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Afrikaners
Hi Discott. Just posted a 5-point reply, but my connection cut out and lost it. I am trying to remember what I wrote. Will post soonest. Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 17:59, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Let's see if I remembered everything.
 * Firstly, the author's paper is about something else, so any reference to Afrikaners serves merely to strengthen an argument, it is NOT a statement about Afrikaners per se. Let's look for example at references to customary law - how do these relate to Afrikaners/ South Africa, which have followed Roman-Dutch Law for centuries? So, much as I accept your claim that the author is "a highly respected and regarded academic", that does not mean to say that every single fragment used has to stand up to scrutiny. On the practical level, if the majority of Afrikaners (the "poor Afrikaners") support the idea of the homeland and their own parties, why are they voting DA, why are they not all living at Orania? Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia (talk) 19:06, 9 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi Rui &#39;&#39;Gabriel&#39;&#39; Correia, thanks for getting back to me on this. Here are my responses in the order you gave yours to me.  1) It is true that the author's paper is about some thing else, however that does not disqualify it in any way from being a useful and informative source on another matter.  A great many references that make important contributions to subjects on Wikipedia are from sources that are not directly about that subject but mention it in passing.  A nice example is on the History of the Jews of Brazil, where a quote from Adam Smiths the Wealth of Nations is used to give greater historical context on their history in the country.  2) Your point about poor Afrikaners not supporting a Afrikaans homeland, as a broad sweeping statement, is a good one and if it is used in that article it might be best to reword it somewhat so as to make it less of a generalisation.  However as a statement about what Mamdani has observed as to the political constituency within the Afrikaans community that tends to support the idea of a homeland it remains true and so should be included.  3) Additionally Mamdani's analysis add's an additional layer of context and analysis that, I feel, if much needed in that section of the page on Afrikaners after 1994.  In the wording I used it was made clear that it was his analysis so there should be no issue of it appearing as a universally accepted truth but rather, as it is, the informed opinion of a hightly respected academic -who specialises in African ethnicity and politics- as to their situation.--Discott (talk) 08:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Wikimedia South Africa AGM: 28 November
Hi Discott.

Thanks for the invitation. Unfortunately I will be in Durban at that time. My email address is: jacobmacmillanza@gmail.com, thanks.Jacobmacmillan (talk) 15:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I will add you to the AGM chat invite list. It will be a live event so you will need to login at that time on the 28th.--Discott (talk) 15:54, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Discott,

Thanks - will try my best to make it BookshelfZA (talk) 18:19, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks BookshelfZA, looking forward to seeing you there. Welcome to stay/also come to the Wiki Loves Monuments awards ceremony at 5:30pm for 6:00pm at the same place and date. --Discott (talk) 10:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Gupta family
Hi Discott, I’ve seen that you recently created Gupta family and that you’ve made several additions to it over the last few days. As stated on my user page, I am a representative of Oakbay Resources and Energy and would welcome a discussion with you on certain areas of the article which might benefit from some balance. I’ve been working on a few possible additions to the current version in my sandbox. As you’ll see, I’m suggesting additional content supported by reliable secondary sources, not proposing that anything is removed.

The main points of what I’ve proposed are:


 * The inclusion of some more companies owned/part-owned by the Guptas under ‘Interests’ (note that three of these rely on a primary source, namely Oakbay’s 2015 Annual Report – that’s the only time I’ve used one here).


 * The Gupta family’s response to allegations of undue influence on the presidency.


 * A response by India’s High Commissioner to the Waterkloof air force base controversy.


 * Some more detail on Oakbay’s mining operations.


 * Zuma’s response to the allegations surrounding Nhlanhla Nene’s dismissal.


 * Mosebenzi Zwane’s response to allegations surrounding Tegeta.


 * Some more detail on the recent court order.

These proposed additions are highlighted in blue; there are a couple of strikethroughs as well.

If you could have a look at these suggestions and leave feedback there or on my talk page that would be much appreciated. I will follow Wikipedia policy on COI editing at all times. Thanks. OakbayRep (talk) 11:05, 19 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi OakbayRep. Thank you very much for the feedback and input.  I have looked through the working page on the Gupta family on your sandbox.  I think you have made a number of valuable additions to the Gupta family article which add a great deal of depth and help promote a NPOV, and therefor should be used on the main space article. So good in fact I would guess that you are a long time Wikipedia editor (not that that matters very much to me either which way).  Good job.  I from what I have seen of the article on your sandbox as of writing this message I feel you should add all of the proposed additions to the page in question.--Discott (talk) 12:58, 19 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Discott, thanks very much for this feedback. Strictly speaking as a COI editor I’d prefer not to make a direct edit to the article itself, but I’ve now amended the sandbox to remove all the mark-ups and strikethroughs. I have also made a few punctuation changes. Would you be happy just to transfer this straight across? Hope that’s okay.OakbayRep (talk) 15:57, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

