User:Cassiopeia/NPPS/Thanoscar21

Hello, welcome to your New Page Patrol School page! Every person I instruct will have their own page on which I will give them support and tasks for them to complete. Please make sure you have this page added to your watchlist. Your NPP School page has been specifically designed according to you and what you have requested instruction in - for that reason, please be as specific as possible when under my instruction, so that I know the best ways to help you (and do not be afraid to let me know if you think something isn't working).

Make sure you read through Notability as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.

This page will be built up over your time in the Academy, with new sections being added as you complete old ones. Each section will end with a task, written in bold type - this might just ask a question, or it might require you to go and do something. You can answer a question by typing the answer below the task; if you have to do something, you will need to provide diffs to demonstrate that you have completed the task. Some sections will have more than one task, sometimes additional tasks may be added to a section as you complete them. Please always sign your responses to tasks as you would on a talk page.
 * How to use this page

If both the instructor and student make completing the course curriculum a top priority, it will generally take around a month to go through the entirety of the curriculum. This pace is not required or necessarily expected, but rather is provided in order to give participants an idea of what to expect.

Notability
 PART 1 

When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.


 * A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.

General notability guidelines
1. In your own words, why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors.

Answer: Most people on Wikipedia are trying to help, not hurt. If we bite a newcomer, then they might stop editing, and Wikipedia will be deprived of one constructive editor.
 * ✅ New editors make mistakes or breach Wikipedia policy in most cases is because due to their lack of knowledge on what is appropriate and not because they intend to do harm. We should always help the new editors who want to provide good contribution and want to improve Wikipedia even at time they might not know the the Wikipedia guidelines. Cassiopeia(talk) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

2. In your own words, how does notability is defined in Wikipedia?

Answer: A test to see if something deserves its own article.
 * In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list if  (1)  it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject whee by the sources talk "directly"  about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2)  it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy. You need to read the entire links/guidelines every single time when a link/guideline is provided to you. Cassiopeia(talk) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

3. Does a step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?

Answer: No, Wikipedia is not a manual, but an encyclopedia. See WP:NOTHOWTO.
 * ✅. Wikipedia allows descriptions of things but not imperative instructions on how to use them.  Cassiopeia(talk) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?

Answer: A GNG is just that it has reliable, independent coverage. A specific notability guideline is specific for a place — if it's a town of 15 people, then it's notable, though it'll probably only be a stub. It's sorted by topic — when patrolling new pages, a music article would be based on Notability (music).
 * . SNG is not specific for a place only. Pls try to answer again. Cassiopeia(talk)
 * Answer again: A GNG is just that it has reliable, independent coverage. A specific notability guideline is specific for a topic. One example is a town of 15 people, then it's notable, though it'll probably only be a stub. The SNGs are sorted by topic — when patrolling new pages, a music article would be based on Notability (music).
 * . GNG are used for all the articles posted on WIkipedia regardless of the topic. Specific guidelines offer a more in-depth criteria for different topics. When patrolling an article we should first check if it complies with GNG, if it fails, it's important to check SNG to see if the subject meets the SNG.

. Both can be used when patrolling but those subject falls under SNG/SSG (sport specific guidelines) but fails to meet the WP:GNG guidelines would sometimes nominated for deleteion WP:AfD for discussion to determine the status of the article. (We will cover AfD in later assignment).<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 08:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Specific notability guidelines
5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?

Answer: No, WP:CRYSTAL, though WIkipedia has an article about it since it meets the WP:GNG.
 * If you came across this article, I would do a Google search to see if any reliable sources come up. If they do, then add the sources into the page to meet notability guidelines. If none come up, then it would consider not notable. We dont simply consider a subject is not notable because the article does not have a source. If you simply just search it on the web, you would notice the subject is considered notable as  1. it had widespread effect as an international event, 2. it has already been written about in independent sources.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * B.  Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below,  please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

6. A New York city based 2019 start up software company, specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.

Answer: No, because investors count as related people, so it needs to have multiple WP:RS covering it, or the WP:GNG. Investors are not independent, and any major RS would not carry such a small news item.
 * . Pls read part B again and answer the question.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Answer again:

7. Nascimento Ferreira who is a Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 8-0.

Answer: Yes, because he has fought more than the required three games, and he's "fought for the highest title of a top-tier MMA organization". The criterion are at WP:NMMA.
 * . Pls explain how you apply WP:NMMA guidelines in your answer "fought for the highest title of a top-tier MMA organization"<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Answer again: Since he's in the UFC, the highest title would be like the UFC heavyweight title.
 * , If you look at his fight here, he just fought only one fight under UFC. As per WP:MMABIO, a MMA fighter needs to fought at least 3 fights under tier one promotion (UFC or Invicta) to meet the WP:NMMA

8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2020 and to be released on August 2022 in the cinemas.

