User:Dr. Blofeld/February 2011

Ranveer Singh
So, the above article is done, and GA nominated. What do you think? I also nominated it for a DYK, hope the hook is good. Care to check? — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 15:54, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey, Dharmendra will be an interesting development. I would definitely need some time. I was thnking of the "Kutte, Kaminey" dialogue to be uploaded as a NFC ogg file. That will be an important addition to legacy. I had promoted Madonna to FA, and I really like the way that article has been arranged. I was wonderin what do you think, can we incorporate that for Dharmendra? — Legolas ( talk 2 me ) 03:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Ransom Dunn
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Skye and Ireland
Replied to your messages over on Commons - the reply to Skye is on the requests page. I should get the Skye one done reasonably soon.

As for Ireland, hands are tied without data I'm afraid (the dataset is for GB only)... I want to do that, but no joys on finding stuff yet :/--Nilfanion (talk) 00:07, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

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DNB
I did a few, but I got home way later than I expected, so I have to trundle off to bed. I'll do some more tomorrow night. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Roshven
Your edits to this page have been undone. I have trimmed down the jemima bio info to just the stuff that refers to Roshven. All the other info (i.e. vegetation, economy) should be left. You say it is unsourced - untrue. There was a reference to www.roshven.com. This is the website my grandparents created. Jemima is my great great grandmother and the info on roshven.com is information that has passed down through the generations of my family. My grandfather also gave me more information to add here combined with my knowledge of Roshven. (My grandparents lived there for over 60 years and owned roshven farm (my family has lived there for hundreds)) Therefore I have a lot of knowledge of this place. This info has been added again and must remain. Colinmotox11 (talk) 11:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

If you have concerns over this page please highlight them on the talk page. :)

Colinmotox11 (talk) 11:44, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I do not have problems with you changing parts of the article to improve the way in which it is written and making amendments to gramamr etc. However you removed nearly all of this article which is not constructive. As you will see I have trimmed to bio to only include info which is relevant to Roshven. This has a reference and has come from www.roshven.com. Therefore this is all fine to be included in this article. The other information (such as climate, economy etc) has just come from my extensive knowledge of this place. I am aware about the Wikipedia conflict of interests rule however in this case there is no bias etc. I am merely adding information which is correct and informative. You are welcome to amend parts of it to correct tone and make this more suitable but just delting ALL the information is not constructive. Colinmotox11 (talk) 12:33, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Retired
Wow, I hope that's a break rather than a complete retirement, Dr, you've contributed so much and would be very missed. Boleyn (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * See? It can't be so bad Dr. Blofeld, you've even got one of those rare female editors sticking up for you. :-) Malleus Fatuorum 22:30, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think we're up to what, four now? Maybe I'll shut down my talk page and redirect over to this one - seems like this is by far the better place to be. :-)


 * (For the record, I have undergone sensitivity training at work, so I am now officially government-certified A1 pure inoffensive. Take that for what you will.) -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa.

Me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thelmadatter (talk) 17:19, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

And me. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

By all means take a well-earned rest - I hear Achateny is rather peaceful - but it will take me months to fix this lot so I hope to see you in a small "hamlet" in the not-too-distant future. Ben  Mac  Dui  19:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Retired again? I mean, come on, we all know what you've said has some truth to it. You can't fix something without trying. / ƒETCH COMMS  /  19:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, no!....Another good editor. (olive (talk) 04:57, 3 February 2011 (UTC))

C'mon Dr. Blofeld! Are you here only for the praise? Who cares what Jimbo thinks! -- &oelig; &trade; 09:01, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, No. Come back to finish the A-Z world challenge.-- Nvvchar . 09:24, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This is horrible news! What did Jimbo say and why would he say anything negative to you (or any editor or person for that matter?) leading to the departure on one of the most prolific editors on Wikipedia? :((( Calaka (talk) 12:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC) - Ah OK I found out the reasoning. :( Calaka (talk) 12:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC) *fingers crossed for a return*. :) Calaka (talk) 12:55, 4 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Indeed, I hope you have a good break and come back soon. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 00:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

You are one of the encyclopédistes of the 21st century. Isn't that enough? If you leave and don't share your knowledge, Wikipedia will not be complete. You don't want that. emijrp (talk) 21:30, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Add my voice to the chorus of female editors who want our Dr back! :) AgneCheese/Wine 21:44, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

I echo all what has been said here... I just started editing films again and wish you were on-board. Your amigo. -- Luigibob (talk) 01:02, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Oh, fuck. You have email; so does he. The toxic-wiki strikes again. Enjoy the *break*. And we'll talk, more. Cheers, Jack Merridew 07:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Sword of Good Faith
For a courageous and selfless act that will do more to realign the gender balance on Wikipedia than endless navel gazing, I hereby award Dr. Blofeld the Sword of Good Faith. Geometry guy 21:23, 2 February 2011 (UTC) (PS. Please don't ask Jimbo for approbation, as refusal often offends. PPS. I hope you change your mind and return!)


