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http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/state-law/colorado/

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/05/homo-naledi-human-evolution-science/?sf77322365=1

http://gameo.org/index.php?title=Winterbourne_Old_Order_Mennonite_Meetinghouse_(West_Montrose,_Ontario,_Canada)

Special:RecentChangesLinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms/Watchlist

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/world/ak-47-mass-shootings.html

https://hbr.org/1958/11/management-in-the-1980s

Talk:Colt AR-15

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Rfc: Add major incidents to Ruger Mini 14
Should the Ruger Mini 14 article add this text? CuriousMind01 (talk) 15:14, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

The Ruger Mini 14 was used in these incidents:
 * 1986 FBI Miami shootout, resulted in FBI agents and law enforcement agencies switching to use of more powerful guns and body armor for official use in the USA.[45][46]
 * École Polytechnique Massacre, resulted in the Canada Firearms Act, 1995[47] and faster incident police response procedures in Canada for similar incidents.[48]"

Threaded discussion
There are sources in the 2 incident articles, I repeated some sources and added additional sources here:

1986 FBI Miami shootout
 * http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-marks-30-years-since-infamous-bloody-miami-shootout/
 * https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2014/5/23/8-things-you-might-not-know-about-the-ruger-mini-14/
 * https://americanhandgunner.com/25-years-after-the-fbi-firefight-the-late-emerging/
 * https://vault.fbi.gov/FBI%20Miami%20Shooting%204-11-86%20/Miami%20Shooting%204-11-86%20Part%201%20of%2011%20
 * http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2011/05/5-gunfights-that-changed-law-enforcement.aspx
 * https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/director-observes-30th-anniversary-of-miami-shootout
 * https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/fatal-firefight-in-miami

École Polytechnique Massacre Rathjen, Heidi; Montpetit, Charles (1999). December 6: From the Montreal Massacre to Gun Control. Toronto:. McClelland & Stewart. ISBN 0-7710-6125-0.
 * http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/f-11.6/page-1.html
 * "canoe -- CNEWS: - Lessons learned from Montreal massacre help save lives". cnews.canoe.com. Retrieved 2016-09-25.

The article currently has a popular culture use.

I added criteria, the 2 results per: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Firearms#Criminal_use. I did not think it was necessary to repeat the incident details within the 2 articles.

-- Neutral point of view/Noticeboard

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Firearms/Archive 3

WikiProject Military history/Content guide

WP:Firearms guideline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Firearms#Criminal_use that has stood the test of time for many years now. The goal of that guideline is to avoid having firearm articles becoming littered with every "good use" and "bad use" mentions of day to day crime. "On January 1st, 20XX, Joe Schmo successfully used a BRRP MK II to defend himself in his garage." That guideline also states that specific firearms that become widely notorious because of their usages, and result in major changes in gun laws, should include mention of the usages in the firearm article. For example, the Carcano rifle used in the JFK assassination, the pistol used in the Columbine shooting, etc., that resulted in major changes in both gun laws and in public perceptions.

It was formed years ago, written as a guideline and policy prior to the Wikipedia Firearms interest group by many early editors to WP, who then originally formed the Firearms interest group and included the wording in what exists today.

It has stood the test of time rather well, and the guideline was put in place to avoid the addition of cruft and pop culture, and also was set in place to avoid the attempt to try to set mass killing records that would only become goals to be beaten by later shooters.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/12/us/handguns-gun-ownership-survey.html?emc=edit_th_20161015&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=58413496

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http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2015/05/21/a-tale-of-four-supernovas/?sf9501445=1

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v521/n7552/full/nature14440.html http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v521/n7552/full/nature14455.html

<iframe width="550" height="740" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" src="http://www.climatecentral.org/wgts/WhenItRainsItPours/index.html

Video of Laser Beam in flight

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2015/150127/ncomms7021/full/ncomms7021.html

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26861-laser-flight-path-caught-on-camera-for-the-first-time.html#.VWdkYs_BzGc

In order to observe a laser, or any other light source, photons from it must directly hit your eyes. But since laser photons travel in a tightly-focused beam, all heading in the same direction, you can only see them when the laser hits something that reflects a portion of the light and produces a visible dot.

