFF. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:16, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅. Subject does not meet NFF for not having its principal photography stage. Cassiopeia  talk  03:57, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

9. A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2021 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.

Answer: Passes WP:NPOL, and most likely GNG. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:50, 12 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Meets criterion 2 of NPOL. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:16, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Generally speaking, local newspapers (unless the newspapers is also considered National newspaper such as Sydney Moring Herald and etc.) do not qualify as sources required for a unelected politician. Cassiopeia  talk  03:57, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2020 and his songs are listed in Spotify.

Answer: Does not pass WP:MN absent coverage in reliable sources. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:50, 12 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  03:57, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


 * C. Based on  which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteriaMUSICBI#1 (if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations

11. Carlos Alós-Ferrer

Answer: Passes WP:NACADEMIC through criterion 8. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * The subject meets WP:NPROF #1 - see for being highly cited  and #8  as the chief editor of Journal of Economic Psychology .<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>   talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

12. Alistair Overeem

Answer: Seems to have ranked sixth in their weight class in 2021, which passes WP:NMMA. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * . Meets both WP:NMMA and WP:NKICK for criteria 1 & 2. He is also one of only two fighters to hold world titles in both MMA and K-1 kickboxing at the same time.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

13. Jennifer Lopez

Answer: Passes multiple criteria of WP:MN. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Lopez meets at least criteria 1, 2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, and 12. She also meets criterion 1 of WP:NACTOR. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:31, 16 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

14. Three Mile Island accident

Answer: Meets WP:NEVENTS criteria 1 and 2. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

15. Persepolis

Answer: Passes WP:NPLACE, and has additional claims to notability as a result of the city's history. As far as I know, though, the latter part isn't covered by a subject-specific guideline. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:27, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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Good day. See assignment 1 above. (1) For all the assignments, pls provide hist diffs (see Help:Diff for instructions) of the articles, reverts, edits, reports, results of the reports, talk page messages that are applicable. (2) Pls provide guidelines where applicable and justify/explain in details of your application or analysis. (3) Pls ping me if you need assistance (here in this program page at the communication section of every assignment). (4) Please book mark this page and ping me when you have finished the assignment for me to review. (5) If you need to take a break from editing Wikipedia for more than 2 weeks, pls inform me so I may know. If you Stay safe and best. Welcome to NPPS.

<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  04:11, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey Cassiopeia! All done with these sections, and ready to move forward to the next ones whenever you are. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 06:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * pls specify the criteria (not state multiple) on Section B Q13. let me know when you have answered it again.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  02:09, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cassiopeia: Sorry, I should have been more specific. I've added the criteria which I could find are met. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:32, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Cassiopeia? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, I have reviewed Part A and C. for Part B, besides stating which SGN/SSN, pls state if the subject as per descriptions  meet the guidelines. When you finished adding the info, then pls ping me. <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>   talk  09:29, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cassiopeia: I've gone in and added more specific answers to the questions. I'll admit that I wasn't able to think of how to provide more detail on some of the examples, and just left those as they were. Let me know what you think! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 02:20, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * See comments above and pls let me know if you have any questions or you are ready to move on to the next assignment.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  03:57, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Cassiopeia: Read all of your comments and good to keep going! Sorry about the repeated clarifications that were necessary for this first section; I'll try to be much more specific with my responses moving forward. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 04:01, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

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Background for trainees

 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for such content claimed should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary and answered the the below questions in your own words.


 * You could contact WP:RX if you could not find the sources yourself either on web due to Paywall content or printed books.

Exercises

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✅ —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:30, 23 September 2023 (UTC)


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 * 4. Please explain in your own words why the content claimed needs to be verified?

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 * 5.Could we used Wikipedia as the source? and why?

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 * 6.Give an example and explain why a source is reliable but not independent of a subject?

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 * 7.Give an example and explain why a source is independent source but not reliable?

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 * Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no or "?" after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".

Example Article about Bill Gates

Martina Hingis is a Swiss former professional tennis player. She won five Grand Slam singles titles. Hingis was one of the highest-paid female athletes in 2000. She retired in November 2007 after being hampered by a hip injury for several months and testing positive for a metabolite of cocaine during that year's Wimbledon Championships, which led to a two-year suspension from the sport.
 * 8. Hingis RG16 (10) (27331857371).jpg


 * 11. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" or "?" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".

Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan. Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture." This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home.
 * 12. Wrightfallingwater.jpg, Mill Run, Pennsylvania (1937)]]


 * 13. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA. He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation.
 * 14. Phoenix King.jpg

At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor. In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy. Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.


 * 15. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * 16. Bryan Adams Guadalajara 2006 dsc02642.jpg

"Can't Stop This Thing We Started" is a song by Canadian singer and songwriter Bryan Adams. The song was written by Adams and Robert John "Mutt" Lange, and was the second single from Adams' 1991 album Waking Up the Neighbours where by the song was nominated for Grammy Award 1992 "Song of the Year"

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 * 19. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * 20.Kamlesh Bhatt is a Solution Architect and a DevOps Engineer living in Singapore. I am a fan of technology, music, and entrepreneurship. He is interested in photography and travel. He could be reached at his blog and youtube channel.


 * 21. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * See assignment 2 above. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  04:15, 23 September 2023 (UTC)