 * Thanks for saying what you said and doing what you did. Many others, including me lack the courage. Best wishes. 86.166.4.131 (talk) 22:16, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I find that I rarely agree with Jimbo about anything, and certainly not about these currently fashionable gender-balance concerns. What was it last year? Child protection and pending changes? The man is an intellectual butterfly. So Dr. Blofeld, expecting any kind of recognition of your efforts is doubly pointless as a) it's never likely to happen and b) who cares what Jimbo thinks anyway? I don't know which comment of yours got you branded a sexist troll, but FWIW I'm probably at least as much of a sexist troll as you are, which is not at all. I've asked a few female editors I've got to know through working with them on writing articles, and to a man(!) they've all said that the focus should be on content, not whether it's written by a male or a female. Would having a 50–50 gender split improve the quality of our content? It's difficult to see how it could, unless the chauvinist idea that knitting and cooking articles are currently sadly under-represented is in play. The female editors I've worked with write in areas like medicine, transport engineering, coal mining, medieval history and literature. Nothing very obviously gender-related there. Give yourself some time to cool down and resign yourself to the realities of life here on wikipedia. And when you come back never go to Jimbo's talk page again, and don't expect anything from him. :-) Malleus Fatuorum 22:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * My views on the issue are pretty similar: stop fussing, focus on content, and encourage more contributors to join and stay by making Wikipedia a more enjoyable place to contribute. I've been following several threads on Jimbo-talk, including this one, and it is surprising how much people expect of him still. There may be humor in my award, but there are genuine issues here too.
 * Jimbo is the wrong person to ask for approval/recognition, as he doesn't have time to keep in touch with the community. He has a traditional role as a founding figure, but he is neither a leader nor an employer of the volunteers here. He doesn't edit much and he doesn't always get it right (who does?). So, we are inspired by the ideal, not the man. Those who want recognition for their work should seek it within the community.
 * My wiki-philosophy has always been: don't look in from the outside pointing at problems, join in and try to fix them. That requires a patience and determination that butterflies don't have. Geometry guy 23:27, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Listen to the good advice being offered here. Don't worry about whether Jimbo himself thanks you for your contributions. Know instead that there are lots and lots of other contributors here who have noticed and are appreciative of all the work you do here. Well beyond that are the millions of readers who come across articles you have started or otherwise worked on and - even though they never type a single letter or punctuation mark on Wikipedia, let alone know who has contributed something, are glad that the information exists here for them to find.  Lady  of  Shalott  23:49, 2 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm guessing from your user name LadyofShalott that you're one of those rare female editors, so obviously to sexist trolls like myself and Dr. Blofeld your opinion can safely be discounted. Malleus Fatuorum 00:02, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * @ Malleus. Lady  of  Shalott  04:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Dr. Blofeld. I don't like to get involved with contentious topics, but I will say something that shouldn't be too controversial. I haven't been here on Wikipedia very long, and I don't think I've ever had any contact with you while here, but I'm certain you're viewing this, and I'll bet you're going to come to your senses and return sooner or later. If not, I'll give you my opinion on this: why would you leave because of something Jimbo Wales said? I've been here long enough to know that Jimbo, despite having co-founded the site, isn't at the helm of the ship anymore. Sure, his opinions hold a lot of influence with some people, but he's not the be all end all of the Wiki. Leaving because Jimbo upset you or accused you of something is like leaving England today because the Queen said something rude to you. I mean, sure, she's a beloved public figure, but she's kind of superfluous now. Anyway, just a thought. If I'm out of line here, please feel free to remove this. Here's hoping, though, that you'll listen to the advice of the experienced editors who posted above me, and ignore the nasty remarks that are sure to follow below, on this page. Best, -RHM22 (talk) 02:49, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Dr. Blofeld and Jimbo Wales need one another, although I must admit, I think Jimbo needs Blofeld more. I am sure that their talk will produce wonders as they are basically the two people who have build Wikipedia (although in different ways). Blofeld, with his 60k+ articles is surely Mr. Wikipedia and has led by example many editors. Now there are articles on our dear Blofeld such as this . Probably we should start thinking about building an article about him to make him come back? Sources have started to show up. Notability? --Brunswick Dude (talk) 06:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm with Brunswick Dude .... ♦ Luigibob ♦  "Talk to Luigi!"  08:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Our self-respect can only be vitiated by ourselves
