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As of 205-02-15, all mentions in AN, ANI, 3RR. Note v. hard to find all. Never any in defunct etiquette one, or in new DRN.

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+ building wikipedia or for making Wikipedia a nice place. --doncram 05:10, 22 April 2014 (UTC) @Doncram: I have always understood WP:BRD to be quite fundamental 617 KB (82,276 words) - 23:36, 18 May 2014
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entirely unprofessional badgering, IMHO. --doncram 22:55, 8 December 2012 (UTC) ; I don't know much about Doncram but Sitush's tirades and personal insults 704 KB (92,982 words) - 09:02, 2 April 2014 anyone's concern like this. --doncram 20:46, 19 July 2011 (UTC) Now that I look at it some more, I agree with Doncram -- the listing is address-restricted 702 KB (94,843 words) - 14:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC) Masonic Temple (Lahore)/User:Doncram I prodded this for not showing any sort of notability. Doncram removed my prod, and did not address the 601 KB (78,340 words) - 01:35, 30 November 2011 29 6% Nick Thorne 18 4% Mike Cline 15 3% Doncram 14 3% TheCatalyst31 6 1% so somehow we're supposed 688 KB (93,104 words) - 21:09, 21 April 2013 should be made in a new section. At Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Doncram 2, Doncram has requested speedy deletion of the RFC per "terms stated", presumably 613 KB (67,728 words) - 20:42, 28 January 2014 worthy of some Wikipedia-reputation-damaging coverage in other media. --doncram 11:54, 11 May 2014 (UTC) No, blocking a contributor isn't funny - regardless 678 KB (84,160 words) - 22:58, 1 November 2014 completely or with the 1RR modification or with the mentorship modification). --doncram 14:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC) Your characterisation is incorrect. She was 688 KB (95,269 words) - 09:17, 2 April 2014 rope again, obviously. Carrite (talk) 14:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC) Oppose --doncram 00:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC) Conditional oppose. If Greg agrees to abide by 701 KB (100,812 words) - 14:23, 11 July 2013 discussions. EC is clearly not asserting to be a moderator of this forum. doncram (talk) 21:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC) Well, maybe FutPerf and Roux are right 405 KB (49,991 words) - 11:04, 12 December 2012 States to List of national monuments of the United States;[36] Reverted by Doncram.[37] Comments: restore to previous name, National Monuments is a proper 401 KB (51,468 words) - 03:43, 24 June 2009 whether such a change should be made wikipedia-wide, but just stop it now! --doncram (talk) 20:28, 30 November 2010 (UTC) I would think it unlikely that we 407 KB (50,782 words) - 14:49, 22 July 2011 control, that there is no need for a continuing incident discussion here. doncram (talk) 01:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC) This is a strange case and I am 415 KB (51,254 words) - 07:15, 27 April 2010 wrong. Besides getting involved in the wrong side of discussions with Doncram (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) 406 KB (49,296 words) - 07:14, 27 April 2010 public domain and used in wikipedia with no legal problems, i believe. doncram (talk) 18:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC) Actually on further examination I 403 KB (52,738 words) - 06:37, 21 April 2009 enough not to play near tarpits. Those two blocks were in edit wars with Doncram (talk · contribs). Note the 204K of discussion archived here. There's a 700 KB (98,670 words) - 04:44, 29 November 2014 held hostage until May 28. Please discuss, fix other problems later. --doncram 16:30, 2 April 2011 (UTC) As you have been advised, the account was blocked 675 KB (89,630 words) - 19:36, 8 October 2014 an awful place, that's what I get out of this kind of stuff going on. --doncram 19:29, 7 July 2014 (UTC) See Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions#Background info 698 KB (96,504 words) - 09:46, 10 July 2014 both would discuss the article at its Talk page. Great, all done here. --doncram 00:32, 20 November 2012 (UTC) CONTINUED BELOW: NE Ent 01:23, 20 November 725 KB (98,432 words) - 02:34, 10 January 2013 February 2014 (UTC) Oppose Per Carrite, per ChrisGualtieri, per others. --doncram 20:28, 8 February 2014 (UTC) Support something I can't tell if the User 684 KB (79,101 words) - 00:03, 5 April 2014
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last time ArbCom dealt with the question of sub-stub creation was the Doncram case last March, and at that time they did not find any controlling policy 691 KB (97,577 words) - 12:48, 5 January 2015 that parties here do not need to repeat their arguments there, however. --doncram 23:04, 22 June 2013 (UTC) There appears to be a problem with tendentious 734 KB (90,870 words) - 19:09, 28 June 2013 moved from Koontz House (Natchez, Mississippi), a NRHP stub created by Doncram (talk · contribs).I'll admit, this user has a lot of knowledge of India-related 721 KB (97,515 words) - 09:08, 2 April 2014 (cont) 15:04, 23 July 2013 (UTC) At the moment, I will only be reviewing Doncram's submissions. Easiest to find, easiest to review. For the rest of them 754 KB (105,514 words) - 15:25, 20 October 2014 was not blocked, desysopped or both? The only one I can think of is the Doncram case recently which very nearly resulted in the desysopping of SarekofVulcan 693 KB (94,011 words) - 16:36, 25 February 2014 sure this has been discussed right up at ArbCom level, perhaps in the Doncram case? - Sitush (talk) 19:14, 12 September 2014 (UTC) That's