A tiny proportion of photons scatter off air molecules, but normally these are too faint to see. You can get around this by firing a laser through smoke, giving the photons more molecules to scatter off – but that's not the effect we see in the movies.

"The challenge was to have a movie of light moving directly in air," saysGenevieve Gariepy of Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh, UK. "We wanted to look at light without interacting with it, just looking at it passing by."

To make this work, she and her colleagues constructed a camera sensitive enough to pick up those few scattering photons. It is built from a 32 by 32 grid of detectors that log the time a photon arrives at them with incredible precision, equivalent to snapping around 20 billion frames a second.

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Lighting the way
The team arranged the camera to film a side-on view of a green laser firing at an arrangement of mirrors. By firing 2 million pulses over a 10 minute period and subtracting background noise, they were able to build up enough air-scattered photons in the camera to track the laser's path as it bounced.

"What comes out is a frame by frame of the light moving through our system," says Gariepy. In their video, this position data is overlaid on a background photograph taken with a regular camera, and coloured green to match the laser's true colour.

The experiment started as a pure research challenge, but Gariepy thinks their camera could have practical applications. In another experiment, the team filmed a focused laser that ionised air molecules to produce a plasma. Gariepy says a similar setup could help people studying the properties of such plasmas by letting them watch the plasma evolve over time.

Precise timing data could also be used to measure the distance photons have travelled, an effect previously exploited to take pictures around corners. "It takes maybe an hour or so to acquire an image" around a corner, says Gariepy, but the ability to take multiple images rapidly could generate movies from around corners. "With our camera this can be done in seconds."

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--- http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/02/science/adding-branches-to-the-human-family-tree.html http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/05/world/jawbones-discovery-fills-barren-evolutionary-period.html ---

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http://phys.org/news/2011-04-scientists-spacetime-dimension.html --- Origin of Birds

Hello MWAK, you deleted this section and references. It seems relevant to the origin of birds. What is the reason for your deletion? I am new toWikipedia and am trying to learn its workings. Thank you,Jcardazzi (talk) 16:17, 7 June 2015 (UTC)jcardazzi

''Recent research indicates that bird-specific features, like feathers, began to appear before the evolution of birds, indicating that birds adapted pre-existing features to new uses, like flight. Other gradual changes like a more baby like skull shape into adulthood may have been important changes in the origin of birds. The features of birds evolved in a sequence; first bipedal locomotion, then feathers, then a wishbone, then more complex feathers, then wings. After these features existed then bird evolution was faster than dinosaur evolution.[1]'' [2][3][4][5]
 * One problem is that this information should not be in the "Phylogeny" chapter. It simply isn't about phylogeny :o). But there is a much deeper problem: it should of course be in some chapter about the morphological evolution. But there isn't one yet. And although there is a commendable amount of citing, the three lines you offered were a bit meagre. They were also, though factually correct, misleading. A naive reader might assume that the sequence of changes you indicated, though slower than the evolution of birds, still immediately preceded the rise of birds. This however, is not at all true. Bipedality must have been at least 240 million years old, integument might well have been equally ancient and, depending on definition, wishbones and "wings" were probably quite old too. So that must all be explained in a more thorough way. Including the definitional problems. So the real reason for deletion is that this is already a long article and other editors are weary of edits that necessitate large structural changes that perhaps will not be implemented in an adequate way. But you correctly spotted that (or what) the article was wanting.--MWAK (talk) 17:03, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Jump up^ "How Dinosaurs Shrank and Became Birds | Quanta Magazine". www.quantamagazine.org. Retrieved 2015-06-06.
 * Jump up^ "How Dinosaurs Shrank and Became Birds | Quanta Magazine". www.quantamagazine.org. Retrieved 2015-06-06.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-dinosaurs-shrank-and-became-birds/?WT.mc_id=SA_Facebook --- QUASARS Formation
 * Jump up^ "A molecular mechanism for the origin of a key evolutionary innovation, the bird beak and palate, revealed by an integrative approach to major transitions in vertebrate history - Bhullar - Evolution - Wiley Online Library". onlinelibrary.wiley.com. Retrieved 2015-06-06.
 * Jump up^ Brusatte, Stephen L.; Lloyd, Graeme T.; Wang, Steve C.; Norell, Mark A. (Oct 20, 2014). "Gradual assembly of avian body plan culminated in rapid rates of evolution across the dinosaur-bird transition". Current biology: CB 24 (20): 2386–2392.doi:10.1016/j.cub.2014.08.034. ISSN 1879-0445. .
 * Jump up^ "Does Competition Drive Diversity of Species? | Quanta Magazine". www.quantamagazine.org. Retrieved 2015-06-06.
 * Jump up^ Bhullar, Bhart-Anjan S.; Marugán-Lobón, Jesús; Racimo, Fernando; Bever, Gabe S.; Rowe, Timothy B.; Norell, Mark A.; Abzhanov, Arhat (Jul 12, 2012). "Birds have paedomorphic dinosaur skulls". Nature 487 (7406): 223–226. doi:10.1038/nature11146. ISSN 1476-4687..

