User:Clariosophic/Archive1

User:Clariosophic/Archive1 (Year 2007)

Euphradian Society
Hey there, I placed a tag which concerns the notability of the article you recently created, Euphradian Society. The reason I placed this tag is because you have not given Reliable Sources and have not satisfied the Notability Guidelines of wikipedia. First of all I thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia, however, what I would like to see from you is the placement of sources and information which asserts the notability of the article. For information on citing sources see WP:CITE. I look forward to seeing your future contributions. If you have any questions or need any help simply place, and a question, on this page, or simply contact me on my talk page with a question or any concerns you may have. Thanks and Happy Editting. ScorpO 01:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'm ready to just delete this article. It's very late here and I'm frustrated because. I tried to enter an reference, but it doesn't come out right, I'm just too tired to try to write this article. clariosophic 02:32, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I've requested it be deleted for you per CSD G6. R Parlate Contribs@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:58, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

(hangon) Please don't delete. I was very tired last night. I've gotten the reference added and am ready to continue with the article if you will give me a chance. clariosophic 09:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Episcopal Diocese of Southeast Florida
Clariospohic, I redirected the old article to the correct one.

Thanks for pointing it out. Rockhopper10r 02:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Jupiter Inlet
I certainly did not intend to place the Jupiter Inlet in Martin County. It appears that I edited the wrong version when I fixed some links, accidentally reverting your edits. -- Donald Albury 22:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

RE: Thanks for Patrolling Nantucket
You are welcome, thank you for letting me know, i will keep my eye on the pages you mentioned. If you need any help with vandals please feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Tiptoety 04:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Newton people
Please see my talk page for reply to your recent message. Best regards. Hertz1888 18:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Mary Baker Eddy
Hi, your auto biography is so interesting. Thanks for any insight you give to the Mary Baker Eddy site! simplywater —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.56.23.216 (talk) 21:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Lists
I'm slowly trying to sort all those lists so the entire category isn't under L. I just haven't gotten to all of them, but please don't put this back under L again. Shsilver 19:41, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks.Shsilver 19:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Anglicanism
I saw your question about an ECUSA wikiproject and I thought I would invite you to join the WikiProject focussing on Anglicanism and the Anglican Communion: WikiProject Anglicanism. Our goal is to improve and expand Anglican-reltaed articles. If you are interested, read over the project page and consider signing up. Cheers! SECisek 21:49, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Just saw you have the user box. I did not see your name on the Participants page? -- SECisek 18:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Georgia
No problem - and what a beautiful cat you have! Very like my old Tabby (sadly no longer with us). DuncanHill 14:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I added info on the Episcopal Diocese of Georgia, but am new to formatting for Wiki. I know the information is accurate. I would appreciate a look at Wiki style. -Frank —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.130.79.235 (talk) 03:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

University of South Carolina
Why did you change the type of institution in the infobox from Flagship state university to Public university? University of Texas at Austin, Texas A&M University, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, University of Missouri–Columbia all are similar institutions and list it that way. I thought that user 129.252.180.96 made the correct change. Your thoughts? By the way, thanks for your contributions to Carolina. Gamecock 17:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I looked at the other schools you cited and decided it was OK, so I put it back. I had thought it was just gilding the lily, but I see your point that it is a valid type. clariosophic 18:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Are the Clariosophic Society and Euphradian Society still active at USC? The articles don't tell the current state of affairs.  This page from the USC website says that they were continued until the 1970's.  Is that roughly true? Gamecock 01:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Neffs
"I don't understand your rationale in trimming Neffs, Ohio to the bone just because it is a CDP."

I'm not sure what you mean by this, since I only deleted 106 bytes (less than 3½% of the article) from it. I deleted the empty mine disaster heading, not because it's unsuitable for inclusion (it definitely is), but because it was an empty header. If you want to include such a section, please do, but please don't have section headers with nothing under them. Nyttend 03:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Reginald Fessenden
You wouldn't happen to know the references well enough for the Reginald Fessenden article to put the in-line citations in place, would you? The article is very good but needs in-line citations to make it GA. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Map sizes
Why reduce the sizes of the maps? They're no bigger than doton maps for municipality articles, and the dots aren't quite as easy to see on the smaller size. Nyttend 15:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Older maps would be helpful, as would pictures. Do you have a scanner?  I'll help you through the process, if you want to do it.  By the way, since you're uploading old maps (public domain by age) and your own works (which you'll need to make free in order to post on Wikipedia), you might as well upload them onto the Wikimedia Commons.  Nyttend 19:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Ocean Breeze Park, Florida
I am directing this to you, since you seem to be the main contributor to this article.