hi again, just wondering if you might be okay to transfer what’s here (it's ready to go - no highlighted text or strikethroughs) to the main article space? I know you gave me the go-ahead to do it myself but with my COI I’d prefer to leave it to you if possible. Let me know otherwise I’d be okay to do it if necessary. Thanks very much. OakbayRep (talk) 06:01, 23 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi OakbayRep, I feel that it would be better if you rather made those contributions. I think that it is not a series breach of COI and if others have any concerns about it then we can discuss it on the article's talk page.  There is precedence for this kind of thing so I am sure people will be okay with it so long as it adheres to other editing conventions and rules which it seems to me as though it does.--Discott (talk) 08:58, 23 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Discott, no problem at all – that’s done. Thanks again for looking at it. OakbayRep (talk) 17:36, 23 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Discott, there are a few things that could do with updating in Gupta family – see here in my sandbox as before for a marked up version with additions in blue. Let me know what you make of it. Regarding your discussion here – isn't it standard policy that COI editors don't make direct edits to pages? I'm happy to make any changes we agree but I was under the impression that strictly speaking that's not something a COI editor can do. OakbayRep (talk) 00:32, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi, it is very kind of you (although not necessary) to let me know every time you wish to update a particular page on Wikipedia. It is indeed standard policy that COI editors should avoid making edits on pages that concern them but it is also not set in stone from what I understand. What is set in stone is that one should never plagiarise. Apart from the fact I am simply not comfortable editing Wikipedia on anyone's behalf (especially someone with COI regarding the article in question) I cannot add the content you have written as it would be plagiarism which is a pretty serious offence on Wikipedia. As such I would advise -and this might not be very good advice as others on Wikipedia are likely to know the policies regarding COI and paid editing in particular better than me- to continue to edit the article yourself. Keep in mind however that the policy regarding paid editing points out that "paid editors must follow the guidelines on COI very carefully." I suggest you do just that. However you seem to be pretty adapt editor already judging from your style of editing and knowledge of Wiki bureaucracy & rules. As for the content you have suggested adding. There are a few additions which seem out of place on a Wikipedia page such as the mention that SizweNtsalubaGobodo is "South Africa's biggest black-owned auditing firm." Don't know why that is relevant to the page in question other than to present the company in a possibly positive light, which means it could be (rightly in my view) interpreted as being promotional which as you know is not allowed on Wikipedia. I could comment on every proposed addition but that would be more effectively and better done on the Wikipedia page its self. As is the nature of Wikipedia. Having said all of that a number of your proposed edits do seem to promote a greater level of NPOV and update the article some what which is a good thing.--Discott (talk) 16:24, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Discott, thanks for your response. I've updated the article. I see your point about the mention of SizweNtsalubaGobodo and I left that out. I get your reasoning for not editing on another's behalf, but thanks for replying anyway and ping me if you have any concerns. OakbayRep (talk) 22:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Discott – just to make you aware that I've added some new info to Gupta family, namely some of the figures that were reported this month from their annual results, some new info regarding Eskom and the CEO's response to the termination of their banking relationships. Thanks. OakbayRep (talk) 23:35, 4 October 2016 (UTC)
 * OakbayRep - please discuss changes to Gupta family the article at Talk:Gupta family, not here. No-one "owns" a page and it's not appropriate to ask one user for permission to update it - your edits have to comply with Wikipedia guidelines, and it's up to the community as a whole to keep an eye on that. Zaian (talk) 19:05, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
 * 's point that no article is 'owned' by any one on Wikipedia is absolutely correct and I would like to echo it. I have said it before (perhaps not strongly enough) and I will say it again that these sorts of things are better discussed on the relevant article's talk page.  I strongly suggest that you move these updates to the Gupta family talk page so the broader community can participate in them more easily.--Discott (talk) 19:51, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

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List of South African Artists
I doubt that reference to http://artthrob.co.za/04mar/artbio.html meets wp:notability (people) Please read. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 14:04, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, please expand on why you feel it does not meet wp:notability (people). It seems to fit the requirements to me.Discott (talk) 14:09, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