Hi Blofeld, I'd like to pitch in with a word that in the real sense of it, the suits dont matter. We need only say thanks to the suits once for having put Wikipedia up, thats all. The rest of it all is our work, our play, our legacy, man. Why on earth should a thanks or edit delete by someone else affect your sense of self-worth? Quoting Gandhi - They cant take away our self-respect if we dont give it to them. Please return as an article of faith with the rest of the editor community. AshLin (talk) 12:06, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree, and I hope you return sooner than later. I do appreciate your esteem for recognition; I appreciate the barnstar you awarded me. It's the only award I've gotten here, which is fine. I consign everything I do here to the public from which I have harvested it. I hope you'll consider a collegial dose of DGAF and press on with your positive contributions. JFHJr (㊟) 09:32, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Thankyou to everybody who commented here. Jimbo's comments were only part of the reason but I'm happy to say that the real issue I had is now being attended to, and things are looking promising, that's all I can say at the moment. It is us who've built this website into what it is, not Jimbo and it is us who mold it the way we want to with minimal interference from the foundation. It would be nice if the "core community" even got an annual word of thanks by email from the foundation but I guess we have a lot to be thankful for to them and Jimbo for keeping wikipedia free and advert free when they could easily be generating massive earnings for themselves.♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I am in complete agreement with you. It is essential to the Wikipedia project to have a core community focussed on the ideal of a free encyclopedia. This community needs to be valued and encouraged, and we should make everyone more aware of that. Welcome back, Geometry guy 00:00, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Organ Pipes National Park
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DYK for Kwango River
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Request you reconsider your retirement
Dr. Blofeld...I greatly admire all your contributions and am incredibly impressed with your top level achievement of article starts...a truly awesome level of contribution. I was behind the curve on the gender gap discussion and brought it to Jimbo's page to open a dialogue after someone I know linked me to the NYT piece...my intentions weren't to suggested affirmative action, suggest that we must change in some fundamental way, nor to say all men are pigs (I might be, if you ask my ex)...I was simply dismayed that the proportion of female editors was so low and was curious if we could figure out why (not that such a thing has an ABC answer). The last thing I would wish from such a discussion would be to see someone that has done as much as you have for all of us to retire...so I urge you to reconsider this. There aren't many thank yous any of us get for our sometimes tireless dedication and oftentimes passionate drive on this website. You have made it a better place and I hope you will continue to do so.--MONGO 00:52, 4 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Let's hope for the best. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 22:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Roberto González Goyri
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 * I believe that this article will be kept if it gets improved. Will you do the improving, please? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for expanding. Let me know if I can help with translations. But I'm not into art, just music, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I looked at de:Georg Friedrich Heilmann and to my surprise found him described as a painter only in the lede, thereafter his military and government career are the topic - not my cup of tea, my he forgive me, smile, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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;)
 Hello Dr. Blofeld, Jack Merridew has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Welcome back!
Good news! Good news indeed! Dr. Blofeld is back on deck again! Am so glad to read that you are planning to focus on Burma - it certainly does need (and deserve) much better coverage. I was only there for a week in 1979 (that was all foreigners were allowed to stay at the time) - but just fell in love with the country and the people. Unfortunately, I don't think I have any photos (but will have a search through old boxes of slides when I can find the time) and will try to add a comment or two when I can. But most of all, I just want to say "Hi!" and welcome you back. Cheers, John Hill (talk) 22:59, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!! YAAAAAAAY! YAAAAAAY! YAAAAAAAAY! YAAAAAAY!
 * Great to have you back. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 23:01, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

