User:Cassiopeia/NPPSchool/Rob3512

Hello, welcome to your New Page Patrol School page! Every person I instruct will have their own page on which I will give them support and tasks for them to complete. Please make sure you have this page added to your watchlist. Your NPP School page has been specifically designed according to you and what you have requested instruction in - for that reason, please be as specific as possible when under my instruction, so that I know the best ways to help you (and do not be afraid to let me know if you think something isn't working).

Make sure you read through Notability as that's the knowledge which most of the questions I ask you and tasks you do will revolve around.

This page will be built up over your time in the Academy, with new sections being added as you complete old ones. Each section will end with a task, written in bold type - this might just ask a question, or it might require you to go and do something. You can answer a question by typing the answer below the task; if you have to do something, you will need to provide diffs to demonstrate that you have completed the task. Some sections will have more than one task, sometimes additional tasks may be added to a section as you complete them. Please always sign your responses to tasks as you would on a talk page.
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Notability
 PART 1 

When patrolling or reviewing an article, you may often come across articles do not meet the WP:N guidelines, but the editors make the edits in good faith. Please read WP:AGF and do not WP:BITE the new editors.


 * A. Notability is a test guidelines to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article in Wikipedia mainspace. Please read What Wikipedia is not, General Notability Guidelines, Specific Notability Guidelines, Stand-alone list before completing the following tasks.

General notability guidelines
1. In your own words, why it is important to WP:AGF and not WP:BITE new editors.

Answer: Where a dispute arises, it is better to open discussion channels to de-escalate the situation rather than immediately assuming they are a vandal or disruptive editor. This helps to keep wikipedia welcoming, especially towards new editors who may not yet be aware of many policies. Biting new editors may convince them that wikipedia is not worth the effort of learning, and drive away what could be potentially valuable contributors and subject matter experts. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 02:25, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cassiopeia  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

2. In your own words, how is notability defined in Wikipedia?

Answer: Notability is a check to see whether a given article's subject is able to pass wikipedia's general or specific notability guidelines, whether it is grouped under the list of items that are not allowed on wikipedia, and whether it has reliable and verifiable sources to back it up. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 02:25, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * . In Wikipedia, notability means "worthy to be noted" - it is defined as a topic is "presumably" notable for stand-alone article or list if (1) it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject where by the sources talk "directly" about the subject in depth and in length and not only passing mentioned and (2) it is not excluded under the What WP:Wikipedia is not policy. Cassiopeia  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

3. Does a step by step instructions on how to "Change a car tire" considered a notable topic in Wikipedia?

Answer: It would not be considered a notable topic, as it fails the "what wikipedia is not" check, specifically, this section that explains that wikipedia is not a tutorial or guide. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 02:25, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Right as Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a how to manual site. Cassiopeia  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

4. What are the differences between A WP:GNG and a specific notability guidelines? how do we determine which one to use when patrolling an article?

Answer: GNGs are a set of broadly defined criteria that apply to all topics and subjects. SNGs are a much narrower and more nuanced criteria that only apply to topics and subjects within its field.

GNGs should be used when first encountering a new article or when a relevant SNG does not exist. SNGs should then be used after the article appears to pass GNG, as SNG may have differing requirements to GNG and be more suited for specialised subjects such as academics, mass media, publications etc Rob3512  ( Talk ) 02:25, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Both can be used to review an article; however SNG/SSG do not superseded GNG. Also, certain subjects would not meet GNG due to the fact that no article talk about them directly in length and in dept such the academics- WP:PROF - who would received few or none independence source talk about them (we would see BBC write an article about car stuck in a tree see here but not the President of Australian National University would be hard to find)  Other SGN such as  WP:NPOL specify a very strict set of source criteria and requirements respectively. Cassiopeia   talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Specific notability guidelines
5. If an editor creates an article about "2024 Summer Olympics" in 2019 without providing any sources, is the subject considered not notable and why?

Answer: The subject would still be considered notable, per WP:NOLY and the exception at WP:CRYSTAL which states that events which are confirmed and have speculation that is well-documented are generally considered notable. However, as the article in question lacks any sources, it may still be deleted or substantially edited to comply with WP:RS, even though the subject passes notability. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 06:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * . Host nation is usually be selected 8 years prior the event, for such there are plenty of independent, reliable sources (IRS) could be found about the subject. It would be a good practice as a reviewer, if you are familiar with the subject, to find sources (3-5 IRS (independent, reliable sources) and add them in to the new page instead of just tagging "unsecured template" into the page. I have done that many times to turn an unsourced article to sourced / notable articles in Wikipedia. Cassiopeia   talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * B.  Without considered of sources/content policies and review just based on "subject specific notability" (SSN) "alone" for sake of the exercises below,  please answer if the subject meets the SSN guidelines, based on the given content below, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

6. A New York city based 2021 start up software company, specializing in data mining, has just received a USD 200K investor fund.

