User:Djflem/Archive 2013/2014

Re Airports in the New York Metropolitan Area
Firstly, one cannot do a cut and paste move they way you did, as it violates the terms o the GFDL and CC-SA licenses that Wikipedia works on. If you objected to my rename, you should have just moved them back over the redirects created by my move. Now the edit history is such that admin would need to fix everything.

Secondly, the title "Aviation in the Port of New York and New Jersey" is terrible. It is severely unlikely to be searched for, as the term "port of New York and New Jersey" is both exceedingly uncommon and describes the sea ports. No one is going to put it in the search box while looking for the airports, "New York Meteopolitan Area" is the most common term to describe the area, which is why the main article on the metro area is at that name. This article should match it.

Thirdly, once I found that afd refered to, the consensus was to merge at precisely that name. Where you came up with the title you gave it I have no idea, but it was not the one the afd consensus pointed to. We should stick with what is already agreed upon. oknazevad (talk) 06:32, 23 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The merge is now indicated, preserving history. The article is AVIATION, not AIRPORTS and title rightly describes that activity. Redirects will satisfy searches.Djflem (talk) 06:42, 23 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Still incorrectly done, as claiming a cut and paste move as a merge is a dodge at best. But he point remains that the use of "Port of New York and New Jersey" is a terrible choice and not what the afd called for. "Aviation in the New York metropolitan area" is better if you think "aviation", not "airports" should be the title. But it still is all sorts of screwed up. oknazevad (talk) 14:09, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Number of Spans for Putlaski Skyway
There appears to be a discrepancy on the number of spans for the Pulaski Skyway. NJDOT, who has controlling authority over the Pulaski Skyway and will be doing the rehabilitation work on all of the spans for the Pulaski Skyway indicated there are 118 spans based on the 2 links below.

1. Previous link that was cited in the Pulaski Skyway article. It was the basis for citing 118 spans.

2. NJDOT presentation about the rehabilitation work that is needed for all spans for the Pulaski Skyway. See p. 23. 

The link that you provided for indicating 108 spans was from the December 2003 submittal for nomination of the historical Route 1 Extension, which includes the current Pulaski Skyway and Route 139, with the National Register of Historic Places. The discrepancy is due to a difference on where NJDOT considers the beginning of the Pulaski Skyway in Jersey City and where authors, who prepared the document for NRHP nomination, considered the beginning. It should be noted that the authors were focused on the entire Route 1 Extension, which includes Pulaski Skyway and Route 139. So, if they were off by a couple of spans that were attributed to the Pulaski Skyway, there would be no repercussion to their submittal to the NRHP.


 * Report does mention 118. Diagram provided seems to indicate that there are more parapets, and hence spans, east of Tonnele Circle than the 108 which are numbered in it, though it does not show how many additional ones there are. One can suppose that it is ten, which would jibe with the 118. For the sake of


 * Report does mention 118. Diagram provided seems to indicate that there are more parapets, and hence spans, east of Tonnele Circle than the 108 which are numbered in it, though it does not show how many additional ones there are. One can suppose that it is ten, which would jibe with the 118. For the sake of verifiability, using the report is the best reference to use.

If NJDOT misses rehabilitating even one span, their repair work will need to be redone.

I would recommend that the number of spans be changed back to 118 with the previous NJDOT citation since they will be doing the work on all 118 spans. Let me know what you think. Wondering55 (talk) 19:16, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Report does mention 118. Diagram provided seems to indicate that there are more parapets, and hence spans, east of Tonnele Circle than the 108 which are numbered in it, though it does not show how many additional ones there are. One can suppose that it is ten, which would jibe with the 118. For the sake of verifiability, since there are discrepancies, the report is the best reference to use.Djflem (talk) 20:22, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Please direct further discussin to Talk:Pulaski Skyway

Removing Citations from Lead of Pulaski Skyway
Please explain why the citations for NJ Route 1 Extension (Item 1 below), federal register of historic places (Item 1), and NJ State register of historic places (Item 2) were removed from lead of Pulaski Skyway. I thought they were useful citations. The main text of the article no longer identifies NJ Route 1 Extension as being listed on the federal NRHP.