--- CR7 http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/140821-star-supernova-primordial-space-first-generation/ http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/astronomers-claim-to-make-first-glimpse-of-primordial-stars/ --- http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/06/150622-neanderthal-dna-jawbone-ancestor-anthropology/ --- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/22/scientists-discover-hundreds-of-hidden-galaxies.html --- http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/06/150622-uganda-poaching-wildlife-crime-elephants-ambassador-wonekha/ --- http://www.txstate.edu/news/news_releases/news_archive/2015/June-2015/VJDayKiss062215.html --- http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news-detail.html?id=4633 --- http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/06/150622-andrew-tallon-notre-dame-cathedral-laser-scan-art-history-medieval-gothic/ --- NASA is sending high definition videos of Earth for the ISS. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload http://www.space.com/25797-nasa-hd-earth-from-space-video-webcasts.html NASA announced June 16 2015 that HDEV video is now available in Ultra HD, or 4K, format. A commercial Company call Urthecast release HD videos from its camera on ISS. http://www.space.com/29695-urthecast-hd-video-from-space.html --- WISE brightest galaxy https://www.facebook.com/ScientificAmerican/videos/vb.22297920245/10155684758280246/?type=2&theater ---

Video Transmissions
The ISS does live-streaming views of Earth captured by four commercial high-definition video cameras(HDEV) installed on the exterior of the International Space Station last month. The High Definition Earth Viewing (HDEV) experiment aboard the ISS was activated April 30, 2014.

The HDEV gear was delivered by SpaceX's robotic Dragon capsule, launched April 18, 2014. Astronauts installed the cameras on the space station, which became operational on April 30, 2014.

HDEV is mounted on the External Payload Facility of the European Space Agency’s Columbus module.

This experiment includes several commercial HD video cameras aimed at the earth which are enclosed in a pressurized and temperature controlled housing.

Video from these cameras is transmitted back to earth and streamed live on this channel.

While the experiment is operational, views will typically sequence though the different cameras.

Between camera switches, a gray and then black color slate will briefly appear. Since the ISS is in darkness during part of each orbit, the images will be dark at those times.

During periods of loss of signal with the ground or when HDEV is not operating, a gray color slate or previously recorded video may be seen.

The cameras are enclosed in a temperature-specific housing and are exposed to the harsh radiation of space,"

"Analysis of the effect of space on the video quality, over the time HDEV is operational, may help engineers decide which cameras are the best types to use on future missions.

The project, known as the High Definition Earth Viewing (HDEV) experiment, aims to test how cameras perform in the space environment.

Analysis of this experiment will be conducted to assess the effects of the space environment on the equipment and video quality which may help decisions about cameras for future missions. High school students helped with the design of some of the HDEV components through the High Schools United with NASA to Create Hardware (HUNCH) program. Student teams will also help operate the experiment. To learn more about the HDEV experiment, visit here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/917.html

The primary purpose of HDEV is to monitor the rate at which HD video camera image quality degrades when exposed to the space environment (mainly from cosmic ray damage) and verify the effectiveness of the design of the HDEV housing for thermal control.

The four cameras of the HDEV experiment are oriented in different directions and with different views relative to the ISS travel direction. They are in positioned, 1 looking forward, 1 looking nearly straight down, and 2 looking back. This provides several different viewing angles to the viewer.

