User:Cotton2/sandbox/response


 * Keep - The main article nominated for deletion is List of vehicles simulated by iRacing.com to which I am responding. The nominator has stated about the article "there are no independent sources that have covered this extensive list of content." and "All the citations are brief blog posts and product overview articles". These are not true statements. Car and Driver magazine has been published since 1955, both in print and online. It is a reliable 3rd party source per WP:RS and covers the cars in addition to iRacing in general. As stated in Notability the reference requires no original research to interpret the source, addresses the topic directly, and is more than a trivial mention, but not the entire subject of the reference. No extraordinary claims are made in the article and no extraordinary references are needed. Another reference, www.expertreviews.co.uk, is neither a blog nor a product overview. It is an article by, again, a reliable 3rd party source who examines televisions, cell phones, appliances and others. Lists are not banned from Wikipedia WP:LISTV and this lists performs the same function as the example listed, List of typefaces serves. No expansive information is added to each item in the list. It serves as an "excellent resources from which to begin exploring the subject." Cotton2 (talk) 06:21, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

This is a little off topic, but it's been brought up as part of the fancruft stuff. As I have researched this article I have read a lot in the online media about iracing and sim racing in general. Isn't that what Wikipedia is all about? Apparently iracing is about top dog in the simulator field. Comparing it to arcade racing is like saying a Dbase search function is the same as a Google search. Both use a monitor and keyboard as the user interface, but what goes on behind the scene is worlds apart. Who says iracing is not a video game, try Wikipedia, PCAuthority, Engadget, Wired magazine, actually just about every article I've read. Yeah, but this is not really a simulator. Not like an Airbus simulator or even a train simulator, there's no hardware. Check out that Wired magazine link. At $80 thousand I'd say it even qualifies in price. Would I sit in there for 24 hours simulating a Le Mans race and pay $80k for the fun, no way! Would I pay $80k for a sailboat and sail 24 hours, you bet! To each his own... Cotton2 (talk) 20:51, 8 October 2016 (UTC)