Answer: The subject would not be  inherently notable as a company, in particular, the "USD 200K investor fund" is addressed at WP:ORGDEPTH which states that any numerical values or facts do not by themselves make a subject notable. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 06:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cassiopeia  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

7. Guram Kutateladze who is a Ultimate Fighting Championships fighters with the undefeated mixed martial arts record of 12-2.

Answer: Per the specific requirements of MMA notability, this subject would not be notable, as they are not ranked in the top 10 for Sherdog. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 06:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cassiopeia  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

8. A upcoming action drama title "Suleiman the Great" based on the the life of Suleiman the Magnificent, was reported will be in production in December 2022 and to be released on August 2023 in the cinemas.

Answer: Per the specific requirements of future film notability, this subject would not be notable currently, as it has not started production. However, this notability may change in future as the film progresses through production, post-production and release. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 06:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅. Cassiopeia  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

9. A political candidates, without any previous or current political position, who is running for November 2021 election for a Senator position in United States with multiple local newspapers coverage of his candidacy.

Answer: This subject may be notable per the requirements of politician notability, depending on how significant the coverage is of him by local newspapers and whether there are other coverage by national news. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 06:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * . Fails NPOL. Most politician would have some coverage during their campaign for the position. We would accept the article if the subject has "won" the election but yet to assume the office.  If significant coverage by federal/local news (IRS) covered him outside his campaign would assume he pass GNG.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>   talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

10. A singer who self produced his first album in May 2020 and his songs are listed in Spotify.

Answer: This subject would not be notable per the requirements of artiste notability as they have not demonstrated that they meet any of the inclusion criteria there. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 06:08, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * C. Based on  which SSN guidelines the below subjects are notable under (1) which notability criteria example - MUSICBI#1 (if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations

11. Carlos Alós-Ferrer

Answer: This subject is notable as defined by the academics notability guidelines, specifically as the subject held and holds various associate and full professorships at various universities, and is also the editor-in-chief of an academic journal. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 09:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Pls provide the specific criteria - read part C again.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Answer again: Specific criteria (1) and (8) apply. Rob3512  ( Talk  ·  C ) 15:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Criteria 8 - the editor-in-chief of an academic journal is correct but how does criteria 1 being met? as you mentioned above that "specifically as the subject held and holds various associate and full professorships at various universities"  but under WP:NPOL, it states criteria as "The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources."
 * Answer again: On closer look criterion 1 has not been met. Rob3512  ( Talk  ·  C ) 10:39, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


 * OK. {{yellow tick}.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  23:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

12. Alistair Overeem

Answer: This subject is notable as defined by the MMA and kickboxing notability criteria, holding various championships in both kickboxing and MMA. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 09:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

13. Jennifer Lopez

Answer: This subject is notable as defined by the artiste and entertainer notability guidelines as an entertainer, singer and actor who has had numerous appearances in film and music media. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 09:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Pls provide the specific criteria - read part C again.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Answer again: For artiste notability, criteria (1) and (3) apply, for entertainer notability, criterion (1) applies. Rob3512  ( Talk  ·  C ) 15:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * , For entertainer Both criteria 1 and 2;  and subject also passes WP:SINGER - almost all criteria.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>   talk  21:50, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

14. Three Mile Island accident

Answer: This subject is notable per the events notability guidelines as the most significant nuclear accident in US history, and served as a catalyst for new nuclear regulations, as well as having a large geographical area of effect. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 09:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

15. Persepolis

Answer: This subject is notable per the geographical notability guidelines, as it is the ceremonial capital of an ancient empire with historical significance. Rob3512 ( Talk ) 09:26, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Good day. See assignment 1 above.
 * (1) For all the assignments, pls provide hist diffs (see Help:Diff for instructions) of the articles, reverts, edits, reports, results of the reports, talk page messages that are applicable.
 * (2) Pls provide guidelines where applicable and justify/explain in details of your application or analysis.
 * (3) Pls ping me if you need assistance (here in this program page at the communication section of every assignment).
 * (4) Please book mark this page and ping me when you have finished the assignment for me to review.
 * (5) If you need to take a break from editing Wikipedia for more than 2 weeks, pls inform me so I may know. If you Stay safe and best. Welcome to NPPS.
 * <b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:33, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Rob3512 ( Talk ) 09:42, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Pls see comments and answer Q10 and Q11 again. Ping when you have finished. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  01:36, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Complete. Rob3512  ( Talk  ·  C ) 15:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC)


 * , Pls answer again for part C Q11. Carlos Alós-Ferrer and when you have done pls ping me on Assignment 1 communication section. I will post Assignment 2 for you below. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>   talk  21:50, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Background for trainees

 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for such content claimed should be supported by independent (secondary), reliable sources for verification. Please read WP:RS, WP:IS, WP:RSP, WP:V, WP:PROVEIT, WP:Primary, WP:Secondary, and WP:Tertiary and answered the the below questions in your own words.