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Unsourced dyslexia category
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Note: Please review and undo all your recent edits where you added the Dyslexia category to people where the article does not explicitly mention dyslexia. I already have reverted some. Thank you. - DVdm (talk) 20:58, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * , thank you for your message. Two things, you can find references for all of the dyslexia category additions I have made on the List of people diagnosed with dyslexia page, secondly I am not aware that one needs references on the page being categorised to add a category to that page.  I will look into that now.  I am somewhat perturbed by, what seems to be, the hasty accusation towards me that I am engaging in "vandalism".  I would suggest investigate such editing activities further before making accusations.--Discott (talk) 20:58, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * That list of people diagnosed with dyslexia does not count in any way as a reliable source—see wp:CIRCULAR. My apologies for that second warning. That was a wrong button. I have replaced it with the proper warning. But of course, this way of edting might be interpreted as vandalism if you would continue adding this category to articles without it being backed up by a sourced mention in the article. - DVdm (talk) 21:04, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Note:By the way, you can of course take the opportunity to add a sourced mention in the articles. I.o.w. before you add the category, verify the article, find a source, mention it in the article, and then add the cat. That way, you can improve the articles, and perhaps at the same time that list. Just a thought. - DVdm (talk) 21:09, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * , thanks for the prompt reply. I fear my previous comment might have been misinterpreted.  I did not mean to say that the article was in and of its self a satisfactory reference for engaging in this categorisation exercise (I agree entirely that had that been the case it would not be in line with wp:CIRCULAR); but instead meant to rather say that the references for each name on that particular page were satisfactory for the purpose.
 * I want to add that in response to your request I have halted all dyslexic related categorisation efforts but, until the merits of this categorisation process is discussed further, have decided not to undo the edits in question. I look forward to your feedback on this issue and apologise for any inconvenience you feel this might have caused.--Discott (talk) 21:13, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Do I take it that you count on other people to undo your inappropriate work? - DVdm (talk) 21:20, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * If you take it that way then I fear you might be misinterpreting me again and possibly jumping to conclusions. Whilst I can see why you might feel that a number of the edits in question are inappropriate, clearly I do not regard them as being inappropriate (or else I would concede to your demand).  What I am expecting is some form of discussion/proof/conciseness as to why it might be regarded as inappropriate when I can point to a source which clearly has each and every entry with its own reference.  What I am wondering, and indeed still searching for, is something that says something along the lines of "a category has to be referenced on the page upon which it appears."  I could add a mention to each of the articles in question saying something along the lines of "this person has been diagnosed with dyslexia" but I am not convinced that, for some but not all of the articles in question, this is the sort of thing that has to 'live' on the body of the article or that it might qualify as a substantive enough addition to that article to justify its explicit addition.  I can't articulate why but somehow it troubles me that I might have to add something like "X is dyslexic" it sort of feels like one has to have something like "Y is Jewish (or what ever)" to every article before it can be categorised thusly.  Perhaps that is the case, perhaps not. I want to first see if I can find anything about this on Categorization. I am also curious as to where a reference for a category might live on a page if that information is not held in the body of that article.  I am sorry if I might appear difficult on this but at least it is producing some form of dialogue on the issue.--Discott (talk) 21:57, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I and other editors, who happen to have some of the articles on their watchlists, undid your inappropriate additions. I also undid your latest addition to the list:, as clearly blogs and personal websites are not considered to be reliable sources. User also removed some inappropriate stuff from the page:.
 * Please be very careful adding categories to articles about people, specially about living people-see wp:BLPCAT. - DVdm (talk) 22:02, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * This is related to another issue I've been meaning to raise at the village pump. I will make a post there and notify you about it. DVdm is correct that you must be very careful about adding categories to biographies of living people. I'll review some of the edits in a few minutes. A few of the sources on that stand-alone list article seems questionable.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 22:04, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I am grateful that it has produced a closer look at the List of people diagnosed with dyslexia article and started a discussion on the village pump. I will start undoing some of the edits I made as I now feel the balance of doubt in my mind on this issue as changed in favour of the points DVdm has raised. There is still something deeper about all of this that I cant quite pin down or articulate (and has nothing to do with any of us editors or Wikipedia regulations) that bothers me about this.  I am going to need to think about this more deeply.--Discott (talk) 22:13, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Indeed. I suspect there's some blog-type sources and sources with amateuristic pseudo-back-in-time-diagnosis in there. By definition, dyslexia can never have been diagnosed with anyone living before 1880 or so.
 * I have verified all the biography articles. I only left those where dyslexia is mentioned at least once—with or even without source, alas. - DVdm (talk) 22:15, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I randomly chose Ferdinand Piëch from your edit history, the article didn't mention dyslexia and the list of people had a reference that failed to verify it (it was a dead link)Theroadislong (talk) 22:36, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I have done a brief review of my edits and it seems all the offending/misplaced category tags (articles that have not mentioned dyslexia in the body of the article but have the tag) have already been weeded out (very effective of everyone). I also see that a few of articles have had some additions made to them.  I agree with your concerns over the reliability over some of the sources and the "amateuristic pseudo-back-in-time-diagnosis", I also find that concerning.  I am less convinced that dyslexia can never be diagnosed with anyone living before 1880 as there is a genetic component to it that when combined with 'family lore' can provide some solid proof of the condition as is the case with one of the people on the list from whom I inheritade it from.  I am also not so sure how relevant that is to Wikipedia without a good reference to back it up.  I do think that there is an argument to be made for West's reference in 4d being used as a reliable source in this case but again also agree that a stronger reference should be used if one can be found.  However that is a somewhat different issue.  Sorry for all the trouble (and initial intransigence) but I am glad about all the input from everyone on this issue.--Discott (talk) 22:48, 7 March 2016 (UTC)


 * See Village_pump_(idea_lab) if you're interested.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) Please &#123;&#123;re&#125;&#125; 22:49, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks  Eve rgr een Fir , I am afraid I am going to have to give my feedback on this tomorrow though as it is very late in the night where I am right now.--Discott (talk) 22:53, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Keanu cheered me up today 😀🇮🇪
I was fed up today. My Irish passport is being renewed and it's stuck in the London office for 6 weeks. I won't have it back till March 31 St and meant to be travelling to India on Easter Saturday. My decorator is on a pub crawl for 5 days and was meant to show up today and didn't. I am still getting Solicitors letters from my ex husband 6 and a half years later and we are divorced. We met at 16, have 4 children and he is with a woman for over 6 years now and won't leave me alone. I'm watching John Wick with a tub of ice cream. I have been to Mass and gym and chilling out now. Rita Cubitt .. E mail. Indiar48@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.170.198 (talk) 13:45, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Explicate?
Question about the wording in your recent comment on WP:Village pump (idea lab)... You wrote "This sounds fair. I would also advocate erring on the side of the person in question. I also agree that it should be explicate so something like "I have dyslexia" is okay." I wondered if you meant "explicit"? I'm not trying to be the vocab police, but I wasn't sure I understood what you were saying. Permstrump (talk) 16:11, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing this out. It is fittingly ironic that I would miss-spell something on a conversation that includes a condition that effects spelling.  I did indeed mean to say "explicit."  I put too much trust in my spell checker.--Discott (talk) 16:45, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Hahaha! I didn't think of that before. Permstrump (talk) 05:53, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Great_Trek_map_full.png
Very useful map. If you can change Trichardt to Tregardt is would be more in line with current, and Tregardt's own usage. JMK (talk) 11:11, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * , thanks. I have just updated the map.--Discott (talk) 11:48, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Great Trek map full.png
And on the same map: all killed in 1836, not 1938. JMK (talk)
 * Super, thanks! JMK (talk) 11:53, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Do you want one Edit tab, or two? It's your choice
The editing interface will be changed soon. When that happens, editors who currently see two editing tabs – "Edit" and "Edit source" – will start seeing one edit tab instead. The single edit tab has been popular at other Wikipedias. When this is deployed here, you may be offered the opportunity to choose your preferred appearance and behavior the next time you click the Edit button. You will also be able to change your settings in the Editing section of Special:Preferences.

You can choose one or two edit tabs. If you chose one edit tab, then you can switch between the two editing environments by clicking the buttons in the toolbar (shown in the screenshots). See Help:VisualEditor/User guide#Switching between the visual and wikitext editors for more information and screenshots.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Decades in the 20th century
Template:Decades in the 20th century has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 00:00, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

WikiCup 2016 May newsletter


Round 2 is over and 35 competitors have moved on to Round 3.