The second set of citations identify the sources in the referenced federal and NJ state registers. Item 1 - Pulaski Skyway is a contributing property of “Route 1 Extension”, Reference Number 05000880 Item 2 - Wondering55 (talk) 15:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Citations are not included in leads which are an introduction,and mention salient points of of article's subject that are referenced elsewhere, especially in a feature articles.Djflem (talk) 19:04, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Weehawken Port Imperial
If you're going to have a version of the infobox in the Weehawken Port Imperial article, maybe the HBLR segment should just be split off again. -User:DanTD (talk) 00:01, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It would very discombobulating to separate it or to place the RAIL infobox at the top of the page Djflem (talk) 01:03, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Not really, since every other railroad station article has the infobox at the top. I realize that rail service isn't the only service there, but that doesn't change the fact that the thing is out of place right now. -User:DanTD (talk) 12:21, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Claiming "out of place" is POV by stressing that every other railroad station article places it at top. Port imperial is an intermodal hub, and firstly a ferry terminal serviced by light rail and buses, not the other way around. Prioritising a lightly used tram station by placing above other sections (such as intro, history, etc) over a much more heavily used ferry terminal is skewed and a case of the tail wagging the dog. Djflem (talk) 15:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

WWOR-TV
Please stop re-adding the sentence on the "pending license renewal" in the introductory paragraph. We try to limit intros in TV and radio station articles to the basics: call letters, channel/frequency, location, ownership, etc. At best, the "pending license renewal" stuff is miscellaneous in relation to what is included in the intro, and there is a section in the article which explains that issue in-depth. Other Side One (talk) 15:51, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Elevation of Eastern Terminus of Pulaski Skyway
The Pulaski Skyway crosses over Tonnele Circle and then quickly descends by ramps to grade just west of John F. Kennedy Blvd. (see p. 50) shows the ramps coming down to grade in the cross section view. shows the Pulaski Skyway coming down to grade if you zoom in just west of John F. Kennedy Blvd. and go to camera street view and look west at the eastern ramps of the Pulaski Skyway as they climb towards Tonnele Circle.

The NJ DOT is including these ramps that go from grade to passing over the Tonnele Circle as part of the Pulaski Skyway rehabilitation project.

You just revised the Description to the Pulaski Skyway. Why do you think the Skyway does not descend down to grade? Can we change this revision back to the way it originally read?Wondering55 (talk) 04:43, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The roadway remains level as the western slope of Bergen Hill rises to meet it before it enters a cut through the cliffs.Djflem (talk) 06:58, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

NJ colonial governors list
Thank you for your copyedits and contributions to List of colonial governors of New Jersey. For the past few weeks, I've been expanding it and aiming to nominate it to become Featured List when I get finished. If you have some suggestions for improvement, etc., as I continue in that direction, I would appreciate it. Thanks again. --ColonelHenry (talk) 15:36, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

National Bridge Inventory Data for Pulaski Skyway
Why was the sentence below deleted? What do you mean by "cut OR" in your notes for this revision. The database for the National Bridge Inventory identifies the Essex County portion as 3,592 feet long. This statement is based on:

Wondering55 (talk) 18:48, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Could you take a look at my FAC
My friend, User:DavidinNJ, and I nominated Alcohol laws of New Jersey for Featured Article Status back in February. The nomination has been slow. As I notice you've been involved with NJ articles (including some recently that I've been working on), would it be possible for you to take a look at the article and perhaps consider offering support to its FA candidacy, located here: Featured article candidates/Alcohol laws of New Jersey/archive1? I appreciate your time and attention to this cause.--ColonelHenry (talk) 16:20, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Repositioning Paragraphs in Pulaski Skyway Description Section
You did an excellent job of editing and condensing issues regarding different versions of overall length and removing unrelated details of Route 139 outside of the Pulaski Skyway boundaries.

I would suggest improving the Featured Article quality by reordering paragraphs to reflect best editing practices with most important and primary information first. I would consider the differences in the overall length of the skyway to be a secondary issue. It would be a good idea to start the lead-in paragraph with the original primary paragraph that we had before since this is what readers would be most interested in. I would suggest the paragraphs be reordered as shown below.

Let me know what you think. Please feel free to proceed in what you think is the best interest of the article.


 * 1) The four-lane skyway carries the US 1/9 concurrency..........


 * 2) There is limited access to the freeway:...............