WELCOMEEEEEEEEE
HOW ARE YOU PAL??? I'm SOOOOOOOO happy to see you back again... That was f***ing frustrating to know that you were no longer interested in WP. It's high time you realise without you it's not the same. What's up man? And how's life been without Wikipedia? Shahid •  Talk 2 me  23:19, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Indonesian regencies
I've got all of the regency maps of Sumatra's provinces up on Commons now, and they're mostly deployed on en:wp. I've deployed most of them to any other project that has articles, too. And I'm seeing new articles created on projects such as and  at a pretty good clip. I've done the kota maps, too, but they need re-cating... I still need to clean-up about fifty bot-moved tags, and write en:descriptions... West Sumatra is the batch I'm in the middle of, now.
 * Commons:Category:Maps of Indonesian regencies

So, I said mostly deployed on en:wp; see Jambi and South Sumatra. They're full of redlinks. I started some of the ones in Jambi. If you want to start some new articles, those would be gooduns ;) Cheers, Jack Merridew 23:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

not sure if I should do Sulawesi or Kalimantan next... moar people in Sulawesi ;)
 * nice work. I'll be plugging-away at Riau, next; on Commons and xx:wp, too. I'll make another pass doing infoboxes and lambang, too.
 * id:Pengguna:Ewesewes/Bengkel Peta
 * Cheers, Jack Merridew 20:04, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back Doc!
Nice seeing you back. Take care. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 23:39, 18 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Bravo Luigibob (talk) 23:53, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back!
Title says it all.....Thelmadatter (talk) 00:07, 19 February 2011 (UTC)



Welcome back! Aside from the travel guides, I wasn't able to find much on Cidomo. I'm going to be expanding Arslanbob (Arstanbap); it may interest you, too. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:04, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Lina Jonikienė


The article Lina Jonikienė has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * The article fails to address the WP:ARTIST criteria and the Lithuanian Wikipedia version has no rationale or sources that appear to address the criteria either. Searches on GNews and GBook find tangential mentions (as part of lists of other authors) but nothing to demonstrate the impact needed. It is unlikely that this will be addressed in the near future.

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Proposed deletion of Linas Liandzbergis


The article Linas Liandzbergis has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * General web searches show this person exists and has exhibited, but I find no matches in GNews or GBooks. It seems unlikely that the criteria of WP:ARTIST will be addressed in the near future, particularly in the context that the article has been marked as an unsourced BLP for a year already.

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Busy?
If by "busy" you mean "just woke up", then yes. :-) I'm just getting up for the day...the luxury of Saturday mornings.  I want to get cracking on a few politicians in a little while, once I've eaten and begun my chores.  There are a few new governments in the Middle East that need stubbing... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:38, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Not offhand, but I may be looking in the wrong place. This, however, remains my favorite Google Maps anomaly.  Imagine stumbling on that for the first time late at night. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:35, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, yes - now I see him. Odd - he must have been in the car when the photographing vehicle went past.


 * I think the satellite must have passed over a plane when it was photographing that area, and for whatever reason they left it in. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Shahrukh Khan or Shah Rukh Khan?
You wrote the word "emailed" on this section on Shshsh talk page. What does that mean? Do you have an answer to my questions there? Would it make sense to try and explain the name situation on SRKs article and provide some sources? Better to educate new readers/editors rather than fighting with them. BollyJeff ||  talk  18:31, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Welcome back
It had to be with an edit clash. I am happy that you are back on Wikipedia. We missed you here.-- Nvvchar . 12:48, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Dr B. Rosiestep and myself have continued to work on the A-Z articles. I am also now working on some dams in India for which I am providing some consultancy services for reservoir sedimentation studies. I will mail you later in the evening. Arslanbob is an interesting article; it is the place I visited in 1988.-- Nvvchar . 12:58, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * As a fresh start, may I request you nominate this article Bhadra Dam with an img of the dam?-- Nvvchar . 13:46, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Missed mentioning Bhadra Dam. -- Nvvchar . 14:11, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You may like to join us on this User:Nvvchar/Nahuel Huapi National Park.-- Nvvchar . 14:44, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK
Hello Dr. Blofeld. Thanks for reviewing my DYK nom. I replied to your notes, could you please check. (in short, yes they were both 5x expanded). Cheers! Yazan (talk) 15:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Same to you! cheers. Yazan (talk) 16:01, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

FYI

 * For gods sake blofeld - it is satusuro - I couldnt give a rats what you two (merridew) get up to - I happen to not be currently editing in the Indonesian project at the moment - and I dont happen to have any interest in what you are both up to anyways - its for other editors to judge whether you are improving the project or not - please stop now alledging things I am not up to - I am not the Indonesian project nor are you and merridew - move on - if youre back - do your stuff and leave my name alone - thank you (oh and if you do list every village in Indonesia I am sure someone else will come along fix you up one way or other - it is not my concern anymore) SatuSuro 02:01, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