Round 2 saw three FAs (two by and one by ), four Featured Lists (with three by ), and 53 Good Articles (six by  and five each by, , and ). Eleven Featured Pictures were promoted (six by and five by ). One Featured Portal, Featured Topic and Good Topic were also promoted. The DYK base point total was 1,135. scored 265 base points, while and  each scored 150 base points. Eleven ITN were promoted and 131 Good Article Reviews were conducted with completing a staggering 61 reviews. Two contestants, and, broke the 700 point mark for Round 2.

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Mfecane map is wrong
Hi

The Mfecane map appearing on the Mfecane page and on the Zulu or Shaka Zulu page is wrong. Bulawayo is misplaced.

The one here is more geographically accurate - though the movement arrows are not good: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mfecane+map&rlz=1C1LENP_enGB543GB559&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=799&tbm=isch&imgil=zJf57keipKnXcM%253A%253Bc-8VdqWwROSGzM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.mmaramotswerules.com%25252Fthe-mfecane--the-cobbing-controversy.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=zJf57keipKnXcM%253A%252Cc-8VdqWwROSGzM%252C_&usg=__jaUOs70VRwYKop-106yQSeCpKKA%3D&ved=0ahUKEwjqg_Ct8uPMAhUpD8AKHaZ-CbYQyjcIKQ&ei=CYQ8V6rbJqmegAam_aWwCw#imgrc=zJf57keipKnXcM%3A

Where the url above shows "Ndebele" is where Bulawayo is sited.

Randal Smith15:08, 18 May 2016 (UTC)86.153.157.59 (talk)


 * Hi Randal, the Buolawayo displayed at the map refers to Shaka's royal kraal and seat of government of the Zulu emplire (known as Bulawayo) and not Bulawayo the city in Zimbabwe which is what it seems you believe it is.--Discott (talk) 13:35, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for improving the African heavy metal article. Dwanyewest (talk) 19:00, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

White people in Zimbabwe
Hi there, I'm on my phone so haven't been able to look through that xls file very well - but can you point me to where it says 110,000 white Zimbabweans in the UK? So far as I can see there's no reference made to ethnicity or colour there, only place of birth and citizenship. If I've just missed it please let me know where to look. Cheers —  Cliftonian   (talk)  11:46, 19 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, I must admit that I was a bit lazy here and simply trusted the reference in the Zimbabweans in the United Kingdom here which quotes 110,000 people, a figure that can be found on 'Table 1.3: Overseas-born population in the United Kingdom by country of birth' of the ref. With hind sight I should have been more cautious when using this one as I think you are right to question whether it refers to white Zimbabweans only as I suspect it, infact, refers to all Zimbabweans. I suspect it is not that far off but my suspicion is not good enough.  Has been the best figure I can find so far.--Discott (talk) 13:21, 19 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the quick response - yes, I think the figure is probably somewhere close to that, but we'd need a source to back it up. Please do let me know if you find anything. Cheers —  Cliftonian   (talk)  13:50, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Editing News #2—2016
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The team is working with the volunteer developers who power Wikisource to provide the visual editor there, for opt-in testing right now and eventually for all users. (T138966)

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. It will look like the visual editor, and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices around September 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

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Reference errors on 7 July
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Contests
User:Dr. Blofeld has created WikiProject Africa/Contests. The idea is to run a series of contests/editathons focusing on each region of Africa. He has spoken to Wikimedia about it and $1000-1500 is possible for prize money. As someone who has previously expressed interest in African topics, would you be interested in contributing to one or assisting draw up core article/missing article lists? He says he's thinking of North Africa for an inaugural one in October. If interested please sign up in the participants section of the Contest page, thanks.♦ -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 01:15, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi, this sounds like a great project. I am currently (on behalf of Wikimedia ZA) running a number of edit-a-thons every other month.  Our next one is in November but I have already agreed do that one as part of Wikipedia Asian Month.  We have got another one planned for 21 January 2017.  In the mean time I am happy to help out with finding missing article lists and writing an article or two.  Here is a great list of African women biography articles that are needed on Wikipedia that Wiki Loves Women did earlier this year.--Discott (talk) 09:37, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Hertzoggie
Hello! Your submission of Hertzoggie at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:46, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 14:25, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

The WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter (August 2016)
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Reference errors on 27 August
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DYK for Hertzoggie
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WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter: September 2016
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Do I know you?
I think we might be neighbors. Please confirm my suspicion by answering the following questions: Is there incessant drilling and construction work in progress near your residence? Are there lots of cats around said residence?

I am number nine.

197.89.111.56 (talk) 20:28, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Might be where I used to live in Kenilworth. I moved very recently though.  On the other hand it might also be my doppelganger that supposedly also lives in Cape Town some where.--Discott (talk) 08:47, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

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WikiProject Food and drink Newsletter: October 2016
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Invite to the African Destubathon
Hi. You may be interested in participating in the African Destubathon which starts on October 15. Africa currently has over 37,000 stubs and badly needs a quality improvement editathon/contest to flesh out basic stubs. There are proposed substantial prizes to give to editors who do the most geography, wildlife and women articles, and planned smaller prizes for doing to most destubs for each of the 53 African countries, so should be enjoyable! Even if contests aren't your thing we would be grateful if you could consider destubbing a few African articles during the drive to help the cause and help reduce the massive 37,000 + stub count, of which many are rated high importance (think Regions of countries etc). If you're interested in competing or just loosely contributing, whether it's a river in Malawi, a Nigerian footballer, or a South African civil rights activist, please add your name to the Contestants/participants section. Diversity of work from a lot of people will make this that bit more special. For those of you who signed up to the North African contest, that will hopefully be held in the new year. Thanks. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Editing News #3—2016
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Future changes
The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the remaining 10 "Phase 6" Wikipedias during the next month. The developers want to know whether typing in your language feels natural in the visual editor. Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. This will affect several languages, including Thai, Burmese and Aramaic.