 * 3) Before the 1953 highway renumbering in New Jersey, the skyway was also part of Route 25. The original designation, part of the Route 1 Extension, referred to the Route 1 that largely became Route 25 in the 1927 renumbering.


 * 4) Built as part of the 13 mi long Route 1 Extension sources differ on the length and terminal points of the skyway. The National Bridge Inventory identifies the Hudson County section as 4,543.5 m and the Essex County section as 1,094.8 m. NJDOT, in historic roadway and bridge studies, describes it as 16,000 ft long with the Hudson County section as 14,900 ft long. . Other sources such as the National Register of Historic Places, The New York Times and The Star-Ledger describe it as being 3.5 mi long.


 * 5) Some maps, including one of Newark (1938), one of Elizabeth (1967), and a NJDOT survey (2010) label the US 1/9 southern approach as the Pulaski Skyway. Google Maps includes the northern approach.


 * 6) In 2011, the Texas Transportation Institute determined.....

Thanks for all of your efforts in working with me on the Pulaski Skyway. I learned a lot about Wikipedia and the Pulaski Skyway thanks to you. I think we both did a lot to greatly improve the quality, accuracy, and integrity of details and issues and filling in more complete information related to the Pulaski Skyway. Hope that we can work together again.Wondering55 (talk) 03:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Will move the re-numbering. Defining the boundaries/route of the Skyway, or what they are perceived to be needs to be dispatched first before there is any description of what its numerical designation might be.Djflem (talk) 06:19, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

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Proposed Deletion of Paragraph Related to Labor Issues after Pulaski Skyway Construction
If you ever want to delete the last paragraph below in the Pulaski Skyway Labor Issues Section, please feel free to do so. The Frank Hague article would seem to be better suited for this material since it seems to have taken place after the construction of the Pulaski Skyway.


 * Hague refused to allow Brandle and the unions to win, and began to force unions to foreclose through his control of the courts. On the public side, Hague attacked the "labor racketeers" with words, and the local newspapers gladly went along. In 1937 and 1938, Hague turned Jersey City into a police state to fight the Congress of Industrial Organizations (CIO), which was trying to inform workers of their rights under the 1935 National Labor Relations Act. Socialist Norman Thomas was prevented from speaking in Jersey City and Newark by Hague and his friends.[53] This and other similar cases turned the national spotlight on Hague, and he was attacked by the New Yorker and Life in early 1938. Finally, in 1947, Governor Alfred E. Driscoll cut off Hague's judicial power, and the mayor retired.[54]Wondering55 (talk) 01:46, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Quality of Pulaski Skyway Article
It would be nice if we were both recognized for our amazing valued-added contributions and efforts to improve the overall quality and presentation of the Pulaski Skyway article.

If you have any thoughts, please feel free to let me or the road team know. It has been a pleasure working with you.

See Talk:Pulaski SkywayWondering55 (talk) 02:28, 12 April 2013 (UTC)