But you must admit you do generally seem to show a distaste for any new Indonesian articles or anything less than B class quality articles..... - crap, misrepresentation - there are no maintenance minded eds left working in the Indonesian project to do the boring bits - I am simply not doing it anymore - simple as that - just daily watching of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AlexNewArtBot/IndonesiaSearchResult can bring on hernias when you see the crap coming through - the i refuse to communicate editors of unknown quantity who add tons of pointless soccer stubs and non english english eds who add stubs with no follow up is far more toxic than you or merridew are capable of (at least you guys speak) - I just do not wish to get involved in dealing with large numbers of new regency or other conflagarations with no project tag or no references and dubious category trees (there is a parallel category issue from thelast big addition a year or so ago that no one has even considered) - In the end you and merridew are not really the problem - I just have given up on the crap that goes into the project - real life has far more challenging issues - cheers SatuSuro 00:20, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry - I have said at merridews page and here - I am not engaging in anything currently about Indonesian project issues - try someone else - or even more sensibly the project page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indonesia - much better to try there than try to engage me on the issue - SatuSuro 00:32, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Completeness
Indeed. Look at the work I was doing on Tunisian politicians over the weekend - it's pitiful how little coverage we have of them. Or of Jordan, for that matter, speaking of countries who have been in the news lately. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:47, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed - it seems, from my admittedly narrow viewpoint, that coverage of Tunisia lags behind most of the other North African states. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It'll have to be tomorrow - I got in really late tonight, and won't have time for much. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * OK - I did a bunch. More later, once work settles down. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Right. Sorry, busy day. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 16:55, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * A good chunk of them, actually. I did most of the first table-full, and sporadic ones among the second.  About fifty in all. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure. That's what I was doing, actually...until I got bored. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:57, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll look - I think there are some Egyptian novels around here... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 22:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Stone Canyon Reservoir
I've expanded it. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:59, 23 February 2011 (UTC) This reservoir is propsoed to be decommissioned and an underground reservoir has been propsoed as replacement. I ahve added text to Kottarakkara. You may like to prune the history section. -- Nvvchar . 14:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I am now in Bangalore on a personal visit and my editing inputs would be sporadic for the next 10 days. Our family temple here T.Narsipur has been completely renovated by my brother and its consecration (Kumbhabhishekham) is an elaborate function, which will be held from 1st March to 9th March.

I have added text to the Stone Canyon Reservoir for whatever it is worth since one reservoir has been decommissioned and the other is also in the process of going the same way.-- Nvvchar . 12:45, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Reply
Sorry man I did not notice you message, but I do not really agree. The average Hindi cinema article is far better. Shahid •  Talk 2 me  08:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * And you think I would not? But how would you make Mother India into a GA when there's no way to found any essential information about it? There aren't even enough reviews for the film, let alone info about production and filming. That's sad, but that's what we have. Just today I created a page on Kunwara - a Hindi film, but all I found is two reviews from reliable sources on the internet - nothing more. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  12:18, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'd love to but I'm now having trouble with a guy on the Aishwarya Rai article. Oohh. He added a little credible source stating she is the youngest recepient of the award. I started a talk page discussion on which I mentioned Smita Patil as an example, who was much younger than Rai when she received her award. So what did he do? He just changed the statement to "second youngest"... Ooohh. Using the same source which does not support it at all.
 * He Adds Raavanan to the lead, mentioning it as a critical and commercial success, while this is not supported in the article. He added two source, one of which is just a fansite to "back up" the claim. He does not even use the talk page, and I'm pretty sure I know this guy from the past.
 * Dealing with fans is quite annoying. Just see hoe he falsely added Aishwarya's name to the list of 2010 MTV nominees. This is ridiculous. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Great book. But you know which one is my absolute favourite. The one that fascinates and excites me. Complete the sentence: Encyclopedia of _____ ______!! Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  13:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Fantastic work as always. Blof are you aware of this, the recent AFD, and the subsequent blanking for so-called copyright issues? On the AFD, many people supported BOI and the article was finally kept, but they were not done and claimed that due to the fact that BOI's are educated guesses, it must be checked. What a joke. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  14:26, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Mughal-E-Azam - another classic. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  14:58, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Spectacular work. Blof the imafe of Nargis is not when she shoots her son, BTW, it is the one when she is working in the fields and dragging some cart. Many books, not even about Mother India in particular, feature this image on their cover, that's why I believe it should be in the infobox.

I thought of writing a summary but somehow I find it hard to include everything and everything I write is crap. My last draft was something like:

Mother India is centred by the character of village woman Radha, and tells the story of her struggle to survive against the evil money-lender (and later with her own son...). The film portrays Radha through all her trials and tribulations, showing how she single-handedly raises her sons and works the fields.....

