User:Dohn joe/fwhistory

Dec 2005: Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft/Archive_1

April 2006: Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft/Archive_1

June 2006: Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft/Archive_1
 * "Unfortunately, aircraft is not the international form of the word, it's a generic term that also includes gliders, hot air balloons, helicopters, autogyros, gyrodynes, the Space Shuttle, and Harry Potter's broomstick. I strongly believe we must be exact in our terminology. This isn't about spelling. :o) OrangUtanUK 15:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)"

Sept 2006: Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft/Archive_1

Sept 2006: Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft/Archive_1

Feb 2008: Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft/Archive_1

July 2010: Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft/Archive_2

July 2011: Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft/Archive_2
 * "The concept of fixed-wing aircraft includes gliders (also known as sailplanes). The concept of airplane (and aeroplane) as defined by ICAO requires that the aircraft be power-driven, and therefore gliders and sailplanes cannot be airplanes or aeroplanes. Dolphin (t) 12:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)"
 * "My point is that fixed-wing aircraft and airplane (or aeroplane) are not synonymous. Dolphin (t) 22:31, 25 July 2011 (UTC)"

Jan 2012: Talk:Fixed-wing_aircraft
 * "Airplane means an engine-driven fixed-wing aircraft heavier than air, that is supported in flight by the dynamic reaction of the air against its wings. Aircraft means a device that is used or intended to be used for flight in the air. It is significant that neither source gives a definition for "Fixed wing aircraft", and that aeroplane is a subset of aircraft. Restricting our definition to only those aircraft with fixed wings fails to define airplane or aeroplane....Personally I don't care whether the page is airplane or aeroplane but fixed wing aircraft is a disaster, and this discussion WILL recur indefinitely until the page is renamed... NiD.29 (talk) 09:40, 22 January 2012 (UTC)"