 * You could contact WP:RX if you could not find the sources yourself either on web due to Paywall content or printed books.

Exercises

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Answer:
 * 4. Please explain in your own words why the content claimed needs to be verified?

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 * 5.Could we used Wikipedia as the source? and why?

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 * 6.Give an example and explain why a source is reliable but not independent of a subject?

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 * 7.Give an example and explain why a source is independent source but not reliable?

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 * Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" for no or "?" after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".

Example Article about Bill Gates

David Howell Petraeus (born November 7, 1952) is a retired United States Army general and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011, until his resignation on November 9, 2012 after his affair with Paula Broadwell was reported.
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Petraeus was born in Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York, the son of Sixtus Petraeus (1915–2008), a sea captain from Franeker, Netherlands.

In 2003, Petraeus commanded the 101st Airborne Division in the fall of Baghdad


 * 9. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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Martina Hingis is a Swiss former professional tennis player. She won five Grand Slam singles titles. Hingis was one of the highest-paid female athletes in 2000. She retired in November 2007 after being hampered by a hip injury for several months and testing positive for a metabolite of cocaine during that year's Wimbledon Championships, which led to a two-year suspension from the sport.
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 * 11. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * Pls indicate "y" for yes or "n" or "?" for no after "ind", "rel" and "sig" (see first example) and give a brief explanation of why you place "y" or "n".


 * 12.

Frank Lloyd Wright (June 8, 1867 – April 9, 1959) was an American architect, interior designer, writer, and educator. Wright believed in designing structures that were in harmony with humanity and its environment, a philosophy he called organic architecture. His creative period spanned more than 70 years. He works includes The Guggenheim, swirling, snail-shaped museum in the middle of Manhattan. Fallingwater, which has been called "the best all-time work of American architecture." This is one of Wright's most famous private residences (completed 1937), was built for Mr. and Mrs. Edgar J. Kaufmann, Sr., at Mill Run, Pennsylvania. Constructed over a 30-foot waterfall, it was designed according to Wright's desire to place the occupants close to the natural surroundings. The house was intended to be more of a family getaway, rather than a live-in home.


 * 13. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * 14.

Jordan Lennon (born February 22, 2000), is a British film producer and actor. Lennon is currently a member of BAFTA. He continues to work aside 20th Century Fox, Warner Bros, Wicked Wales, Capture Studios, Cineworld, Paramount Pictures, and Rockefeller Foundation.

At age 16, the Vice President of 20th Century Fox, Paul Higginson. Who previously worked on Star Wars, Titanic, and Independence Day took on Jordan and Rowan Snow as a mentor. In December 2018, Jordan and Rowan finished British Film Academy. Jordan lived in Skelmersdale for 10 years before moving to Rhyl, North Wales. He's currently writing 'Stranger in the Night' scrreenplay for Warner Brothers.


 * 15. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * 16.



Sonny William Williams (born 3 August 1985), who is a Muslim, is a New Zealand All blacks rugby union footballer, Williams was a Marist Saints junior when he was spotted playing in Auckland by Bulldogs talent scout John Ackland. In 2002 he was offered a contract and moved to Sydney (as the youngest player to ever sign with an NRL club) to play in the Bulldogs' junior grades.


 * 17. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * 18.



"Can't Stop This Thing We Started" is a song by Canadian singer and songwriter Bryan Adams. The song was written by Adams and Robert John "Mutt" Lange, and was the second single from Adams' 1991 album Waking Up the Neighbours where by the song was nominated for Grammy Award 1992 "Song of the Year"

Weekly charts


 * 19. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * 20.

Kamlesh Bhatt is a Solution Architect and a DevOps Engineer living in Singapore. I am a fan of technology, music, and entrepreneurship. He is interested in photography and travel. He could be reached at his blog and youtube channel.


 * 21. Please answer if the subject meets the "subject specific notability" guidelines, Which subject specific  notability based on the given content above, and specify under (1) which notability criteria they meet or fail (example - MUSICBI#1 if certain sub set of criteria is applicable) and (2) reasons/explanations.

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 * See Assingment 2 above. Stay safe and best.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  21:52, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Let me know if you need any help on assignment 2.<b style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:105%;color:#FF8000"> Cassiopeia</b>  talk  23:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC)