User:DGG/2007-09Dels

Ongoing

 * currently in prod by others to be kept:  Bella DePaulo, Gascoigne_family


 * deletion from prod to reinstate: Arturo Corces,
 * deletions from speedy to reinstate to reinstate: Neil S. Siegel
 * deletions from Afd to try again
 * to watch

Faculty and others from prod

 * prod expires on Sunday July 22 Stuart J. Youngner -- fixed
 * prod expires on

faculty from bot
July 22: to restore: Sophiline_Cheam_Shapiro,Ruth Lathi,

July 30: faculty: [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],
 * journals: [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],
 * others [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],
 * problems [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],

July 31: faculty: [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],
 * journals: [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],
 * others [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],
 * problems [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],

Aug 1: faculty: [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],
 * journals: [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],
 * others [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],
 * problems [[:], [[:], [[:], [[:],

Summary

 * Examples of inappropriate AfD, prod, speedy, according to unanimity or very strong unmistakable consensus at AfD -- not necessarily according to DGG's opinion
 * List: Link to article, link to AfD, Type of article, result, date closed, comment


 * , May 20 07, 6 out of 99 (+ one withdraw nom)
 * The_Mystery_of_the_Druids,, computer game, AfD nom, May 20 07, edit war with nonsense version
 * John Africa,, founder of MOVE, AfD nom under BLP, May 20 07 policy.
 * Wikimania, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wikimania, AfD as nn conference--sources are blogs, May 20, 07 ,possibly WP:POINT about del
 * Howie Hawkins  co-founder of the Green Party, AfD nom, May 20 07, "has a history of marking dozens of GP politicians for deletion"
 * [] online prank, AfD nom, May 20 07, (in all the papers)
 * Killer application (computers, etc.) AfD nom, May 20 07,
 * May 19 07,
 * Denis Smyth Prof of History at Toronto, AfD nom, May 19 07,
 * Gisella_Perl (Holocaust author) AfD, May 19, 06 nom:"even though she saved a bunch of lives and wrote books."
 * May 18
 * Mohammad Khorrami Iranian physicist with almost 100 papers, AfD, May 18, 06  nom:His publications do not appear to be the basis of a significant number of independent works. Nor does it appear he's won a significant award.:
 * John_S._Kloppenborg (Prof of Religion) AfD May 18, 06 nom: Lots of published works listed, but they don't seem to be past the genre of "what a tenured professor is supposed to write anyway" "; "a deletion of this article would say that almost no academic could be notable. Far beyond the average professor, almost certainly in the top 1%. -- Myke Cuthbert "
 * Vote for the Worst,  .(American Idol) AfD May 18, 06 nom: ' follows all the rules. ' *

Afds in Del rev.

 * 2007/Fe2 *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_February_3
 * [[Angie Phillips error in closing, should be relisted in AfD
 * [D.C. Wimberly] error in closing, should be relisted in AfD
 * [[Alan & Denise error in closing, should be relisted in AfD
 * [[Extra Action Marching Band]  5 restore, 1 endorse deletion
 * [[xxxchurch]  9 overturn, most restore to AfD
 * [[Alan & Denise] ] error in closing, should be relisted in AfD


 * 2007/Fe5 *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_February_5
 * fiction press. Contested sppedy--great majority for send to AfD. *


 * 2007/Fe6 *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_February_6
 * Agent M (member of band) appeal from speedy--unanimous DR opinion to send to AfD. for discussion
 * Miss Nude Universe speedy by Bremerman, restored by author,taken direct to DR by Bremerman--almost unan for AfD.


 * 2007/Fe9 *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_February_9
 * last for one. Contested speedy, almost unam for AfD.
 * 2007/Fe10 *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_February_10
 * SChat aqua, almost unan for overturn and discuss
 * Jcink.com apparent appeal from speedy without AfD
 * KKE Architects. apparent appeal from speedy without AfD
 * KKE Architects. apparent appeal from speedy without AfD