The cameras are programmed to cycle from one camera to the next, and only one camera can work at a time. As they cycle, each camera must turn off and the next camera turn on before the HD video starts, taking about 8 to 10 seconds to change. Through this cycling, comparable data can be collected on each camera; while also providing, as a bonus, different Earth viewing perspectives.

The University of Bonn in partnership with the German Space Agency (DLR) is implementing the "Columbus Eye" program based on the HDEV streaming video. A webpage is in place (http://columbuseye.uni-bonn.de/ in German) that incorporates the HDEV UStream video and describes the Columbus Eye project

The Vancouver-based company UrtheCast (pronounced "Earthcast") has two HD cameras on the orbiting lab. One of them, known as Theia, takes pictures with a resolution of 16.5 feet (5 meters), while the other camera records video that can resolve details as small as 3 feet (1 m) across.

These two cameras, which cost $17 million, were installed by spacewalking cosmonauts in January. UrtheCast released the first images from Theia last month and plans to begin streaming near-realtime views of Earth from orbit soon, bringing lots of viewers to their website. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/iss-hdev-payload

http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/HDEV/ http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33226496 -- http://frontierfields.org/2015/06/23/galaxy-shapes-in-the-frontier-fields-observations/ -- http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-s-chandra-captures-x-ray-echoes-pinpointing-distant-neutron-star -- Google digitally mapped the entire 3,000-foot rock climb using its spherical 360-degree panoramic photography used in the Street View technology of its road maps of: 1. Tommy Caldwell climbing the Dawn Wall; 2.)Alex Honnold climbing the NOSE, using gear and ropes, in January 2015 wearing a harness holding six high-resolution cameras, capturing images every ten vertical feet, from ground to summit. Google Yosemite Climbs -- http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/secrets-of-the-colosseum-75827047/?no-ist http://news.discovery.com/history/rome-colosseum-unveils-wild-beasts-trapdoor-150608.htm http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/05/heres-how-ancient-romans-got-wild-animals-onto-the-colosseum-floor/ http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/secrets-of-the-colosseum-75827047/?no-ist http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/how-ancient-romans-got-wild-animals-colosseum-180955580/?spMailingID=22912095&spUserID=NzU3NjY0OTQzOTMS1&spJobID=582373983&spReportId=NTgyMzczOTgzS0 -- http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/extreme-temperatures-linked-to-changing-air-patterns/ -- -- http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/magazine/can-the-bacteria-in-your-gut-explain-your-mood.html?emc=edit_th_20150628&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=58413496 -- http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/superconductivity-record-bolstered-by-magnetic-data/?WT.mc_id=SA_Facebook -- http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-100-year-debate-about-the-eardrum-comes-to-an-end/ http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2015/150422/ncomms7853/full/ncomms7853.html -- http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-study-finds-indian-pacific-oceans-temporarily-hide-global-warming -- dark matter http://iopscience.iop.org/2041-8205/807/1/L2/pdf/2041-8205_807_1_L2.pdf http://subarutelescope.org/Pressrelease/2015/06/22/index.html --- ---
 * February 11, 2015 Public Broadcasting System "Roman Colosseum" −
 * PBS Colosseum Building blocks
 * Official website
 * The colosseum Unofficial information website
 * Cross-section view of the Colosseum
 * The flora of the Colosseum
 * Virtual tour of the Colosseum
 * LacusCurtius entry on the Colosseum
 * Photos of the Colosseum
 * Views of the Flavian Amphitheatre (Coliseum)
 * Colosseum killing machine reconstructed after more than 1,500 years (June 2015). "For the first time, experts recreate one of the 28 timber machines that hoisted wild animals into the Colosseum, where they were pitted against gladiators and each other." The Telegraph (UK)

Simple Application and Meaning
−	Solving the equation by using the values for the physical constants on the right side of the field equation, where G=Newton's gravitational constant, c=the speed of light, the equation reduces to: G=0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002*T −	meaning to get a warp of space-time takes a large amount of mass. For example the Earth's mass at 1 M⊕ = 5.97219 × 1024 kg −	warps space-time to the strength of gravity which we experience on Earth causing an acceleration of mass of approximately 9.8 meters/second2 at the Earth's surface.

