User:Cullen328/sandbox/SMD


 * Keep First of all, this nomination is deeply flawed. The nominator claims to have conducted an "internet search", didn't find sources readily at hand on a computer screen, and thereby concludes that the the school isn't notable. The nominator fails to mention which languages were used in that search. The common languages spoken in Srinagar are Kashmiri and Urdu. I would expect that the nominator would inform us that in-depth searches had been performed in Kashmiri and Urdu. But no. Nominator relies on the essay WP:All high schools can be notable but ignores the heart of the second paragraph:


 * "However, outside the Anglosphere, particularly for countries in Asia and Africa, Internet coverage is very poor. Where this is the case then, to avoid systemic bias, local sources should be sought. This may involve researching local media, for example at a neighboring library."


 * We all know that reliable sources need not be readily available online. So, I ask the nominator, has a paper search been conducted in a library or perhaps a newspaper archive in or near Srinagar as recommended by the very essay you cited? Atlantima, who is very eager to see an article about a secondary school deleted, has jumped in quickly before anyone else (such as a guy like me) has the opportunity to mention WP:SYSTEMICBIAS. So be it. However, systemic bias was mentioned in the essay that the nominator used in the argument to delete, so I consider mentioning it fair game. I believe that every single editor of this encyclopedia has the obligation to try to avoid systemic bias, because that bias is an insidious enemy of our goal of developing a comprehensive and neutral worldwide information resource. The nominator also writes "No one notable has ever graduated from here, nothing notable appears to have ever taken place here". What does this have to do with whether or not an article about a secondary school should be kept? Is the nominator arguing that secondary schools inherit notability from notable graduates, or that the school would be notable if only some notable event (I can't imagine what) had occurred there? I am tempted to oppose this nomination solely on the procedural ground that the nomination itself is fatally flawed. But the flaws speak for themselves. Instead, I will advance the argument that WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES is an exceptionally useful rule of thumb, that it accurately describes and summarizes our working consensus over quite a few years, and that it keeps this type of debate to a minimum. Articles about the vast majority of secondary schools are in, and we work to expand them and reference them as time goes by. Articles about the vast majority of primary schools are out. Done deal.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  00:22, 16 April 2013 (UTC)