 * 2007/Fe11 *[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_February_11

Indiv at speedy

 * NawlinWiki
 * Garrieirons
 * WebHamster

wine searcher
Wine-Searcher opened up the wine trade by providing full price transparency within wine retailing. Traditionally the pricing policies of retailers for older wines, and their availability and distribution of those wines, was hidden from all those outside of a very small group of international wine brokers. The prices charged by different retailers varied widely even within small regions. Since 2002, Wine-Searcher has become the main reference source used by the wine trade to establish market value. It has also become more common for high-end wine enthusiasts to also act as collectors/traders of older vintages, that is, as well as purchasing wines for storage and later drinking many enthusiasts now also sell some of their older wines back to the market. Wine-Searcher provides a free service for the casual wine drinker, and a comprehensive “Professional Version” for $29.95 (USD) per year. Other functionality includes a detailed breakdown of the world’s wine regions, a directory of wine stores by region, rankings of wines by search frequency, and the ability for collectors to advertise their excess wines for sale. speedy by Hu12, (WP:CSD#A7) (my action: hangon) author not notified. DGG 01:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC) (but was speedied none the less)--I should have removed the tag.
 * Wine-Searcher.com provides a Google-like search for wines across the price lists of wine merchants, wineries, and wine auction houses world wide. Wine-Searcher started in 1999 and these days lists more than 7500 wine retailers price lists with over 2,000,000 pricing entries (as of July, 2006)

Bryan Wharton
"Article does not demonstrate notability of subject or adequately reference information. Request for improvement has gone uncorrected." -- TheMindsEye DG:wikified. Obviously notable, look at the text. my revision of it: Unreferenced|date=January 2007}}: Bryan Wharton (born 1939) is a [[United Kingdom|British photographer. Recently Wharton was approached by the [[National Portrait Gallery  in [[London]  who have since purchased sixteen of his pictures for their collection. After four years with the then broadsheet [[Daily Expres s, the only newspaper at that time to give space and importance to photographs, Bryan Wharton joined the [[Sunday Times  at the beginning of 1964. The Sunday Times, under the new ownership of Roy Thomson (later [[Lord Thomson ]), was shedding it's sedate image, and was seeking news trained photographers to join it`s young team of reporters. This proved to be a fortunate move, for The Sunday Times became a most exciting newspaper, in a  remarkably eventful period. "It was a privilege to work with the highest level of talent especially under the Editorship of Harry Evans"{{fact   During the next 19 years Wharton travelled to a many parts of the World, and most of Britain and Ireland.   His work was published in all the major magazines, [[Life], [[Paris Match  [[Stern , etc. In 1992, having previously taken part in many exhibitions, he was persuaded by colleagues, and a generous sponsor, to attempt a one-man show in London. It proved to be a success, and thereafter was shown in Dublin at the Writers Museum. While Wharton was a war photographer ([[Lebanon] , [[Egypt , [[Yemen] , [[Cambodia] ) whose work in the Paris student riots of 1968 left him with CS gas-damaged lungs, it is his portraits of famous people, often savagely revealing, that endure.Wharton lives in an old ecclesiatical building in Chelase,

Bonner
*John Bonner is a lecturer with the rank of professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary biology at Princeton University. He uses cellular slime molds to understand evolution and development. Before Bonner, slime molds were almost never studied. He is the emeritus George M. Moffet professor. He was trained at Harvard between 1937 and 1947, aside from a stint in the US Air Corps from 1942 to 1946. His PhD studies were interrupted by this stint in the Air Corps, so he completed his studies in an unusually short period of time. He was the chairman of the Princeton Biology Department between 1966 and 1977. He holds 3 honorary doctorates and is an American Association for the Advancement of Science fellow. He was a visiting scholar at the Indian Institute of Science in 1993 and the Indian Academy of Sciences in 1990. He has also been visiting faculty at Brooklyn College, Williams College and University College, London. He also was a Sheldon Traveling Fellow in 1941 in Panama and Cuba while in graduate school, a Rockefeller Traveling Fellow 1953 in Paris, France, and held Guggenheim Fellowships in 1958 and from 1971-1972 in Edinburgh, Scotland. He held an NSF Senior Postdoctoral Fellowship in Cambridge, England in 1963. He also had Commonwealth Foundation Book Fund Fellowships in 1971 and between 1984 and in 1985 Edinburgh, Scotland and a Josiah Macy, Jr. Foundation Book Fund Fellowship in 1978 in Edinburgh, Scotland. He has written an amazing array of biology and evolution books, and has produced a number of well-known popular works in biology. Some of his books include: * The Cellular Slime Molds * The Evolution of Complexity by Means of Natural Selection [Review] * The Evolution of Culture in Animals * Life Cycles * Morphogenesis: an Essay on Development * On Development: The Biology of Form * Cells and Societies * First Signals * The Ideas of Biology * Sixty Years of Biology * Size and Cycle * Why Size Matters: From Bacteria to Blue Whales His autobiography, "Lives of a Biologist: Adventures in a Century of Extraordinary Science" won the 2002 ForeWord Magazine Book of the Year Award. He was born in 1920. He has 4 children. His wife is deceased. He has vacationed in Nova Scotia yearly for over 40 year. --- User:adam12901 placed SPEFDY, did not notify the author! author Filll added hangon. Not being the author, i could and did remove the tag altogether, after a little wikifying--& I asked the author to get proper citations. kept without further debate