 * I do not consider my work on the article a collaboration with you nor do I seek any credit for it.Djflem (talk) 04:29, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Pulaski Skyway
Sorry, no. My time is limited, and when I look at the talk page of this article, I see ruffled feathers. My normal response to ruffled feathers is to slowly back up five paces and then head for a calm place elsewhere. In general, it's a good idea to discuss proposed significant changes to a featured article on the article's talk page and to try to reach consensus before making the changes. The editors who worked hard on the original FAC are apt to have a strong interest in the article; consulting them about changes is kind and politic and more efficient than butting heads. Just my two cents. I hope it all works out. Finetooth (talk) 17:15, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Pavonia Terminal/George Archer
The station at Jersey City, to be honest, was a minor focus. I never put effort into research of the station. Nothing was all that great about it. Mitch 32 (It is very likely this guy doesn't have a girlfriend.) 15:38, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I made some edits. I would love to see the article expanded beyond stub. Mitch 32 (It is very likely this guy doesn't have a girlfriend.) 16:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Did we really need to make another stub? Also, Infobox railroad station has an Erie setting, just copy from another article and fix accordingly. Mitch 32 (It is very likely this guy doesn't have a girlfriend.) 14:32, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.
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Constable Hook Cemetery
The cemetery information stated in Middleton, Kathleen M (2000), Bayonne Passages book is incorrect. I have the source material to prove this. Please undo your deletion of my contributed information for this article or collaborate with me to include what is fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmyname (talk • contribs) 20:44, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Newkirk House
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:03, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Houses in Jersey City
Hi. Sorry to bug you, but I just wanted to ask if you were going to add citations for the material you added the article. I did not remove the material (in fact, I tweaked some writing errors in the passage) because I've known you as a good editor for some time, and figured you were planning on adding them, but just wanted to make sure. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 01:35, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Deleting your userspace subpages
I just finished deleting the userspace subpages that you tagged for deletion. FYI, the G7 criterion doesn't necessarily apply to pages in your userspace — it's only for pages that nobody else has edited, so (1) it doesn't apply when someone else has edited the page, and (2) it means that the admin has to check the page history. A simple request: in the future, would you mind tagging such pages with db-u1? This criterion applies to any page (except talk pages) in your userspace, no matter who else has edited it; I deleted them under this criterion, but it took a little longer because they'd been tagged as something else. Nyttend (talk) 17:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Thank you. The359 ( Talk ) 07:53, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks like both of you have been edit warring per the report at [//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive217#User:Prisonermonkeys_and_User:Djflem_reported_by_User:The359_.28Result:_.29 WP:AN3#User:Prisonermonkeys and User:Djflem reported by User:The359 (Result: )]. You are both experienced editors and have much to offer, but you are both extremely stubborn. Please join the AN3 discussion and promise not to revert the article any more until consensus is reached. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 16:52, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Since you've restarted edit-warring, I've re-listed the 3R-AN3 at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring --Falcadore (talk) 01:39, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've suggested in the report that admins block both you and Prisonermonkeys, unless you agree to make no further reverts of the disputed material. There may still be time for you to reply before the report is closed. EdJohnston (talk) 02:13, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Millionaire Church DYK
Some little concerns...please see DYK page. Proudbolsahye (talk) 22:02, 21 June 2013 (UTC) The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

RE: Exchange Place
I'm not sure what you mean. The PRR clearly served Exchange Place on its main line between it and Chicago. Why shouldn't the s-rail templates be there? — G FOLEY   F OUR!  — 00:35, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Port of Paulsboro
FYI, I have approved your Did You Know suggestion at Template:Did you know nominations/Port of Paulsboro. Congratulations on an excellent article! --MelanieN (talk) 20:02, 26 July 2013 (UTC) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mannington Mills


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Re:South Jersey photo requests
A number of South Jersey articles have come on line: Port of Salem, Port of Paulsboro, Salem Branch, Penns Grove Secondary, Glassboro-Camden Line. Wonder if you have any photos that might work for the above and/or if you'd mind keeping them in mind? thanks Djflem (talk) 22:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
 * In general it looks like it's a bit outside my usual themes, but close enough to my usual stomping grounds. I may be in Salem as early as Friday, but not entirely sure yet what I'll be shooting. I'll try to give it a shot, but no promises.  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 01:29, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Port of Salem
Hello! Your submission of Port of Salem at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! – Muboshgu (talk) 16:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Port of Salem
The DYK project (nominate) 12:02, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Re Port of Salem
Not a problem. Tinton5 (talk) 23:24, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Port of Paulsboro mention in Greenwich (Gloucester) article
In an edit in late July to the article for Greenwich Township, Gloucester County, New Jersey, you added a sentence that states that "The Port of Paulsboro, partially located Gibbstown, and is served by the freight rail Penns Grove Secondary and SMS Rail Lines." The sentence appears to be a fragment, and I'm not sure how to properly correct and and exactly how the port and its rail lines are connected to Greenwich and what the appropriate source should be. Can you help? My sincere appreciation for all of your work on articles covering so many topics related to New Jersey that had been inadequately covered. Alansohn (talk) 20:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Please excuse my embarrassing confusion of Gibbstown (in Gloucester Township) with Gibbsboro (in Camden County). Any help with the wording and sourcing would only help ease my embarrassment. Alansohn (talk) 21:24, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Moving pages
Hi, you just click the "move" tab at the top of the screen, then type in what you want the page to be named. Tinton5 (talk) 19:46, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Adminship
What would you think if I nominated you for the mop?--Bigpoliticsfan (talk) 14:56, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

List of bridges documented by the Historic American Engineering Record in New Jersey
Hello, and happy new year. You recently removed Category:Lists of bridges documented by the Historic American Engineering Record from List of bridges documented by the Historic American Engineering Record in New Jersey, with the explanation "parent cat removed". I don't see how this is a "parent cat" because it doesn't have any subcategories; in fact, it contains similar lists for four other states and the District of Columbia.