The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. The 2017 wikitext editor will look like the visual editor and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices in October 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

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Invitation to "target countries" discussion
Hello, Discott! Since you attended the Global South meeting at Wikimania 2016, we're inviting you to a discussion on "target countries". You can help the product team at the Wikimedia Foundation create a new list of countries and metrics to replace the "global south" concept in our process with something more relevant. Interested? Learn more about this discussion and share your perspective. (This message is available in more languages.) Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 00:17, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter: November 2016
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WikiCup 2016 November newsletter: Final results
The final round of the 2016 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2016 WikiCup top three finalists:
 * First Place -
 * Second Place -
 * Third Place -

In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:
 * Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a three-way tie with themselves for two FAs in each of R2, R3, and R5).
 * Good Article – MPJ-DK had 14 GAs promoted in R3.
 * Featured List – produced 2 FLs in R2
 * Featured Pictures – Adam Cuerden restored 18 images to FP status in R4.
 * Featured Portal – produced the only FPO of the Cup in R2.
 * Featured Topic – and Calvin were each responsible for one FT in R3 and R2, respectively.
 * Good Topic – MPJ-DK created a GT with 9 GAs in R5.
 * Did You Know – MPJ-DK put 53 DYKs on the main page in R4.
 * In The News – and, each with 5 ITN, both in R4.
 * Good Article Review – MPJ-DK completed 61 GARs in R2.

Over the course of the 2016 WikiCup the following content was added to Wikipedia (only reporting on fixed value categories): 17 Featured Articles, 183 Good Articles, 8 Featured Lists, 87 Featured Pictures, 40 In The News, and 321 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Wikipedia.--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:52, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

We will open up a discussion for comments on process and scoring in a few days. The 2017 WikiCup is just around the corner! Many thanks from all the judges. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. ,, and

WikiProject Good Articles's 2016-2017 GA Cup
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Welcome to Wikipedia Asian Month!
Hi there! Thanks for joining Wikipedia Asian Month. Here is some information about participating in the event: Best Wishes,--AddisWang (talk) 04:14, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) Please submit your articles via this tool. Click 'log in' at the top-right and OAuth will take care the rest. You can also change the interface language at the top-right.
 * 2) Once you submit an article, the tool will add a template to the article and mark it as needing review by an organizer. You can check your progress using the tool, which includes how many accepted articles you have.
 * 3) Participants who achieve 4 accepted articles will receive a Wikipedia Asian Month postcard. You will receive another special postcard if you achieve 15 accepted articles. The Wikipedian with the highest number of accepted articles on the English Wikipedia will be honored as a "Wikipedia Asian Ambassador", and will receive a signed certificate and additional postcard.
 * 4) If you have any problems accessing or using the tool, you can submit your articles at this page next to your username.
 * 5) Wikipedia Asian Month is also held in other language Wikipedia and count independently. Check for language editions
 * 6) If you have any question, you can take a look at our Q&A or post on the WAM talk page.


 * Thanks, working on it now.--Discott (talk) 08:51, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Contacting Barry Ronge
Do you know how one could contact Barry Ronge? Thanks!

Christo Snyman 173.70.198.226 (talk) 23:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Christo, I am afraid not. I have never met Mr Ronge so do not know how to contact him.  I just used sources on the internet that I could find about him to expand his page on Wikipedia--Discott (talk) 08:30, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

WikiCup December newsletter: WikiCup 2017
On 1 January 2017, WikiCup 2017 (the 10th Annual WikiCup) will begin. This year we are trying something a little different – monetary prizes.

For the WC2017 the prizes will be as follows (amounts are based in US$ and will be awarded in the form of an online Amazon gift certificate):
 * First place – $200
 * Second & Third place – $50 each
 * Category prizes – $25 per category (which will be limited to FA, FL, FP, GA, and DYK for 2017). Winning a category prize does not require making it to the final round.

Note: Monetary prizes are a one-year experiment for 2017 and may or may not be continued in the future. In order to be eligible to receive any of the prizes above, the competing Wikipedia account must have a valid/active email address. After two years as a WikiCup judge, Figureskatingfan is stepping down. We thank her for her contributions as a WikiCup judge. We are pleased to announce that our newest judge is two-time WikiCup champion Cwmhiraeth.

The judges for the 2017 WikiCup are, , and.

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Whose Knowledge? News - February 2017
Thanks for all of your support for Whose Knowledge? so far! Get ready, we're going to need lots of your help in 2017 :)

What's new in 2017:

1. Volunteers needed

''As Whose Knowledge? grows, there are lots of things to do! Can you help?''
 * Are you good with data entry, categories, mailing lists or social media? We especially need people to help with organizing knowledge for Dalit History Month, and building out our communications (including this monthly newsletter!) right now!
 * If you're interested in volunteering for these or any other projects, please signup here

2. Pilot projects

Building partnerships and testing our approach with marginalized communities.
 * Dalit History Month: We're working with Equality Labs to support Dalit communities in South Asia and the United States to map knowledge and create Wikipedia content. Dalit History Month edit-a-thons are coming in April!
 * Women's Human Rights Defenders: In partnership with Urgent Action Fund, we'll be supporting a group of women's human rights defenders around the world with more mapping and wiki content creation. Themes and geographies coming soon!
 * Kumeyaay Wikipedia Initiative: Following the 2016 Indigenous People's Day edit-a-thon, we're continuing to work with members of the Kumeyaay tribe in Southern California and Baja to map and contribute indigenous knowledge to Wikimedia projects. A discussion day with Kumeyaay community in San Diego is being planned for May.