I don't know if it has to be short or not. Shahid •  Talk 2 me  11:48, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


 * The problem is when you try to write a summary for a film that is so historically important, it's hard to find the right words that would do complete justice to it. And this summary still looks missing to me. I think it can be expanded. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  12:20, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I too like her a lot. She was really good as the young Victoria and TDWP. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  17:00, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hehe man I think after Shania got married you started looking for an alternative. Shahid  •  Talk 2 me  17:22, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

M.I. and Sholay
Okay, I will see what I can do. Sholay was being reviewed, but the guy who was doing it met with an accident, and said he will be out of WP for several months. I don't know what will happen with it now. BollyJeff ||  talk  16:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think Sholay needs very much; I have been working on it for some time, and the review seemed to be almost complete. However, you are certainly more experienced then me, and I thought that Shriya Saran was in pretty good shape. I am just waiting for some reliable sources to talk about her before re-submitting that one. I think it depends a lot on which reviewer you get too. I have seen GAs using sources that were rejected on that one. However, I have tried to stick with good sources on Sholay. BollyJeff  ||  talk  17:03, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I made some changes using your provided link; have a look. How do you determine when to use the standard book citations or Google Books citations? And whatever all that other stuff you said was, sure I would like a tutorial :-)  BollyJeff  ||  talk  18:12, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Both IMDB and Bollywood Hungama show a release date of 14 February 1957 for Mother India. You sure about 25 October 1957? Add a source if so. Also, I fixed the sources on Sholay. BollyJeff  ||  talk  20:46, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * [This source] that you used for MI could prove useful for Sholay as well, bit these numbers are far different than other sources. What is going on here? BollyJeff  ||  talk  04:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you explain the discrepancy between the gross figure in your book source above, and the figures quoted elsewhere on WP? BollyJeff  ||  talk  03:44, 25 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I finished the copy edit on Mother India today. You may want to revisit the Themes section. It is long and there is a lot of stuff in there about religion and sexuality that you may want to trim upon re-reading it; then again maybe not. You did a lot of work in like 1 or 2 days; very impressive. When I look at a lean article, I can't even think of what to write about usually. How do you do it? Oh, and I see that someone put Sholay up for a second opinion, so maybe there will be some more action on that soon.  BollyJeff  ||  talk  23:56, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Hotels by country
Dawynn (talk) 18:41, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Re:File:Nargis and sons.jpg
Hey, I see this is a newly uploaded file- could you please stop using that "standard" rationale? Generic legalese formed into a wall of text is not a useful non-free use rationale- the rationale needs to specifically explain what that image adds to that article. With film screenshots, there's nothing close to an "automatic entitlement" to use, and so you can't just throw anything down and expect it to be OK. As for this particular image, I'm really not seeing what it's adding; it is not immediately obvious why it's so important we see what the actors look like in role. While I'm on the subject, why two posters are needed is not clear (if the second is particularly iconic, lead with that one instead) and it's rare that the cover of a soundtrack is going to be justified in an article about a film- in this one, doubly so, as it's mostly redundant to the poster anyway. J Milburn (talk) 19:27, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I don't mean to patronise you, but you make a lot of common mistakes about our NFCC in your response. I will respond to each of your points in turn:
 * "the main poster is the original english version which we should always try to use" It's a good choice for the one to use if none of them are of particularly significance. If one is particularly significant, use that. That's not particularly controversial.
 * "I did not add the poster after removing it from the infobox. Shahid added it on grounds that the image of Nargis shooting her own son it one of Hindi cinema's iconic moments and should be represented" I've no idea what the first part means, but as for the second part: The fact something is significant does not mean that a non-free image is automatically justified. If it's significant, talk about it. If a picture is needed, use a picture. "It needs a picture" simply does not follow from "it's significant".
 * "I did not add a new rationale I simply copied it form the old image' I thought this image was much better." Copying rationales is hardly a good idea. If you upload an image, you are responsible for making sure the rationale is sound.
 * "album covers are generally accepted in GA and FA articles on Hindi films because the soundtracks to the films are often as important or even more important to the film itself. See Dhoom 2 for example" There are no special rules for Hindi films- please take another look at the non-free content guidelines. If the cover of the soundtrack is important, add some sourced commentary about it. If the soundtrack itself is really that significant, give it its own article- I would have no objection to an album cover being used there.
 * "one image should be acceptable at least to illustrate an important scene in the film or concept in relation to the text which I believe the images in the themes section meet" Basically, that's not how it works. Again, the fact a scene is "important" does not suddenly mean a non-free image is justified, and the "there's only one" argument holds no water- one image can still be too many. Take the screenshot as an example- this shows a woman and two children sitting on the floor. What, precisely, is this showing that so urgently needs to be shown?
 * "if you are not happy with the rationale you can always alter it yourself and show me which rationale I should actually be using" Not how it works. It's your responsibility to provide an adequate rationale, and I can't just point you to one that works- the point is that one needs to be written specifically for that image and that article- you can't just copy some central one. As I said, I can't write that rationale myself, as I am really not seeing what the image is adding.
 * I hope this clarifies a few points. I'm not saying that the article needs to be stripped of non-free images (though perhaps removing most would be the best solution) I'm just saying it needs some attention... J Milburn (talk) 20:18, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Why not just go with the movie poster that was there already and shows the iconic scene? Which BTW, is not her shooting anyone, but plowing the fields. BollyJeff  ||  talk  20:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Doc, I can understand your frustration (I've been on the wrong end of our NFCC myself) and I appreciate the fact you're making an effort to minimise the use. However, I completely agree with Jeff that we could kill two birds with one stone by using the movie poster with the iconic scene on- we are agreed that a poster is helpful, and you feel strongly that that a visualisation of that scene is helpful, so why not, as per NFCC#3a ("Multiple items of non-free content are not used if one item can convey equivalent significant information") use the poster with the iconic scene? (As for your question about templates, I would strongly recommend Template:Non-free use rationale, but, to reiterate, I simply can't point you towards a rationale that you can base yours upon- the "purpose" parametre, the important one, is going to need to be absolutely specific to that image and that article. A fairly good example of a rationale would perhaps be File:Flow game screenshot.jpg (I just expanded it- I was looking at it earlier as it is at FAC at the moment) but, as I say, screenshots are not something suited to more "template" rationales (in fact, a template was recently deleted for just this reason). J Milburn (talk) 23:05, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I think your problem is essentially with our copyright policies/NFCC, not with any particular user. There's simply a different way of looking at things- while we're playing by "different rules", as it were, it's going to be difficult to come to an agreement. J Milburn (talk) 11:14, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No, agreed, and I have written film articles myself- Dustbin Baby (film) is well illustrated because I was lucky enough to get free images. However, the "bland" argument has been rejected again and again; we do not use non-free content to decorate. Sometimes, yes, a single screenshot (or more) is going to be useful, but it's simply not true that this is always the case. J Milburn (talk) 11:26, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