It seems as if you might have intended to remove Category:Lists of bridges in the United States instead, since that is the parent of the above-referenced category. I made this change while adding more entries to the list. Please let me know whether you agree. Martindelaware (talk) 20:20, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for East Wind Over Weehawken
Orlady (talk) 08:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for County Yard
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

FYI, I have approved your Did You Know suggestion at Template:Did you know nominations/Port of Paulsboro. Congratulations on an excellent article! --MelanieN (talk) 20:02, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Please read over and adjust the Fan Express section. I am not sure what you are meaning there. The second sentence there does not have a predicate. Otherwise, I cleaned up some misspellings and typos. I will look it over again tomorrow.

The article was well written and quite informative.

Carriearchdale (talk) 08:30, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Mass Transit Super Bowl merge discussion
I initiated a merge discussion on Mass Transit Super Bowl at Talk:Super Bowl XLVIII. Please weigh in. Thank you. UW Dawgs (talk) 01:37, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Date format for citations for article for Fort Lee lane closure scandal
Thanks for your recent contributions to this article. It would be appreciated when you provide citations that you follow the uniform format for this article for access/retrieval dates (i.e. January 31, 2014 rather than 2014-01-31). Eventually, the incorrect formats are corrected by others. Thanks for your cooperation. Wondering55 (talk) 05:47, 1 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for further updates to this article. One of the citations that you added includes a date format, 2014-02-01, that is inconsistent with the date format for the source dates and retrieval dates, which should have been "February 1, 2014" for the article. I realize that every Wikipedia article does not follow the same date format and it takes a little extra time to try and be consistent when providing citations in so many different Wikipedia articles, but your cooperation would be appreciated. Perhaps, you can even correct the inconsistent date format yourself for your recent additions and be mindful in the future. Thanks. Wondering55 (talk) 15:15, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mass Transit Super Bowl
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Mass Transit Super Bowl
 Northamerica1000 has given you a Gatorade shower!
 * (To give an editor a Gatorade shower, place on their talk page along with an optional customized message.)

Thanks for creating the new Mass Transit Super Bowl article, and congratulations on it appearing on Wikipedia's main page as a Did you know entry after your nomination at DYK. Cheers, Northamerica1000(talk) 09:42, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Congrats! Congrats! Congrats! Carriearchdale (talk) 09:57, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

GA reassessment
Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Epicgenius (talk) 03:06, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Political flyers?
Do you know what are the guidelines for uploading images of political flyers? See my question at Talk:Chris_Christie. Thanks! Cwobeel (talk) 18:35, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Stronger than the Storm
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DYK for Stronger than the Storm
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Governorship of Chris Christie
There is a discussion at Talk:Governorship_of_Chris_Christie about material that has been deleted from the article, which I believe was added by you. Could you weigh in on this discussion? You can see the deleted material in these diffs: , Cwobeel (talk) 19:46, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Boraie Development for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Boraie Development is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Boraie Development until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Boraie Development discussion
I'd rather do this here because I don't know how the AFD will close - if it closes as keep then this can be moved to the article's talk page. First, transparency-wise, the fact that "representative of X" contacted us regarding the article about X is par for the course at OTRS. We serve as a go-between if you will, when the person writing would rather not argue their case on Wikipedia. That doesn't mean we get to bypass or otherwise ignore policies or guidelines. You can see an example of all that here. Now, the general thrust of the communication with OTRS centered around two things: One, removal of the article. Second, they objected to the use of NBT as a source, claiming it was overly biased against the subject. So first I did some research around the bias claims and realized they were probably right. I'll get to that in a bit. Second, by the time I finished making the Sandy funds "controversy" more neutral, and seeing how little real coverage was out there about Boraie, I decided to nominate it for deletion anyway. Not because they asked us to, but because it seemed to me that there simply isn't enough significant coverage to get it past WP:CORP. But that's an issue for the AFD in any case.