In the last paragraph of the section about the main areas of town, there is a reference to CR 707, "Indian River River". I am assuming that this is a goof of some sort, although I am not sure of the correct name of the road. (Is it Indian River Road?) You seem to be somewhat familiar with the area; could you fix that? Thanks. Horologium t-c 01:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

about National Historic District not a valid term
Hi, I received your question RE why I removed the term "National Historic District" from an article. I did so because "National Historic District" is not an official term recognized by the National Park Service or in any Federal sources that I am aware of. You mention it shows up in google search, but I do not see any U.S. official sites in the google search I just ran. Its use in various local commercial or nonprofit webpages like [www.bentonsport.com/ Bentonsport] or Aurora Colony does not adequately support using it in wikipedia, IMHO. The use in those local webpages is incorrect and tends to show their authors' lack of knowledge about what their own district is, IMO. I have edited the disambiguation page entry for National Historic District to provide alternatives. Some may use "National Historic District" when perhaps what they refer to is a historic district that is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Again, it is my belief that there is no official term "National Historic District". To underscore that, consider that there is no list of "National Historic Districts" in wikipedia or anywhere else, I believe. Hope this is helpful; I am trying to be definitive not argumentative. I do appreciate your challenge. If you could suggest where/how I should convey this view more appropriately, I would appreciate that also. doncram 14:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

about List of former Christian Science churches, societies and buildings
Hi Clariosophic, I always appreciate your desire to establish a balanced POV in the articles on Christian Science. Because of this, I was surprised by the negative thrust of this page. The main purpose appears to be an attempt to document a decrease in membership in the Christian Science church. As you have noted yourself, it is difficult to get any definitive membership numbers and the status of church buildings do not necessarily verify the status of the membership numbers of the churches. I was also surprised that areas of growth in the CS populations have not been included, lists of new churches in Africa and indication of church progress as exemplified by the recent increase in CS practitioners.

In the area where I live, the Roman Catholic church has sold numerous church buildings. I do not believe one could draw any sound statistics on membership from this action, either. As population centers change there is often a need to relocate services.

There are other things that might be of interest to Wikipedia users about former and current Christian Science buildings that could be more verifiable. Might you consider changing the thrust of the article to highlight CS buildings of architectural interest? Or look for other means to bring balance to the article? Harrietta5 15:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC) Harrietta5

List of historic houses in Massachusetts
Hello, MacGyverMagic here. I checked the talk page and I can't see anything wrong with it. Can you show me a screenshot of the problem you're having? - Mgmbot 14:22, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Typo redirect Template User:Pennsylvania Dutch
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Merger proposed: Hummock pond → Nantucket, Massachusetts
It has been proposed to merge the content of Hummock pond into Nantucket, Massachusetts. Since you have previously edited one of these articles, I thought you might be interested. You're welcome to participate in the discussion if you like. --B. Wolterding 19:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater and subcats
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Wikipedians by alma mater and subcats. Since you participated in the deletion discussion for these categories, you might want to participate in the deletion review. - auburn pilot   talk  17:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Henry Benjamin Whipple & Henry B. Whipple duplicate articles on same bishop
The text is unsourced but not obviously outrageous. At this stage, I'd cut and paste the text from one into the other wholesale. Then, do a minor amount of clean-up. I wouldn't worry about the lack of references but I wouldn't waste time weaving unsourced text. Looking at it now, I'd cheat and make the text in Henry Benjamin Whipple the lead and the text in Henry B. Whipple the body as it is more extensive. Crude but quick and effective. Of course, redirect Henry B. Whipple. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Chapel of the Good Shepherd (Chautauqua, New York)
Oops, i do not know why WP:AWB tagged Chapel of the Good Shepherd (Chautauqua, New York) as a science page. Sorry, Tiptoety 02:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, no problem. Tiptoety 02:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

List of Registered Historic Places in Framingham, Massachusetts
I have no issue with you standardizing the format, I have been doing the same with fast food articles. Please forgive me as I am a little possessive of these articles because of all the work I did on them (I created all of the sub articles for Framingham). Please don't be offended, but I am going to move the content back to the original title though as that I have some plans for the article to expand it beyond the list stage. I will be adding to its historical structure at some point, adding text and a brief history of each place where appropriate, just a lot on the plate.