James_W._Fordyce
James_W._Fordyce President of the Lasker Foundation SPEEDIED on J17 with note: au/subj protested: The entry on James Fordyce was created in recognition of the importance of the Lasker Foundation (which was already in Wikipedia, by another author) and its prizes, which are prominent in the medical scviences field and which are the subject of various news articles and other references that can be found online. The leaders of similar foundations and organizations are often listed in wikipedia, even when their names (as Fordyce's) may not be household names or widely known. Kindly sample google items relating to Mr. Fordyce, check out the lasker foundation website at www.laskerfoundation.org, and reconsider whether this bio. entry should be deleted. I am not a family member, nor a classmate, nor a work associate of Mr. Fordyce,not am I myself in the medical fields, nor have I ever attended a Lasker Foundation event. Instead, I learned about the foundation second-hand, and thinking he was a Yale graduate, I first added him there, as I have been working on Yale-related entries recently. When I quickly discovered my error about his Alma Mater, I put him at the Univ. of Pennsylvania, where he belonged, rather than delete my article, because I believed he was prominent by virtue of his position. Aloha Kaneohe 03:08, 18 January 2007 (UTC) other ed commented: This shouldn't have been marked a "speedy" in my opinion. It should be re-worked and the notability specifically declared. I'd like to see more, but the notability of the person is clear I commented: Right, only it is enough to provide material that asserts notability : eg, it is not necessary to say, abraham Lincoln, the notable american president. It does help make it clearer to those who never heard of the guy. But not having heard of someone is no justification for a speedy. It is irresponsible to use rapid process in unfamiliar subject fields without carefully reading the article. Unless it is incontestably non-notable, A7 or other speedy does not apply.
 * SPEEDY by "______

Article: (not kept--process not clear)

J.J. Jelincic
J.J. Jelincic, the president of the California State Employees Association (CSEA) comment from anon speedier:I'm a bit concerned that all the info in this article appears to come from [this biography page]. Does this person really meet WP:BIO? -- 66.159.216.215 05:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I said: This is no reason for a speedy--speedy is for when you are altogether satisfied that there is no reasonable way the person could be notable. It is not intended for when there is doubt. I am confident he is notable, and the article just needs more sources. Missing sources is not among the reasons for speedy. If you really think otherwise, please reread the CSD page. . DGG 06:32 kept without further debate

Steven Hager
ed. of High Times. (etc) ID'd for speedy by bot  NPWatcher    then speedied by  Patricknoddy (Speedy A7) did notify author I replied and said to the author:"I not being the author saw it, and of course removed the tag & knew enough to add some refs. . But you should have added the refs yourself. Go add some more, because I did not document all of his career, particularly the films. If you dont do it right, those who do not know of the person often don't understand. Not their fault."

Paolo Costa
Was PROD
 * "Paolo Costa (born July 23, 1943 in Venice) is an Italian Member of the European Parliament. He was elected on the Olive Tree ticket and sits with the Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe group.

Before entering politics he held several University posts in Planning and Economics and served as Rector of Ca' Foscari University in Venice ([1992 ]-[1996 ). He was a member of Venice City Council ([1997 -[2000 ) and Mayor of Venice ([2000]-[2005]). He was Italian Minister for Public Works (1996-1998). On July 23, 2004 he was elected Chair of the Committee on Transport and Tourism."