Going back to the alleged bias, looking at the NBT articles you want to use as references I definitely object to the way they're contextualized:


 * In the first paragraph 'The firm is one of several companies involved in the redevelopment of downtown New Brunswick you included this. This is a long-winded attack on Boraie: "powerful developer", "The Boraie family is well-known for wheeling and dealing", etc, not to mention vague claims of corruption and so on.
 * For the 390 George Street entry in the list of developments, you used this, which is puzzling since it's an article about some bricks falling off the building, and in any case a primary source can be used just as well. The article includes prose like "the building is owned by notorious developer Omar Boraie"
 * Finally, in the paragraph about the issue with Sandy funding, you used this, which is again full of innuendo but adds nothing that the other sources don't already provide. Like this one as well.

These all seem to be written by the same person. And it's important to point out that this is the only person who seems to think Boraie is "notorious" or "powerful" because I couldn't find anything similar to that from other sources. Now, let's step back for a moment from the company's reps writing OTRS and demanding stuff. If I were to look at these references, in the context in which they are used, I'd probably want to strip them out as well. There's a clear pattern of bias against Boraie (the company and the family) there, and there's nothing in them that can't be supported by other sources in any case. And that's even assuming that the NBT would pass muster as a reliable source. The author might very well be right about all those allegations, and this might be a case of "small town journalist takes on big business and corrupt government" but as of now that's what they are, allegations. By a single, possibly non-reliable source. But that can't be played out in Wikipedia. We're not here to give a wider voice to allegations in local newspapers, we're here to document what available reliable sources say about the topics we cover. Unless you can somehow make the case that an NBT article is absolutely needed in that article, I'd rather we just keep them out completely. And I would also recommend you go back to some of your contributions and re-examine the use of NBT as a source, especially in controversial topics.

Next up, it's up to you if you want to take this to WP:RS/N and/or dispute resolution, assuming the AFD closes as keep. Let me know. § FreeRangeFrog croak 16:43, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Newark mayoral election, 2014
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:45, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Upper Bay Bridge revert
If you can explain to me why a picture clearly showing the bridge, near the center of the photo, in the up position, is less valuable than the other photo with the bridge off to one side, then I won't revert again. Famartin (talk) 07:30, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Camden Waterfront
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:38, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Joe McCallum


The article Joe McCallum has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * WP:NPOL McCallum it seems is only notable for being elected to mayor. This in itself is not sufficient to warrant a wikipedia article.

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Nomination of Joe McCallum for deletion
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WSJ cites
Hi, Djflem, Thanks for your contributions to the Bridgegate page.

However, the cites into the Wall Street Journal site are problematic, because of their paywall. Might I suggest using free sites like NJ.com (The Star-Ledger) and NorthJersey.com (The Record), when they have equivalent content?

I also suggest using the Cite > Templates > Cite News mechanism (in the Wikipedia editor) to insert a reference/cite, to easily give the article title, author, date, and even a reference name (so the cite can be shared at a different spot in the Bridgegate article). I find this formatted cite to be nore useful than a bare URL.

Thanks again. JackGavin (talk) 20:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

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Is Frenchtown Solar in Frenchtown, Kingwood or both?
I was looking at your recent edits to the articles for Frenchtown, New Jersey and Kingwood Township, New Jersey, which added details about Frenchtown Solar. The sources in the solar farm article are all from the developer and the sources for each of the three components all place the locations in Frenchtown. I was looking for something in an independent source about the project and found this item, which places the facility in Kingwood. Frenchtown is a pretty compact and densely populated municipality at a bit over 1.3 square miles, while Kingwood is 35 square miles and lightly populated. It could be actually IN Frenchtown or it could be NEAR Frenchtown and it could be in both places, but the sources are ambiguous. There should be details added and clarification provided in the Frenchtown / Kingwood articles regarding the location (or locations), with a reliable and verifiable source provided. Do you have any insights? Thanks for all of your efforts and best wishes for a productive 2015! Alansohn (talk) 15:09, 31 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for doing the research and pinning down the location. I saw the updates to the Kingwood and Baptistown articles, and I agree that it should be removed from the article for Frenchtown or at least clarified. This phenomenon is nothing new, and I'm always partially baffled by old-time biographies that say that someone was raised near Fooville, and you don't know whether that means in Fooville itself or in the surrounding Yokelsburg Township. Alansohn (talk) 18:39, 31 December 2014 (UTC)