Jeremy (Jerem43 22:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC))

St. Luke's (Smithfield)
Thanks for your message. I have family in the cemetery at St. Luke's, but hadn't ever really looked at the article. I have worked regularily on some others related to the communtity around it. I'll put it on my list. BTW, noting thayt you have a USC connection, you might be interested in the work I have done relating to the recent fire. After some discussion, we reached some consensus that any mention in WP would probably be best in the article for Ocean Isle Beach, North Carolina, and that's where it it. Tried to keep it factual, rsepectful, such a sad thing. Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia 05:44, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Church of the Holy Comforter
Church of the Holy Comforter, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Church of the Holy Comforter satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Church of the Holy Comforter and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). You are free to edit the content of Church of the Holy Comforter during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Dougie WII (talk) 05:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

RHP infoboxes
All the NRHP articles I've created or seen (and that's a lot) have kept that stuff short and sweet. The infobox hed should have the title of the property by its commonly-used name and nothing else ... no disambiguation term (that's in the location field) and no information not relevant to its status as a historic place (i.e., no info about church denomination or parish. I suppose we should have a church infobox; I do see the need). Take a look, for instance, at these articles about a commonly-used building name: "U.S. Post Office", that I created, in Poughkeepsie, Hyde Park and Rhinebeck. I didn't put the locality in the hed for any of them. Stuffs it up too much. Have you seen any other project where the infobox heds include that many line breaks? It looks sloppy IMO.

Granted, we don't have project guidelines on this yet (I think we should). But this seems to have been common practice within WP:NRHP so far. If you feel we could handle this differently, start a thread on the talk page. Daniel Case (talk) 21:23, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I thought it was sort of common practice to limit the stub tags to two (of course, we could expand the article to the point where a stub is no longer necessary). Feel free to add the Anglicanism stub back if you want and feel it would get people to improve the article.

As for the picture, you're welcome. When I saw the article had been created, I jumped it forward from deep in my queue of pictures to upload and (often) RHP articles to create.

I have argued elsewhere that we need to have a "listed_as" parameter in the infobox so that we can account for properties listed under a name other than the one they're currently generally known as (Wappingers Falls Village Hall is named as such because the USPS has built another post office nearby, which is not a historic property (at least not now). Another editor I work with insists that we should use the NRHP name in the infobox hed regardless of how we title the article. This needs to be resolved. Hopefully when I have uploaded all the pictures I've accumulated this year and created the corresponding articles this winter, I can then turn my attention to this. Daniel Case (talk) 21:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

I added some stuff from the NRHP nom into this article (I didn't know Richard Upjohn was the architect! That's a big deal!) In the process I again reverted the infobox hed. Poughkeepsie is part of neither the church's official name nor its NRHP listing (which, given the NPS's near-total lack of naming conventions, isn't so bad: Church of the Holy Comforter (Anglican)). It's already in bigger letters in the article title, and linked down in the infobox itself. And again, I don't know of any other project here where the geographical dab term is used in infobox titles (A long time ago, I had the infobox for Slide Mountain (Ulster County, New York) use (New York) when the state alone was the dab term. Someone removed that without comment. I'd link to the diff but it's hard to find now since the mountain infobox has been changed). No, there isn't a rule against it but that doesn't always mean something is a good idea. Daniel Case (talk) 18:38, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Interested in a Christian Science Project?
Let me know because I'm interested and agree that the information is fairly cluttered and disorganized. I've studied Christian Science and other controversial religions for years. Thanks. SimonATL (talk) 03:59, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