3. Funding

We've got financial support for 2017!
 * WMF grant: 6-month funding (February-July 2017) was approved to pilot our approach to mapping knowledge and creating Wikipedia content with the Dalit community and global women's human rights defenders. Thanks for all your endorsements!
 * Shuttleworth Fellowship: Anasuya is a Shuttleworth Fellow! This means we'll be able to spend more time organizing, and have support for convenings, campaign infrastructure, etc.

4. Wikimedia Strategy

Find us at Wikimedia Conference.
 * Anasuya and Siko will be carrying the Whose Knowledge? vision of diversity, pluralism and representation of marginalized communities into movement strategy conversations in Berlin March 2017.
 * What's your vision for the Wikimedia movement? If you have a perspective that you'd like us to help represent in Berlin, please reach out and let us know!

In solidarity,

Siko (talk) 01:54, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

HAT Woordeboek for my friend in Berlin?
Douglas, any change you can take a HAT Woordeboek to User:JCIV in Berlin in March/April? Regards. Deon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oesjaar (talk • contribs) 19:57, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, so long as it is not too big, you can get it to me in Cape Town, and is prepared to pick it up form me when I am in Berlin, then sure thing.  How big is the book?--Discott (talk) 11:20, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Kindly Examine And Rate
Hello sir, could you be so kind as to visit this article created by me  Reverend King Ezeugo and check for grammatical errors, English structure problems and most importantly your view on the page, If there are certain areas you think I should delete or improve, a feedback would really be appreciated. Celestina007 (talk) 00:32, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

March 2017 WikiCup newsletter
And so ends the first round of the competition, with 4 points required to qualify for round 2. It would have been 5 points, but when a late entrant was permitted to join the contest in February, a promise was made that his inclusion would not result in the exclusion of any other competitor. To achieve this, the six entrants that had the lowest positive score of 4 points have been added to the 64 people who otherwise would have qualified. As a result, some of the groups have nine contestants rather than eight. Our top four scorers in round 1 were:


 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, last year's winner, led the field with two featured articles on birds and a total score of 674.
 * 🇪🇺 Iry-Hor, a WikiCup newcomer, came next with a featured article, a good article and a tally of 282 bonus points for a score of 517. All these points came from the article Nyuserre Ini, an Ancient Egyptian pharaoh,
 * 🇯🇵 1989, another WikiCup newcomer, was in joint third place at 240. 1989 has claimed points for two featured lists and one good article relating to anime and comedy series, all of which were awarded bonus points.
 * Peacemaker67 shared third place with five good articles and thirteen good article reviews, mostly on naval vessels. He is also new to the competition.

The largest number of DYKs have been submitted by Vivvt and The C of E, who each claimed for seven, and MBlaze Lightning achieved eight articles at ITN. Carbrera and Peacemaker67 each claimed for five GAs and Krishna Chaitanya Velaga was well out in front for GARs, having reviewed 32. No featured pictures, featured topics or good topics yet, but we have achieved three featured articles and a splendid total of fifty good articles.

So, on to the second round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 1 but before the start of round 2 can be claimed in round 2. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is a good article candidate, a featured process, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:52, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

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Murders per 100,000 people graph
There is no apostrophe in 'Murders'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.22.124.155 (talk) 16:01, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for spotting it, just fixed it.--Discott (talk) 10:51, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

May 2017 WikiCup newsletter
The second round of the competition has now closed, with just under 100 points being required to qualify for round 3. YellowEvan just scraped into the next round with 98 points but we have to say goodbye to the thirty or so competitors who didn't achieve this threshold; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Our top scorers in round 2 were:


 * 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Cas Liber, led the field with five featured articles, four on birds and one on astronomy, and a total score of 2049, half of which came from bonus points.
 * 🇯🇵 1989 was in second place with 826 points, 466 of which were bonus points. 1989 has claimed points mostly relating to anime and Japanese-related articles.
 * Peacemaker67 took third place with two FAs, one GA and seven GARs, mostly on naval vessels or military personnel, scoring 543 points.
 * Other contestants who scored over 400 points were Freikorp, Carbrera, and Czar. Of course all these points are now wiped out and the 32 remaining contestants start again from zero in round 3.

Vivvt submitted the largest number of DYKs (30), and MBlaze Lightning achieved 13 articles at ITN. Carbrera claimed for 11 GAs and Argento Surfer performed the most GARs, having reviewed 11. So far we have achieved 38 featured articles and a splendid 132 good articles. Commendably, 279 GARs have been achieved so far, more than double the number of GAs.

So, on to the third round. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 2 but before the start of round 3 can be claimed in round 3. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally.

If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article nominations, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 13:16, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Editing News #1—2017
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 Did you know?

Did you know that you can review your changes visually?

When you are finished editing the page, type your edit summary and then choose "". In visual mode, you will see additions, removals, new links, and formatting highlighted. Other changes, such as changing the size of an image, are described in notes on the side.



Click the toggle button to switch between visual and wikitext diffs.



The wikitext diff is the same diff tool that is used in the wikitext editors and in the page history.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and adding the new visual diff tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving the visual diff tool.

Recent changes
A new wikitext editing mode is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. The 2017 wikitext editor has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. Go to Special:Preferences to enable the.

A new visual diff tool is available in VisualEditor's visual mode. You can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. More features will be added to this later. In the future, this tool may be integrated into other MediaWiki components. 

The team have added multi-column support for lists of footnotes. The  block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. 