Answer: No, because it has not started filming principal photography, and there likely will not be any RS covering it. See WP:NFILM.
 * ✅. If the production is on the way, but no RS covering it, it is still considered not meeting WP:NFILM.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

9. A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2020 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.

Answer: No, but he can still have an article if he meets the WP:GNG, as per WP:NPOLITICIAN.
 * ✅. pls elaborate you answer.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Answer again: Local coverage doesn't immediately qualify, but he may still have an article if he gets the criteria in WP:GNG.
 * he subject is notable under (1) [WP:NPOL|POLITICIAN#2]].<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 08:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2019 and his songs are listed in Spotify.

Answer: Yes, because he has been listed in a major radio, which meets WP:NMG.
 * Pls provide the subset criteria and read the whole page of WP:NMG.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Answer again: WP:NALBUM.
 * Subject fails all WP:SINGER.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 08:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)


 * C. Based on  which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteriaMUSICBI#1 (if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations

11. Carlos Alós-Ferrer

Answer: Yes, WP:NACADEMIC number 8. He qualifies as he's the editor in chief of Journal of Economic Psychology.
 * ✅ subject meets two subset criteria - Meets WP:NPROF #1 for being highly cited  and #8 (not 3) and chief editor of Journal of Economic Psychology .<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

12. Alistair Overeem

Answer: Yes, both #1 and #2 of WP:NMMA. He has played 8 games, surpassing the three games, and he has "fought for the highest title of a top-tier MMA organization".
 * ✅ He meets two SNG - WP:NKICK - criterion 1, 2 and WP:NMMA - criterion 1, 2.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

13. Jennifer Lopez

Answer: Yes, qualifies many of the criterion in WP:SINGER. She's been in "multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." She's had a record certified gold, been on a national chart
 * She meets two SNG - Pls provide the second SNG that she meets.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Answer again: In [[WP:COMPOSER].
 * . The subject is notable (1) under SINGER#1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #8, #11, #12] and [[WP:NACTOR|NACTOR#1, #2, #3.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 08:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

14. Three Mile Island accident

Answer: Yes, WP:LASTING, WP:GEOSCOPE, and WP:DEPTH. It has ramifications such as public sentiment against nuclear power in the US, impacted many people, and has significant coverage from many Wikipedia:RS.
 * ✅. Meeting WP:EVENTCRIT - 1, 2 and WP:EFFECT.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

15. Persepolis

Answer: Yes, WP:GEOLAND. It qualifies "because notability encompasses their entire history".
 * ✅. Populated as a historical city of its civilizations.

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Good day. See assignment on above. For all the assignments, pls provide hist diffs of the articles, reverts, edits, reports, results of the reports, guidilines, talk page messages, and any hist diff that is applicable. Pls provide guidelines where applicable and justify/explain your application or analysis. Pls ping me if you need assistance (here in this program page at the communication section of every assignment). Please book mark this page and ping me when you have finsihed the assignment for me to review.Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 04:28, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Good day to you, too, . I've finished the assignment. Thank you, Thanoscar21talk, contribs 22:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)


 * , Please read my previous message above and "For all the assignments, pls provide hist diffs of the articles, reverts, edits, reports, results of the reports, guidelines, talk page messages, and any hist diff that is applicable. Pls provide guidelines where applicable and justify/explain your application or analysis in details." Kindly rework and ping me when you are finished. Thank you.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 00:59, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've answered. Please tell me if I need more detail. Thank you, Thanoscar21talk, contribs 22:15, 25 July 2020 (UTC)


 * , Pls do the rework the following answer below and reread the links/guidlines provided.
 * Please read WP:N again and rework question #2.
 * Please provide guideline link for answer #3.
 * Question #4 is 3 part question. Pls aanswer all the parts.
 * Please re-read Part B again and rework anwer #6-8 and #10
 * Thank you.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:20, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , finished. Thanks, Thanoscar21talk, contribs 22:49, 27 July 2020 (UTC)


 * , (1) See comment above. (2) You need to read the entire links/guidelines every single time when a link/guideline is provided to you for I dont think you read them all from your answers. (3) Explain and justify how you apply the guidelines in your answer and not only pointed to the guideline itself.

(4) Pls answer the question 4, 6, 7, 9, 10 and 1 3 again. (5) Pls read the questions carefully as some of the questions have a few parts to answer (6) Pls also read the article links provide (who page) for the subject would notable/apply for a few guidelines. (7) Take your time to read the reading material for this program is a lot harder and complicated that of CUVA and answers are expected to be more elaborate (explain how you apply the guidelines and provide sub set criteria, links and hist diffs where necessary. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 09:44, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, forgot to ping yesterday. Thanks, Thanoscar21talk, contribs 21:35, 30 July 2020 (UTC)


 * , I somehow missed your ping. I have reviewed 4, 7, 9, 10 and 13 and you missed q 6. I am not sure you are ready to work on the program, for if you have read the link provided, you would able to get the answers. However, even many tries, you seem to rush out the answer but actually wanted to learn and study the material provided. This is one of the easiest assignment in the program and if you continues not to ready the material, you would face many roadblocks ahead.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FA0"> Cassiopeia</b>(<b style="#0000FF">talk</b>) 08:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)