T.G. Richards and Company Store
Hey, so the new NRHP listing section to me seems a bit superflous (sp?), as almost all of the information is available in the infobox, or the body of the article. Is there a standard for listing these in articles? It just kinda looks crappy to me. Murderbike (talk) 19:54, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Good Job!
Hey nice work on the Levin College of Law. The alums from this school just doesn't do enough to promote themselves. Ole UF grads basically owned the state of Florida back in the day, and it's time for them to reclaim that UF legacy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rothamell (talk • contribs) 01:57, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Christ Church
I don't see your recent edits to the above as improving. Rather they seem to complicate it. Christ Church Grammar School for instance is not a church. You are changing format that is used for most POWdis pages. Before I undo your edits, I would like to discuss this with you and try to reach some consensus. clariosophic 20:23, 3 December 2007 (UTC) As a citizen of the Republic of Ireland, I can tell you that Christ Church Cathedral, Dublin is not in the UK. clariosophic 20:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oooh, I am so sorry! Of course, you're right, we'll have to move that one! My mistake. Thanks for not reverting...I'd much rather work together with someone who cares about the page. I did put the Grammar School link under Educational Institutions, rather than churches, although you may have looked at an intermediate edit, so that should solve that one.  I haven't worked on POWdis pages before, although I have done lots of regular dab pages, so please let me know how else you think this could be improved.  My reason for the changes to begin with was that the page was far too long and unwieldy and contained too many red links.  I also am trying to improve the related pages Christchurch (disambiguation) and Christ Church Cathedral, although I haven't done much to those yet.  Do you have much experience with the POWdis pages? I do have some questions. SlackerMom 20:42, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, most of that sounds great, but here are my questions...First, this doesn't really seem to follow the guidelines for disambig pages, which are supposed to be used for navigation of existing articles, not as lists of articles that need to be created. In my opinion, those churches on the NR should be included in the list articles as red links, but should only be on the dab page if an article currently exists, or the church is mentioned in an existing article (such as Springfield, Missouri).  This is the way I understand the current disambiguation page guidelines.  I think the long list of U.S. state name headings is unnecessary, but basically harmless, so I don't mind if those are put back.  Secondly, keeping the POWdis tag on the Christ Church page isn't really accurate since it (currently) contains five non-church entries.  You said the geographical entries should be on a separate page, but what would you call it?  And how would the user find it?  I'm a fan of clarity, and my preference would be that there be one dab page for everything known as "Christ Church" and another dab page for everything known as "Christchurch" with no overlap (except for cross links in "See also").  Of course, we also have Christ Church Cathedral to deal with...but that's probably another day. SlackerMom 21:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Christchurch (disambiguation) is really the geographical one. It is in the Se also section in this article. If you want to keep this one just for POWs, then let's move all the schools, hospitals, etc., to the other. Just remember that some of them are related. The civil parish in Barbados also has a church by that name in it. Christ Church Cathedral in Oxford is located on the campus of Christ Church College and is its chapel.


 * I understand what you're saying on policies, however, you're running into conflicts with policies and/or practices from other projects such as the NR. See List of Registered Historic Places in the District of Columbia again, which is typical of the NR lists. You'll see plenty of red. This is where the articles come from. Look at Church of the Ascension and you'll see blue.. You would think there is an article on the church in D.C., but there isn't. It's a link to the POWdis page. The task of going back and correcting every single link link that in all the NR lists would be monumental and won't probably be strongly opposed. Usually when a real article is created, they want you to pipe it. I didn't do that at the 2 Christ Churches in DC because that wasn't possible to do with only one listing there. If there had actually only been one, someone would have piped it for. So if I created the article "Church of the Ascension (Washington, D.C.)" and linked it that way in the list article, someone would surely pipe it to "Church of the Ascension (Washington, D.C.)|Church of the Ascension". On the red links in the US, I will change them to black and put a (NR) after each one with at note under the United States section listing as to what that means. If yoy want some idea of the number, look at "what links here" on a POWdis page. I'm getting tired and have to quit for a while. clariosophic 22:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

St. Barnabas Church, Upper Marlboro, Maryland
Hi. Thanks for your contributions to St. Barnabas Church. I noticed you changed the religious_affiliation field from Anglican to Episcopal. Since this church/parish dates from before the revolution, as I understand it, it was started as Anglican and became Episcopal. Is that tpically noted in articles about Parishes anywhere? You seem to be pretty knowledgable on this. Thanks. Toddst1 (talk) 18:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Grace Episcopal Church (Keswick, VA)
I currently go to this church and will be discussing further information to place on this page with the congregation. It is exam week at the University I attend, so do not expect me to add more information for about a fortnight. Thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by AContributor (talk • contribs) 23:22, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank you for updating the information and putting together a layout for this article. I was curious if you knew whether this should be moved to "Grace Episcopal Church (Cismont, VA)" since that is how it is listed on the historic registry and is talked about at the church. The address is at the Keswick post office though?? I have searched naming conventions and cannot seem to find a satisfactory answer. Thanks. If you think it should stay where it is, I might make a redirect for "Grace Episcopal Church (Cismont, VA)".

East Naples
I responded to your post at Talk:East Naples, Florida. Short form: reliable sources say otherwise. I'd appreciate any feedback you can provide.  Horologium  (talk) 13:04, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Holy Apostles Episcopal Church (Satellite Beach, Florida)
I have nominated Holy Apostles Episcopal Church (Satellite Beach, Florida), an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Holy Apostles Episcopal Church (Satellite Beach, Florida). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Dougie WII (talk) 07:06, 22 December 2007 (UTC)