I still believe that the section you added, Einstein field equations#Simple Application and Meaning, has no value. Presently, it says "Solving the equation by using the values for the physical constants on the right side of the field equation, where G=Newton's gravitational constant, c=the speed of light, the equation reduces to: G=0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002*T meaning to get a warp of space-time takes a large amount of mass. For example the Earth's mass at 1 M⊕ = 5.97219 × 1024 kg warps space-time to the strength of gravity which we experience on Earth causing an acceleration of mass of approximately 9.8 meters/second2 at the Earth's surface.". A long string of zeros (instead of an expression in scientific notation) is incomprehensible as most people would have difficulty even counting the number of zeros, let alone figuring out what they mean. Presumably you are assuming some system of units, but you have not identified which system. No scientist talks about "a warp of space-time"; that is straight out of fiction. The "G" in your formula is potentially confusing as some people might read it as referring to the gravitational constant rather than the Einstein tensor. Copyright info: Just click the 'History' tab to open the article's revisions history — for example, this is a history of this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=history then find appropriate version, for example, a revision from today, 18 September 2015‎ — and the hour-and-date of a revision is a hyperlink to that revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&oldid=681626935 Just right-click it and choose 'Copy a link' or whatever it is called in your browser; or click it to open in a new view, then copy the URL from the browser's address bar. --CiaPan (talk) 12:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Can audiopedia articles be linked/templated into wikipedia articles? Is there a bot doing so?

I found Audiopedia videos of spoken wikipedia articles meant for the blind.

Audiopedia seems to be sponsored by the BBC. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8865357/BBC-to-open-vast-radio-archive-online.html

There is an Audiopedia user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Audiopedia

here is an example wikipedia spoken recording. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOgcIIy4mtw&ab_channel=Audiopedia

Informati:on https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV63FScHnShoobfaENC8R_Q/about Description We provide a free service targeted to blind and visually-impaired internet users. Wikipedia is the largest database of knowledge ever known to mankind, and yet it is essentially inaccessible to individuals with limited vision. Note that all text is licensed under CC-BY-SA, and all images are also creative commons (various licenses).

Thank you,CuriousMind01 (talk) 16:24, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Hey CuriousMind01. That YouTube channel is unconnected with Wikipedia, and it is a copyright violation of Wikipedia, so we would certainly never properly link to them, automatically or otherwise. However, the copyright issue could be fixed to give proper attribution to Wikipedia's authors under our licenses (they do make an attempt to comply at their about page, woefully short of the mark). Wikipedia already has spoken versions of articles, and, as of now, there are 1,165 in the category for them. We also have a project dedicated to producing them. I do see some advantages to having a YouTube channel for others. For example, any normal format can be uploaded to YouTube using a billion devices, whereas there are many hoops to jump through here, because of the requirements that the upload be in a free and open-source software codec and container (see Vorbis & Ogg). Also, even though a human's reading is almost always many times better than a program's, it can be tasked with creating them 24 hours a day and allow access for people where they don't have it now. But even if we concede that, it would be better to have such a program to do so here rather than linked to off-site. I would support setting that up but as with everything here, it requires someone willing to take the time and having the know-how to do it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:05, 12 September 2015 (UTC) Hi, Audiopedia doesn't seem to be in any copyright violation per the terms in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights, because the content is offered by WP for free to all. I think what they are doing is legal, creating computer generated spoken WP text articles, offered for free for use of the blind, and citing the WP article name and an image. It would be great if WP did the same, like you wrote it takes time and skills. Thank you, CuriousMind01 (talk) 18:25, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi again CuriousMind01. As I said about that page "(they do make an attempt to comply at their about page, woefully short of the mark)". I actually linked for you the copyright policy page you linked back to me above, and have a quite a lot of experience in copyright enforcement, application and interpretation. I do think it's important for you to understand what the copyright issue is, so you, being involved and possibly in a position to help here – maybe even in some manner informing Audiopedia of the problem so they can become compliant and we could link their efforts – are armed with the knowledge to know what the problem actually is and how it can be fixed. Wikipedia content is not "offered by WP for free to all". There are two basic problems with this statement. First, Wikipedia does not own the copyright to (the vast majority of) its content at all, its authors do, personally, whatever they contribute, so long as it is sufficiently creative to be subject to copyright protection. Second, most of that content is co-licensed under two free copyright licenses: the 1) CC-By-SA 3.0 Unported License, and under the GFDL, which, simplifying, require that copyright attribution be given to to the authors in a "reasonable manner" to comply with the licenses. We further agree by contributing, that such copyright attribution credit to us, the authors of an article, can be provided by (in addition to stating one or more free licenses they are reusing the content under), include a direct line notice of the page at this site where its page history is available, so that a person viewing the re-used content is informed of, and can easily and directly navigate to, the page being re-used and therefore can see the identity of the content authors in its history. This can be done by posting at the reuse site a) a hyperlink (where possible) or b) URL to the Wikipedia page or pages being re-used (emphasis added as this becomes important in the next paragraph), or c) a list of all authors, which you would find in the page history/ies (generally this last option is only done where a page has very few authors).