Other changes:
 * You can now use your web browser's function to switch typing direction in the new wikitext mode. This is particularly helpful for RTL language users like Urdu or Hebrew who have to write JavaScript or CSS. You can use Command+Shift+X or Control+Shift+X to trigger this.
 * The way to switch between the visual editing mode and the wikitext editing mode is now consistent. There is a drop-down menu that shows the two options. This is now the same in desktop and mobile web editing, and inside things that embed editing, such as Flow.
 * The item has been moved to the top of the  menu (from clicking on the  VisualEditor - Icon - Menu.svg icon) for quicker access.  There is also now a "Templates used on this page" feature there.
 * You can now create   tags (sometimes used as  ) for chemical formulas inside the visual editor.
 * Tables can be set as collapsed or un-collapsed.
 * The menu now includes characters for Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics and angle quotation marks (‹› and ⟨⟩) .  The team thanks the volunteer developer, Tpt.
 * A bug caused some section edit conflicts to blank the rest of the page. This has been fixed.  The team are sorry for the disruption.
 * There is a new keyboard shortcut for citations:  + +  on a PC, or  + +  on a Mac.  It is based on the keyboard shortcut for making links, which is  +  on a PC or  +  on a Mac.

Future changes

 * The VisualEditor team is working with the Community Tech team on a syntax highlighting tool. It will highlight matching pairs of   tags and other types of wikitext syntax.  You will be able to turn it on and off.  It will first become available in VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode, maybe late in 2017.
 * The kind of button used to, , and finish an edit will change in all WMF-supported wikitext editors. The new buttons will use OOjs UI.  The buttons will be larger, brighter, and easier to read.  The labels will remain the same.  You can test the new button by editing a page and adding   to the end of the URL, like this:  https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?action=edit&ooui=1  The old appearance will no longer be possible, even with local CSS changes.
 * The outdated 2006 wikitext editor will be removed later this year. It is used by approximately 0.03% of active editors.  See a list of editing tools on mediawiki.org if you are uncertain which one you use.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Libraries in the Western Cape
Template:Libraries in the Western Cape has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:08, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2017 July newsletter
The third round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 288 points being required to qualify for round 4. It was a hotly competitive round with all but four of the contestants exceeding the 106 points that was necessary to proceed to round 4 last year. Coemgenus and Freikorp tied on 288, and both have been allowed to proceed, so round 4 now has one pool of eight competitors and one of nine.

Round 3 saw the achievement of a 26-topic Featured topic by MPJ-DK as well as 5 featured lists and 13 featured articles. PanagiotisZois and SounderBruce achieved their first ever featured articles. Carbrera led the GA score with 10, Tachs achieved 17 DYKs and MBlaze Lightning 10 In the news items. There were 167 DYKs, 93 GARs and 82 GAs overall, this last figure being higher than the number of GAs in round 2, when twice as many people were taking part. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.

As we start round 4, we say goodbye to the fifteen or so competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 05:38, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

WP:COIN
Please see Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard where I put your name in the template. I'm not making any accusation about you, but you are obviously knowledgable about the article, and I'm short of time for research right now. Any help appreciated. Smallbones( smalltalk ) 15:12, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Bell Pottinger and Wikipedia
Hi. We've both been active on the Bell Pottinger article of late. I note your recent addition regarding BellP's alleged Wikipedia work - I earlier today added a note on this in the following paragraph (as it seemed, to me at least, more relevant to the rest of the Gupta/state capture section). Perhaps your addition should be merged with mine, and source added? Kind regards. --Paul W 15:57, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I see it now. Must have missed that reference to their Wikipedia article editing on the Gupta page in the South Africa section. I just saw that the general section mentioning their edits on Wikipedia generally did not seem to have any mention on it.  Yes, some sort of merger of the two edits makes good sense and would be the most concise thing to do.--Discott (talk) 21:11, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Have made the edit. Also added short sentence to the opening para so that the two sections are linked. Paul W (talk) 09:05, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 17:34, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Editathon
Hi.

A significant number of new articles created during this exercise yesterday have been necessarily tagged for deletion. This is a shame because they were obviously written in good faith. Please contact me on my talk page in the thread at User_talk:Kudpung for details of the affected pages and users. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:40, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Whisperback
09:40, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for starting Matveyev page
I've worked over the text substantially, adding Russian-language sources and linking it to the existing and now revised Solovki and Sandarmokh pages, and to the page for Yury Dmitriev which I originated in July.

Thanks to our combined efforts people now have a rounded picture of the known part of Stalin's crimes in the late 1930s: the places where these atrocities took place; an example of an NKVD executioner; and the story of one man, now persecuted by the Putin regime, for his part in Restoring the Names.

John Crowfoot (talk) 07:08, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Research, academics and Wikimania
Hi Douglas, as briefly discussed in Montreal, I am interested in helping to get academia involved with next year's Wikimania, be it through wiki-based or academic channels. I am also interested in exploring how we can leverage existing international networks involving South Africa (e.g. twin cities) in order to reach out to practitioners from around the globe whose activities might benefit from interaction with the Wikimedia communities. I've just sent you my email using the same subject line. Cheers,  Daniel Mietchen (talk) 14:24, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