I said on the talk p.: "I note that it asserts in the article that he is a member of the European Parliament, Minister of the Interior in Italy, and pro-Rector of a University. This is surely assertion enough, and the tag should never have been placed.
 * On further consideration, I have decided not to place the AfD tag myself, because i filled in a little more information from the EU official site, and hope that Junebug52 will agree on notability.  He is notable as a politican, and probably as an academic. He is obviously notable as a politician:

Any one of these should be enough.
 * Minister for Public Works in Italy (not Minister of the Interior, my error above)
 * Mayor of Venice
 * Member of European Parliament
 * Chair of a committee in the European Parliament

He was full Professor and then pro-Rector of an Italian university, a position that corresponds to University President in the US. He is probably notable as an academic, I haven't yet looked for information about published work, and it should be added for a complete article, but it isn't necessary to show notability for him. He does meets criterion 10, a full professorship at a major university, but that's still a disputed criterion.

It is perhaps relevant that a prod nn is supposed to be used only for articles which do not assert notability, and the article asserted it. It does not have the word notability in the first sentence--but that is not the requirement. Procedure is also relevant. See above about replacing removed prod tags, and placing tags on article talk pages (they dont need to go there because if the article is deleted, so is the talk page)

As for ghits, there are a number of people by this name. Searching under "Paolo Costa" Italy I find 265,000, but many are of the musician or the computer scientist or the scultptor by that name., and even what may be another politician, Italy's Permanent Representative to the UN in Geneva Searching with "Paolo Costa" italy parliament gives 924 ghits. Of the first 100, after removing directory listings, duplicates, translations, and WP-based items, 79 were about him, anout 2/3 about his EU activities, 1/3 Ital, particularly Venice. That = 730, quite a large number for an European politician. The article is obviously expandable and verifiable. (And I didnt even start looking for the academic papers yet.) added the expand tag as a reminder to add the academic work and the details about the political workDGG 21:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC) (version after I added data is: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paolo_Costa&oldid=99825651)

prodding editors first comment: "Article lacks notability and little information can be found on subject." editors 2nd comment: "This article does not have any notable distinction to it at all. The Google hits are minimum and upon research there is not much info to be found" Ed. did not notify original or later authors. kept without further debate

STING
PRODDED
 * STING (Sequence To and withIN Graphics) is a free Web-based suite of programs for a comprehensive analysis of the relationship between protein sequence, structure, function, and stability. STING is freely accessible at EMBRAPA Information Technology (CNPTIA)- Brazil or at any of its mirrors sites La Plata University - Argentina, Kyushu Institute of Technology - Japan, Columbia University - USA. [etc. a long article, there since Jan3 06, dozens of refs and links,] comment by TimVickers:"These programs have been referred to multiple peer-reviewed papers."

prod N without comment by ed. with no other contributions. 05:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC) kept and greatly expanded by several eds



[[Bankside Open Spaces Trust ]
. "Fails WP:ORG as far as I can tell" (sponsored by most major London charities and relevant community organizations, as a G search would reveal. kept without further debate

[[Edmonds_Unitarian_Universalist_Church
"church" http://www.euuc.org   (possibly NN, but for an AfD to decide) kept without further debate -- so far Fe07

Scleroderma Research Foundation
"npov dispute, advertisement"  (there's another organization, the Scleroderma Foundation, but there was no sign of a dispute on the SRF page. ) the SF needs an article too, most likely. DGG 05:35, 14 January 2007 (UTC) kept with cleaup

Rolf Rodenstock
(famous optical manufacturer.) Dicklyon commented "I'm going to remove the prod. I think this guy is famous in the camera business, and the German wiki has plenty of info we can incorporate here when we get around to it. And here are a bunch of book hits about him. The "not notable" claim sounds unlikely to me in face of this evidence"
 * "Article does not indicate notability", prodder commented subsequently "Adding it back. You haven't shown his importance. When you do, you show the importance instead of imply it here, that is different. until then, you haven't proven his importance.
 * D. commented further "OK, I've translated the contents from the Germin wiki and found some other sources and added some more info and refs. By the way, it is never proper to put back a "prod" that has been removed, as it tells you in the comment.

kept without further debate

Robert Maloney (doctor)

 * original prod: CSD A7
 * On AfD: Contested speedy. So mostly a procedural nomination. This doctor is known as an expert of LASIK. Earlier versions of the article were badly inappropriate [1]. I doubt that there is much value in the current article but arguably meets WP:BIO. Pascal.Tesson 19:23, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
 * AfD comment Delete - looks like somebody posted their resume. Unless I were shopping for a doctor, which is not appropriate here, I cannot see the value of the present article. Magichands 19:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Afd comment (anon.) First post was against the guidelines but it was more of a history of the guy. I found it and posted it. If I did it wrong I then tried to make it right but I guess you guys don't want it. Fits in with this: Notability on Wikipedia for people is based on the following criterion: The person has been a primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person.1 This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, magazine articles, books, scholarly papers, and television documentaries2