File:Eastwood Good Bad and the Ugly.png
Presuming there is no conceivable free media, it would be acceptable in Man with No Name under the NFCC, but it's difficult to see how it is justified in Eastwood's own article. J Milburn (talk) 11:28, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Like I say, I've done it myself, though, admittedly, it wasn't the biggest company. Remember though that there is a big difference between "Wikipedia can use the picture" and "we release the picture under a free license". The former has repeatedly been rejected as being not free enough. From my own experience, I've seen companies are often willing to help, but often falter at the point of a free release, in part because it means wrangling with copyright- working out who they need to contact, contacting them, getting them to say exactly what they need to, etc etc. J Milburn (talk) 11:47, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Clint Eastwood Fistful of Dollars.jpg
A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Clint Eastwood Fistful of Dollars.jpg, has been listed at Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

Hi Blofeld, I think you may have misunderstood the Italian Wikipedia's claim (I believe they are claiming only for their country's side of things&mdash;like how certain works are only PD in US and not elsewhere, and vice versa); Fistful of Dollars is a US work, not Italian (it registered its copyright&mdash;which is equivalent to publication&mdash;in US before debuting in Italy). Please see further details at the PUF entry. Jappalang (talk) 01:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)


 * As explained, a work enjoys US copyright regardless of whoever created it (the process only demands the registration). I believe J. Milburn overlooked this detail when he was going through that GA (I pinged him to discuss his thoughts).  Unfortunately, this also means File:Eastwood Good Bad and the Ugly.png is of the same fate (although the copyright claimant is different because Leone changed producers throughout that "trilogy").  That file is now at Possibly unfree files/2011 February 24.  Jappalang (talk) 11:19, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry to bother you again, but File:Clint Eastwood man with no name.jpg is a copyright violation without the permission of the copyright holder of the film it was derived from (see original screenshot here). Jappalang (talk) 11:40, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