my point. You 693 KB (93,392 words) - 00:52, 22 September 2014 Register of Historic Places is still ongoing. I read Ammodramus comment and doncram's response, for instance--I think there are bigger fish to fry here than 701 KB (93,874 words) - 12:35, 7 June 2014 Feedback has been given, and acknowledged, this ANI could be closed. --doncram 20:01, 25 September 2014 (UTC) However, participating in or initiating 674 KB (91,362 words) - 16:18, 19 October 2014 profoundly uncivil too quickly too often too pervasively to too many. --doncram 20:18, 11 May 2014 (UTC) That sounds like you want to discuss it at WP:VP/P 848 KB (120,094 words) - 10:38, 1 June 2014 things are cooling down. I think nothing needs to be done here at ANI. --doncram 16:16, 3 February 2014 (UTC) Said user is expanding on his accusation 1,001 KB (133,806 words) - 20:47, 4 May 2014 this point, something similar to the article creation restriction of User:Doncram by arbitration process, which states: "He may create new content pages 692 KB (64,769 words) - 19:37, 8 October 2014 properties in Westchester County, New York. (See this edit to User talk:Doncram and this edit to Talk:National Register of Historic Places listings in 404 KB (53,965 words) - 07:17, 27 April 2010
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Murphy wants an Admin 18 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive74 Doncram/Blueboar 14 Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive217 Doniago falsely 234 B (32 words) - 00:25, 23 August 2013 1, so far, and am partway through undoing the November 30 blankings. --doncram (talk) 16:45, 1 December 2010 (UTC) Given how soundly the community rejected 301 KB (44,901 words) - 02:56, 23 February 2012
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Running issues:
 * Removal of comments at user talk page / violation of request not to post. O seems to battle on this.  User talk page guidelines were clear by then, at guideline, but that is never discussed.  Did anyone point out O was wrong or comment on her charges?  Seems like an ANI failing not to have done so.
 * S highly involved, should not be tending admin noticeboard discussions, especially ones he opened. Never noted by anyone but me?  No judgment ever?
 * Rush to open admin noticeboard discussions, without Talk first. Most of S-opened ones?
 * Naming of discussions and cases: inflammatory.  E.g. "doncram at it again", on Mauch Chunk.  Later achieved naming of arbcom case.  Arbcom absurdity about naming.  Arbcom has since changed its naming practices mostly?  Is there an explicit guideline for them, however?  Can others set guidelines for ARBcom where, how.
 * Another naming issue is repetition of exact same names. Especially N? Deliberate probably for pointy effect, but confusing.
 * Expansion of discussions: amounts to abuse of ANI which is for individual incidents:  O especially, and N, and S, making new charges when original incident turns out poorly for them.  E.g. O saying just because Mauch Chunk is settled, S surely meant other issues in "doncram at it again", to justify expansion.
 * Personalization: S claiming it is right to personalize, explicitly, in Mauch Chunk one!
 * NPA hypocrisy / abuse of civility.
 * S unwillingness to answer questions, to explain. I really had questions that I stated in RFA, with mu response.  E.g. not answering at wp:AN posting for closure.  Seems like arrogance and highly inappropriate for an admin.
 * Battleground mentality
 * N impervious to feedback, e.g. about quotes. N splitting discussions at N talk page & elsewhere. N not answering at wt:nrhp, and forum-shopping elsewhere.
 * N ownership on OH and IN areas. Metal houses.  Use of admin tools to achieve own wishes.
 * Quotes issue: O, N just wrong imho.  O charges, falsely and knowing so, of plagiarism.  N not understand copyright.  Training/workshop on copyright?
 * P: spi during 2010 or later?
 * Masons: mediation during 2010?
 * Overall pattern of following and bullying of the jab-the-stick variety, are not condemned, anywhere really? jab with stick effect noted in Mauch Chunk one, taunting noted in another noted above.  ARBcom says an RFC is needed maybe, but does it condemn the following and jabbing?  Arbcom only recognizes involved block because S explicitly acknowledged, is that right?  When has bullying ever been judged wrong by ARBCOM, ever?
 * Maybe it is nature of evidence accepted/dismissed, requirement of diffs, at ARBCOM. How document, does editor interaction analyzer allow.  note analyzer apparently has time limit, not stated, no way to reconstruct now?  can one set it for a limited time range?  could analyzer generate permanent reports.  what about deleted articles.
 * Overall pattern of mobbing at ANI etc., never really condemned? Expansions mildly questioned sometimes at best?  No condemnation of admin behavior at ANI itself, and of pattern of it.
 * Rotation of enforcers, self-appointment
 * Admins not doing job at 3rr. Need code of best practices, and for that to include coming to judgement on fault, not just on whether to impose a block or other action or not.
 * Prevention fallacy; punishment, consequences, and surely at least documentation, creation of usable evidence for arbcom wikitrials.
 * Counsel needed really, not allowed. Self-selection those interested in drama and ANI obscureness stay in.
 * Admins not doing job at ANI. Need code of best practices, including about undue delight in boomerang, and in expanding/adding new charges.  "Anything and all can be questioned" vs. keep it focused.
 * conflict between editors favoring quantity vs. quality, and Rambot in past (at JW help! )