And Rhodes Scholar. there was so much I didn't spot it the first time through. I'm going to have to abridge the bibliography; it is not up to date anyway, there will be more by now. DGG 01:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC) it actually was a contested prod, not a speedy. .DGG 02:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC) [actually appar both]
 * My AfD comment: Strong keep The major media references are enough. Whether or not he is noted as a scientist, or noted as a physician, he would be noted as a video personality on major networks. Six of them. And then, looking at what is called the "badly inappropriate" earlier version, I find in his CV sufficient documentation of notability as a physician. Sure, we don't want the whole thing, but I've added back the key positions, and awards, and editorships, and the over 50 peer-reviewed papers in top-rate journals; and the patents--I almost forgot the 4 or 5 patents. All clinical research, not fundamental science, but that counts just as much. I can get the PubMed citations if challenged. Good case for not relying on speedy for N, & I'm glad someone contested it. DGG 01:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Record: kept after AfD
 * original ("inappropriate") version
 * version after speedy/prod Dr. Robert Maloney was born in Los Angeles, California in 1962. His present position is as director of the Maloney Vision Institute. Dr. Robert Maloney is best known as the LASIK doctor on ABC's television show, Extreme Makeover. Dr. Robert Maloney has also been featured as an industry spokesman for Discovery Channel, The Learning Channel, NBC's Extra, ABC's 20/20 and Primetime Live.
 * version at AfD
 * current version:

Paul K Chu
this one fortunately made it through to AfD after a SPEEDY (I did not include:  Didn't anyone follow the link to the university site? I imagine my 3 fellow eds. will now change their votes.  Perhaps in the future they could do some of the work of checking the obvious listed sources for people in impressive sounding positions. Sometimes they're genuine. ) version I found: After my editing: kept after AfD
 * Marasmusine (Talk | contribs) ({{db-bio], again)
 * Mangojuice (Talk | contribs) (moving to AfD)
 * nominator: Article on a professor. The article claims enough to meet WP:PROF, but this is the third time the article has been created by User:Pkchu, and the notability rests on claims like "Prof. Chu is one of the world experts in plasma surface modification of materials." for which there are no sources and for which, personally, I don't think we can take the subject's word (no offense).  Delete as a WP:VANITY article. [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]...16:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. Flyingtoaster1337 17:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The claims are not backed up,  nor is any notability claims made/proven.  Tomstdenis 18:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
 * My comment:
 * keep City U Hong Kong is a major univ, ,and he's department chair. IEEE Tran. Polymer Science is a decent journal, and he's ed. in chief. People do not get such positions without  impressive lists of publications, so I checked quickly in  google scholar and found 366 hits, which normally means at least 100 papers when you sort them out. I found his publication list on the university website. Look at the article to see what I found. I just summarized the numbers, because I havent't the energy to copy and paste all of them and get them lined up properly.  Pkchu is apparently a very modest man indeed. "world expert' is probably exactly the right term, but I changed it to what could be objectively documented: internationally known .  Now I shouldn't have had to do this. Someone who knows him should have. But how did he get deleted 2X and almost a 3rd time?

Raymond Warren
not my rescue: SPEEDY Raymond Warren MA MusD (Cantab): Emeritus Professor of Music. comments:Article's speedy deletion has been contested by article's creator, who asserts notability. Procedural nomination; no vote — mholland 16:11, 22 January 2007 (UTC) Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletions. -- Pete.Hurd 16:23, 22 January 2007 (UTC) kept after AfD
 * 08:44, January 21, 2007 Tellyaddict (Talk | contribs) (db-bio}
 * Raymond Warren is certainly a significant composer. He has an entry in Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians, and was Stanley Hugh Badock Professor of Music at Bristol University for over 20 years.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Olebin (talk • contribs) 21 January 2007, 12:48.
 * [There have been added] some sources and links which appear to have confirmed the notability of Raymond Warren as the subject of a Wikipedia article. A third link to Grove Online has been added today. Olebin 10:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * 11:45, January 22, 2007 Tellyaddict (Talk | contribs) (second {{db-bio}]
 * 12:11, January 22, 2007 Mholland (Talk | contribs) (This deletion has already been contested - moving AfD)
 * Delete This article is not notable in any way and should be deleted from Wikipedia. Tellyaddict 16:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Listed in the Grove Dictionary; good enough for me as to notability. Geoffrey Spear 19:22, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - I agree that a Grove listing is sufficient. -- Bpmullins | Talk 20:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Easily sufficient, WP:NOT#PAPER —siroχo 11:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * keep Grove listing is indeed sufficient, especially when it has a bibliography with two titles attached to it (that means it has even more independant sources) Mgm|(talk) 12:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep - Grove listing is sufficient. JoshHolloway 17:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Yap