WikiCup 2017 September newsletter
Round 4 of the WikiCup has ended and we move forward into the final round. In round 4, a total of 12 FAs, 3 FLs, 44 GAs, 3 FLs, 79 DYKs, 1 ITN and 42 GARs was achieved, with no FPs or FTs this time. Congratulations to Peacemaker67 on the Royal Yugoslav Navy Good Topic of 36 items, and the 12 featured articles achieved by Cas Liber (5), Vanamonde93 (3), Peacemaker67 (2), Adityavagarwal (1) and 12george1 (1). With a FA scoring 200 points, and bonus points available on top of this, FAs are likely to feature heavily in the final round. Meanwhile Yellow Evan, a typhoon specialist, was contributing 12 DYKs and 10 GAs, while Adityavagarwal and Freikorp topped the GAR list with 8 reviews each. As we enter the final round, we are down to eight contestants, and we would like to thank those of you who have been eliminated for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. The lowest score needed to reach round 5 was 305, and I think we can expect a highly competitive final round.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck, and let the best man (or woman) win! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 06:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Question: Global Gupta relationships?
I notice that there is a UK based Sanjeev Gupta who owns a number of industrial assets there. He has just purchased Arrium Steel (in liquidation) in Australia. I wonder if there is any link to the South African Gupta family, who appear to have similar interests in that region? 20.139.229.64 (talk) 01:05, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hello, to the best of my knowledge Sanjeev Gupta has no connection to the controversial Gupta family in South Africa. I could be wrong but I have never come across anything connecting them and I have no reason to think they are connected other than sharing a sir name.  Which I believe is a very common last name in India and in the Indian diaspora.--Discott (talk) 08:53, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Libraries in the Western Cape
Template:Libraries in the Western Cape has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 14:05, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

= Wikipedia Meetup Cape Town (Oct 2017) = Left comment in project talk page, sorry if repetitious. How many OSM topics are discussed and do mappers partake? YaguraStation (talk) 10:42, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Re: the ZU WP
Greetings, Douglas! In recent months I've undertaken contributing to the Zulu Wikipedia, despite not knowing the language. The few isiZulu-speaking editors with whom I've coordinated are active or accessible only sporadically, and though I still find plenty to do, I feel this shouldn't be in virtual isolation. Seeing you've posted in October 2017, you appear Most Likely Accessible Contact for WMZA - so I'd appreciate your reading what I wrote at m:Talk:Wikimedia South Africa. Do feel free to pass it along to whomever you consider likely to guide me through a few more inquiries I'll have. Am looking forward to future fruitful collaboration. -- Cheers, Deborahjay (talk) 19:32, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, unfortunately I do not know of anyone who edits isiZulu Wikipedia. Being located in Cape Town I am more familiar with isiXhosa Wikipedia.  Sorry I can't be of more help. From what I understand isiZulu Wikipedia is quite bot driven these days but I currently do not know any humans editing that Wiki.--Discott (talk) 07:48, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month 2017: Invitation to Participate


Hello! Last year, you signed up to participate in Wikipedia Asian Month (WAM) 2016 on the English Wikipedia. The event was an international success, with hundreds of editors creating thousands of articles on Asian topics across dozens of different language versions of Wikipedia.

I'd like to invite you to join us for Wikipedia Asian Month 2017, which once again lasts through the month of November. The goal is for users to create new articles on Asian-related content, each at least 3,000 bytes and 300 words in length. Editors who create at least four articles will receive a Wikipedia Asian Month postcard!

Also be sure to check out the Wikipedia Asian Art Month affiliate event - creating articles on Asian art topics can get you a Metropolitan Museum of Art postcard!

If you're interested, please sign up here for the English Wikipedia. If you are interested in also working on other language editions of Wikipedia, please visit the meta page to see other participating projects. If you have any questions, please visit our talk page.

Thank you!

- User:SuperHamster and User:Titodutta on behalf of The English Wikipedia WAM Team

This will be the last message you receive from the English Wikipedia WAM team for being a 2016 participant. If you sign up for WAM 2017, you will continue receiving periodic updates on the 2017 event.

WikiCup 2017 November newsletter: Final results
The final round of the 2017 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2017 WikiCup top three finalists:
 * First Place -
 * Second Place -
 * Third Place -

In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:
 * Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a two-way tie with themselves for an astonishing five FAs in R2 and R4).
 * Good Article – Adityavagarwal had 14 GAs promoted in R5.
 * Featured List – and  both produced 2 FLs in R2
 * Featured Pictures – improved an image to FP status in R5, the only FP this year.
 * Featured Topic – has the only FT of the Cup in R3.
 * Good Topic – Four different editors created a GT in R2, R3 and R4.
 * Did You Know – Adityavagarwal had 22 DYKs on the main page in R5.
 * In The News – had 14 ITN on the main page in R2.
 * Good Article Review – completed 31 GARs in R1.

Over the course of the 2017 WikiCup the following content was added or improved on Wikipedia: 51 Featured Articles, 292 Good Articles, 18 Featured Lists, 1 Featured Picture, 1 Featured Topics, 4 Good Topics, around 400 Did You Knows, 75 In The News, and 442 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Wikipedia.

Regarding the prize vouchers - please send  an email from the email address to which you would like your Amazon voucher sent. Please include your preference of global Amazon marketplace as well. We hope to have the electronic gift cards processed and sent within a week.

We will open up a discussion for comments on process and scoring in a few days. The 2018 WikiCup is just around the corner! Many thanks from all the judges. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. ,, and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

WikiCup 2018
So the 2017 WikiCup has come to an end. Congratulations to the winner, to the other finalists and to all those who took part. 177 contestants signed up, more than usual, but not all of them submitted entries in the first round. Were editors attracted by the cash prizes offered for the first time this year, or were these irrelevant? Do the rules and scoring need changing for the 2018 WikiCup? If you have a view on these or other matters, why not join in the WikiCup discussion about next year's contest? , and. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Atul Gupta for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Atul Gupta is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Atul Gupta until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Guy (Help!) 15:22, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red World Contest
Hi. We're into the last five days of the Women in Red World Contest. There's a new bonus prize of $200 worth of books of your choice to win for creating the most new women biographies between 0:00 on the 26th and 23:59 on 30th November. If you've been contributing to the contest, thank you for your support, we've produced over 2000 articles. If you haven't contributed yet, we would appreciate you taking the time to add entries to our articles achievements list by the end of the month. Thank you, and if participating, good luck with the finale!

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