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all mentions doncram at ut:jw

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timeline, including from all "what links here" links:
 * created with joking content 16 Oct 2008 by me. included nrhp nom doc reference.
 * WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/New articles/October 2008 (transclusion?) was announced by me at new articles box October 2008
 * and was soon noticed, discussed at wt:nrhp and found humorous i recall at wt:nrhp.
 * Articles for deletion/Log/2008 October 20
 * Articles for deletion/National Register of Historic Places featured properties and districts 10/20, 2008-10/24/2008 closed Keep; E mentioned athhd on 10/22, that nrhp nom doc available could have been developed more.
 * Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive529, an ANI i opened, discussion during April 9-14, 2009.  E mentioned athhd apr 11, 2009
 * any issue removed 11 April 2009 by Horologium (?) edits
 * Administrators' noticeboard/3RRArchive122 Feb 3, 2010 E mentioned athhd Feb 4, 2010
 * Administrators' noticeboard/Archive223 E complained about it 25 April 2011; i responded has been invoked several times, give this one a rest 27 April 2011.

So it was brought up at least 4 times at AFD or AN noticeboards (maybe not linked from more?)

Note Talk:Art Troutner Houses Historic District‎ shows no discussion of the article there, ever.

Various non-AFD deletions and DRVs
User talk:Nyttend/Archive 24 Would you please revert your deletions of the seven redirects:

William Hobart Vacation House Hobart Circle Historic District House at 203 Penn Road House at 145 South Ridge House at 129 South Ridge House at 1022 West Main Street House at 121 South Ridge It seems that you did not delete one similar redirect that i had created:

E. A. Hobart House while the National Register of Historic Places listings in Miami County, Ohio list-article had included, instead, the variation

E.A. Hobart House which I just now created as a redirect. Update: Those two were bluelinks. Nyttend, I see you now further deleted those two. I have obviously informed you that I consider these not to meet R3 or any other deletion criteria. In context, your deletion of them with R3 argument as "implausible redirects" seems unhelpful substitute for real discussion. Copied from my watchlist: (Deletion log); 17:40. . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page E.A. Hobart House ‎(R3: Recently created, implausible redirect) (Deletion log); 17:40. . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page E. A. Hobart House ‎(R3: Recently created, implausible redirect) These can now be discussed with the others, anyhow. --doncram 17:51, 28 September 2012 (UTC) I ask this as a courtesy. We can keep this issue separate, but I note you have contested against me in a way seeming peremptorially dismissive on other matters. I think you owe me the courtesy of a substantial reply (I'll watch here). And in general I think you owe me and other NRHP editors the courtesy of advance discussion on issues likely to be contested, rather than your implementing administrative actions that are likely going to be disputed, with avoidance of discussion. --doncram 05:52, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

I further notice you have deleted a number of other Ohio NRHP pages that I believe I created: (Deletion log); 05:43. . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page Talk:Geeting Covered Bridge ‎(G8: Talk page of a deleted page) (Deletion log); 05:43. . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page Talk:Christman Covered Bridge ‎(G8: Talk page of a deleted page) (Deletion log); 05:43. . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page Warnke Covered Bridge ‎(A3: Article that has no meaningful, substantive content) (Deletion log); 05:43. . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page Geeting Covered Bridge ‎(A3: Article that has no meaningful, substantive content) (Deletion log); 05:43. . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page Christman Covered Bridge ‎(A3: Article that has no meaningful, substantive content) (Deletion log); 05:40. . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page Talk:Old Union School (Chesterville, Ohio) ‎(G8: Talk page of a deleted page) (Deletion log); 05:40. . Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted page Old Union School (Chesterville, Ohio) ‎(A3: Article that has no meaningful, substantive

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 * was Craftsman Mansion started by me? I think not, because i would have included a disambiguating phrase in the title.  I argued Keep anyhow at Articles for deletion/Craftsman Mansion it was deleted MelanieN (talk) 16:41, 26 May 2013