User:Doncram/PlagMil

Notes on plagiarism issues and military service bios.

RFC and other contention from January 2008 or so

 * Talk:Bathhouse Row
 * User talk:Paleorthid
 * Wikipedia talk:Citing sources/Archive 20
 * Wikipedia talk:Citing sources/Archive 21
 * User talk:MilesAgain
 * User talk:MilesAgain

Available tags
was on Sarah Orne Jewett House

Mil svc bios

 * User:Nobunaga24 has a list of criteria and likes and dislikes for military service bios.
 * Articles for deletion/List of Korean War veterans who are recipients of the Bronze Star decision was keep. Bad faith in nomination, no consensus, argued.
 * Go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography/Military with the USDocuments issue?

NPS photos that are not in public domain
(additional note: see User:BillFlis/Images He lists 7 "NPS photos", the five NHL ones noted before plus also:
 * Image:IsaacMeasonHouse.jpg (NHL one, not okay)
 * Image:JohnsonHouseGermantown.jpg not an NHL one, maybe okay

(copy of message to BillFlis on 2/17/2008)

Hi BillFlis -- I notice you have done a lot of development of List of National Historic Landmarks in Philadelphia and on articles on individual NHLs that it covers. This is generally very great, and I admire you for doing the good work that you have done.

However, I notice that you have uploaded and used some photos from the NHL webpages which I believe are not public domain and which are not usable. A lesser point to make about those uploads is that it is better to give, in your description, a precise link to the URL of the website where you found it. I do make a point to do that for HABS photos that I upload from time to time. But for several low-resolution pictures, such as for the Becuna, I can see that it is from the corresponding NHL webpage.

You must not be aware of this, but just because a photo is on a Federal website, it does not necessarily mean the photo is usable. There was an extensive discussion on this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Archive 4. One key source on this subject is the NPS policy statement, which is fairly clear that not all photos on NPS sites are available for public domain use.

So, I believe all of the following photos are technically in copyright violation and should be removed from commons.
 * 1) Image:JohnColtraneHouse.png
 * 2) Image:MtPleasantFairmountPk.jpg
 * 3) Image:PhilaSchoolofDesign.jpg
 * 4) Image:RaceStMeetinghouse.jpg (this one says NPS files but i don't assume that necessarily means it is NPS owned)
 * 5) Image:USSBecuna.jpg

Some others of yours, such as may be HABS pictures but could use better attribution, such as specific link to the source, addition of the photographer name if available, and so on.
 * Image:Cliveden-mansion.png
 * Image:Stenton-mansion.png

I see that for there is an intended link to its HABS location but the link is invalid
 * Image:St-James-the-Less-Church.png

One uploaded from HABS is properly labelled in terms of the photographer, but does not provide URL link to the photo at HABS which would be better
 * Image:HopeHoseCoNo6&FellowshipEngineCoNo29.jpg

Some others uploaded by you: are labelled as NHL and HABS, but not labelled as to photographer and without specific link to HABS.
 * Image:PennaAcademyofFineArts.png
 * Image:Woodford-mansion.png
 * Image:Wyck.png

Another uploaded by you, does have a specific link and I see at the source that the picture is labelled in such a way that I believe it is NPS owned and is usable.
 * Image:JohnsonHouseGermantown.jpg

I do see that your photo is HABS with full attribution of author and with link to its source location.
 * Image:WalnutStTheater.jpg

Please let me know right away if you have other information that I do not, or if you are okay with me proceeding to have the first 5 of those removed? Could you improve the attribution on the other 8? I would also appreciate if you could identify any other photos of the NHL webpage type, which I missed. Sincerely, doncram (talk) 03:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

3rr preparation
Administrators' noticeboard/3RR is where to report upon 4th revert.

SEWilco is well aware of 3RR. See, for example, the last topic, at bottom, in this past version of SEWilco's talk page is all about 3RR.