User:Dreftymac/Scratchpad005

WOT Clear NPOV violation
This article was tagged for re-write and neutrality problems, those tags were removed, but it appears that the underlying substantial NPOV issues have not been addressed, rendering this article inconsistent with WP:NPOV. Please resolve the following before removing the NPOV flag.

Foremost, please note this is not intended as an invitation to political discussion either for or against a particular viewpoint on the subject matter of this article. I love my country and honor those who do the difficult and solemn work of defending her against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. This issue is not about my personal views, however, but about Wikipedia policy.

At issue: What is this article about?

1. ) The catch-phrase initiated and made famous by a United States president  2. ) The literal fight against the concept/tactic of Terror and the international deployment of military assets to combat and eradicate this concept/tactic 3. ) Both of the above  http://uatportal.cryptpay2.com/client/v2/paymentform/transaction/List?formId=7380e66e-91a7-47ec-86ff-4f39d3d793a3&startDate=2014-06-01&endDate=2014-07-18

If this article is about 1) only, then clearly the content of the article in its present state is misleading, and incapable of neutrality, since it documents an international military campaign as combating the concept/tactic of terrorism, with no neutral basis for impartially documenting how the military operations factually coincide with the meaning of the catch-phrase. It would be like taking the article Axis of evil and then trying to document how the nations described by that catch-phrase are actually, in fact, evil.

If this article is about 2) only, then clearly the content of the article is irrevocably inconsistent with WP:NPOV, unless and until a reasonable, neutral, and logically-consistent argument can be made for why a politically contentious and U.S.-U.K. centric viewpoint of an international issue merits any more prominence than other viewpoints on this international issue. If it is truly possible to have a neutral Wikipedia article on the use of military force to eradicate the concept/tactic of terrorism, then it should be possible for a disinterested third-party to read the article and honestly say that it does not give favorable bias toward any organization or nation affected by the concept/tactic of terrorism. I do not see how such an article could possibly be neutral, consistent with Wikipedia policy.

If this article is about 3) (both) then clearly the content of the article is beyond repair, because there is no supporting neutral definition of either terrorism or the war on terrorism that can allow a disinterested editor to determine which military operations by which world organizations or groups merit inclusion in this article. More organizations and nations are affected by terror than just the U.K. and U.S. If a neutral definition of this concept is even possible at all, then it would necessarily have to include definitions that may not coincide with the opinions of any given president or leader of any given nation.

For these reasons and others, this article should at least be flagged as an NPOV violation, and remain so until someone can actually address these issues. dr.ef.tymac (talk) 19:07, 1 February 2011 (UTC)