As with the above please see more on your uploads. Soundvisions1 (talk) 14:07, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks on Arablit
Hi, really appreciate your help with the Zayd Mutee' Dammaj novels. I found this treasure trove of info on contemporary Arab literature in the Banipal website.. http://www.banipal.co.uk/contributors/ .. there's over 600 author mini-profiles in this index from Morocco all the way to Syria/Jordan and the Gulf. It's the source of the Yemeni writers template as well. I'm doing a few of these every day, but naturally all help would be HUGELY appreciated. And yes, WP is nowhere NEAR complete! Best, Peripatetic (talk) 07:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

re: Carmine Gallone
Any good sources for his films?  Lugnuts  (talk) 13:32, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Cheers Doc. Not as nice as the Czech film database site though!  Lugnuts  (talk) 14:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

citation
Im trying to use the "easier" form of citation (please see the expansion I did over at Great Pyramid of Cholula) as I finish expanding Xochimilco I have a question. Are all sources listed at the bottom with notations above or just books and stuff with authors? If its all, Im going to have lots of "fun" with the in line citations. I have a lot of web pages with no author and several of these with the same title and several sources (newspaper articles) written by the same guys.Thelmadatter (talk) 20:31, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I sandboxed what I have done so far here User:Thelmadatter/sandbox Assuming I should list all sources the same way. I have not worked on the coding for in line citations yet.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:27, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * But what about web pages and other sources? I did what I think I should do with the first webpage I listed in the bibliography.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:34, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah... OK I see now.Thelmadatter (talk) 21:46, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Expansion all done. Could use some tidying up. Ill try to do some in the morning. Beer awaits right now!Thelmadatter (talk) 03:22, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Una Jaula no tiene secretos for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Una Jaula no tiene secretos is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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DYK for Bhadra Dam
03:51, 25 February 2011 (UTC) 06:02, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Generating cite book from ISBN or Google Books URL
I saw your suggestion on my talk page. We did discuss implementing that as part of ProveIt, so someone could enter an ISBN (or similar) and have the rest of the Add Reference tab auto-loaded. Technically, this would probably require a JSONP API. Feel free to file a bug with information about how you think this should work. Superm401 - Talk 06:08, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sunset Marquis Hotel
Materialscientist (talk) 12:02, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

pass-out teh baked goodies


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Barnstar
Dear Dr. Blofeld:

In my modest capacity as a new article reviewer and unofficial member of WikiProject Argentina, I'd like to bestow a Barnstar of National Merit upon you for your many contributions to a variety of Argentine-related subjects.

The breadth of subjects covered by your tens of thousands of new articles is astonishing, and truly serves as an inspiration to lazier Wikipedians such as myself. Editors from many other WikiProjects owe you barnstars, as well. On behalf of Wikipedia's Argentine and Argentine-American readers and editors, thank you.

All the best, Sherlock4000 (talk) 21:46, 26 February 2011 (UTC)



AWB requests
These places have no infobox:


 * in Caithness:
 * Berriedale, Highland
 * Scrabster
 * Reaster
 * Haster
 * Ham, Caithness
 * Burnside, Highland
 * Achreamie


 * in Lochaber:
 * Glenborrodale
 * Tarbet, Lochaber
 * Grigadale
 * Glenachulish
 * Blarmacfoldach
 * Achriabhach
 * Achnaha
 * Tomdoun
 * Strontian
 * Glenuig


 * in Nairn;
 * Geddes, Highland
 * Rich Farmbrough, 11:40, 26 February 2011 (UTC).

More Mangroves?
Something tells me Bonny Estuary and Wouri estuary would be quite similar. There are some resemblances between Oko Jumbo and King Bell as well. I may take a look at it. Thanks. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:23, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Margaret Creek
Margaret Creek is start class now. As the AfD lacks traction, do you want to nom it? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:06, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Chinese in Mexico
Hey. Someone made some, lets say, interesting edits to the Chinese immigration to Mexico articles, including moving it to Chinese Mexicans. The guy seemed to be under the impression that there are 70,000+ chinese in Mexico by adding the immigrant numbers since the 19th century. I dont think "Chinese Mexicans" is a really more accurate title. But I dont know how to "undo" a move. Can you help me on this one? BTW, film is not my thing. I very rarely watch movies anymore.Thelmadatter (talk) 02:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
 * thanks for your help. Thelmadatter (talk) 15:50, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:FernandoSiro.jpg
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DYK for Avielochan
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)