What this means in practice is that each one of the Audiopedia files needs a clear notice stating the license and saying what specific Wikipedia page its content comes from, by the methods I've outlined. This is not provided by vague notice somewhere that all text is "is licensed under CC-BY-SA". Every one of those videos is infringing on the copyright of the authors in the content of the page being read, and will be until a compliant full and direct notice is provided for the specific Wikipedia page by one of the methods I've outlined – it's really not all that difficult to comply but they don't come close. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:16, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Fuhghettaboutit. Copyright is a complicated subject(to me).

Are these statements correct? For each Audiopedia Youtube video speaking a Wikipedia article,Audiopedia would have to state they are complying with these 2 licenses: 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_License and write the URL the wikipedia article which is being spoken (re-used).

State the intent of the spoken re-use is to assist the blind and visually impaired to make a use of Wikipedia articles, for free from Audiopedia.

Thanks again--CuriousMind01 (talk) 17:59, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

CuriousMind01, close but not quite. They would need to comply with at least one of those two license, they could select either or both. In either case, they would need to provide a link to the original page history, or the original Wikipedia page, which itself has a link to the history. A permalink to the version they used would be preferable. They would also need to be clear that their content is under the same license, and that people may use it on the same conditions. They would not need to state their intent, as Wikipedia's license are not in any way conditioned upon intent (they might want to, but that would be their choice). Indeed if they chose to charge for their services, Wikipedia's license would permit it if the above conditions were complied with.DES (talk) 18:26, 13 September 2015 (UTC) Thank you. How could a link to the original page history, or the original Wikipedia page or a permalink to the version used, be provided? I can only find providing the link to an article, which contains a tab for the article history.

If someone reuses a page from the past, example from June 1 2015, how can a link to the June 1 2015 page be provided? Thank you, CuriousMind01 (talk) 11:52, 18 September 2015 (UTC) Click the highlighted link to get to the permalink. Supdiop (T🔹C) 12:54, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

3.6 how to get a link to a past article version[edit source]

Click to see image for more details Regarding my recent Audiopedia question.

....they would need to provide a link to the original page history, or the original Wikipedia page, which itself has a link to the history. A permalink to the version they used would be preferable....DES (talk) 18:26, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

How could a link to the original page history, or the original Wikipedia page or a permalink to the version used, be provided?

I can only find providing the link to the current article, which contains a tab for the article history.

If someone reuses a page from the past, example the article version from June 1 2015, how can a link to the June 1 2015 page be provided? I see articles have version #s in the history-compare differences, but the history tab list does not give the link,

Thank you, CuriousMind01 (talk) 11:52, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Just click the 'History' tab to open the article's revisions history — for example, this is a history of this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=history then find appropriate version, for example, a revision from today, 18 September 2015‎ — and the hour-and-date of a revision is a hyperlink to that revision: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&oldid=681626935 Just right-click it and choose 'Copy a link' or whatever it is called in your browser; or click it to open in a new view, then copy the URL from the browser's address bar. --CiaPan (talk) 12:07, 18 September 2015 (UTC) Click the highlighted link to get to the permalink. Supdiop (T🔹C) 12:54, 18 September 2015 (UTC)