 * (at AFD) Miranda Yap, AfD, although member of national acad of engineering. (kept in the afd)

-

Context
The article (I'm not the author) that you have tried twice to speedy on different grounds has exactly the analogous content to all the other articles on Icelandic presidential elections, which are listed in the chronobox.Didnt you check? No context? The context is Iceland. Speedy on this was not justified at all. Please don't hamper the effective use of speedy by over-using it. I see you want to be come an admin.; you might well  get there, but only if you work is a little more careful.DGG 04:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC) kept after discussion
 * my comment:==Iceland Presidential Election, 1983==

process

 * Allen H. Greenfield Page was speedily deleted as G8, even though was (and still is) being examined for deleted at WP:AFD, i.e. was in existence.  Since I don't think G8 was proper and since the page may have a bearing on the deletion discussion, I'm requesting the page be undeleted. Jackhorkheimer 08:10, 3 February 2007 (UTC) (deleted by NawlinWiki)--appar. by mistake, NawlinWiki also restored it.
 * A speedy tag was on this but seems to have disappeared in the move. This is a good solid article, and a historic subject. I'd be happy for it to be kept, or otherwise merged with the parents' article. Tyrenius 02:39, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

My mistake I tagged the article before it was wikified. At that point I couldn't tell that she was both the daughter and the mother of important people as I know nothing about Methodism and the links weren't there. At that point seemed to me to be about a person who led an interesting life but asserted no notability and had some religious POV issues. I tag a lot of articles and I do make a mistake here and there, my apologies and thanks to those of you who have worked to clean up the article. --Daniel J. Leivick 05:20, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I was checking new pages and this had a WP:SPEEDY tag, but it had 4 references. A few changes to make it look better, and it's a nice article. She seems pretty famous, too, although I don't know anything about Methodism. We should definitely keep this article. - Peregrine Fisher 05:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)


 * (Appeals from speedy to deletion review) List on Afd It id absurd for appeals from speedy to come directly here. This was agreed by all the editors participating in Miss Nude Universe a day ago, and the argument is just as good now. This is the final appeal step, and the place to consider whether a claim of notability was a sufficient claim is there. If a speedy tag is put on, and then removed by other-thann-author and the placer of the tag continues to feel it should be deleted, it should go to AfD. ( or perhaps to prod.  ). If a speedy is appealed by the author with hangon, and the admin thinks it should be speedied none the less, and the author continues to object, it should go to AfD.(The admin may be needed to undelete for the purpose. )

process during afds.

 * If you're going to list articles in AFD for speedy deletion, at least include the article number that applies. For an example, see here. Also, AFD is not a vote. You need a reason for delete other than just putting per nom. The point of AFD is to discuss the merit of keeping or deleting an article. Please see WP:PERNOM. --[[User:Cyrus Andiron|
 * The entire practice of independently speedying an article of AfD seems nonsensical, and I cannot see its purpose. If an AfD nom. is so clearly worth deletion, 3 or 4 people agree immediately. AfD should take precedence over anything, and a speedy close should be decided on only there. (I know this isnt the present rule, but the apparently arbitrary speedies referred to by several eds above indicate why it might be a good idea. ) (this referring to User_talk:Thewinchester.)

Bad Speedies

 * by User:Lectonar
 * Easyjjet flight 320 -- not a keepable article, but not A7
 * A7 Packet Media Ltd not A7;
 * A11 9.9 Media, Doaba headlines, Strategy Runner,Marathwada Mitra Mandal's Shankarrao Chavan Law College all fixable
 * summary: 30 assays, 18 good, 8 borderline, 4 bad,

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