User:Dusti/Archive 4

'Vandalism'
Fyad has nothing to do with anime, it's a subforum of somethingawful.com (albeit hidden!) and was on the somethingawful.com page, contrary to the anime page - the original redirect was the vandalism :/ 80.0.38.204 (talk) 00:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

To Keeper
This is Dusti, I have returned. A brief explination of what happened. I was editing on Wikipedia at my school ISSCH. The IT coordinator found out what was happening and demanded that I cease and remove all information about myself until I left ISSCH. I have not given my password to anyone and my account has not been comprimised. Please unblock me and restore all pages. If you have any more questions, please ask.  D u s t i complain/compliment 17:10, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * WOOOOTTTT!!! I figured it out, and was waiting for you to graduate - did you graduate???  Glad to see you back!  I'll work on restoring your subpages - do you want all of them?   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and you're unblocked now - Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:15, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Graduated Valedictorian of my class.  D u s t i complain/compliment 17:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * So, only 10 students, eh? Just kidding, congrats!   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:20, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep, lol.  D u s t i complain/compliment 17:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, I think I've found all your subs. Check here to be sure I didn't miss anything. Keeper  |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

If you can, go ahead and delete this page. Its long since lived its worth.  D u s t i complain/compliment 17:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:38, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back
congrats on graduation and being valedictorian, glad to see you're no longer a red link, I missed you TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 17:37, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Chiming in on the congrats here. And double congrats on the valedictorian. Way to go.-- Fabrictramp |  talk to me  17:56, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back Dusti, I am glad you are alright. Well done on graduating as a valedictorian (though I did not know what that was until I just looked it up, the helpfulness of Wikipedia!), I missed you and your return has lightened up my day, that's for sure. Camaron | Chris (talk) 18:28, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Its good to be back, thanks. I didn't know I was so liked lol :P  D u s t i complain/compliment 18:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Welcome back from me Dusti, my heart sank when you left, i was so happy when you left me a message on my talkpage. --FGWQPR (talk) 19:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to have you onboard as FGWQPR's co-adopter, as long as it's ok with him. xenocidic (talk) 12:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * It's always sad to see someone leave! Glad you're back though = ). Regards, --Cameron (T|C) 13:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello! You don't know me, but any pal of these good people is a friend of mine. Please allow me to let the sunshine in on your return:



Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Welcome back! Ecoleetage (talk) 20:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Progress
We haven't really done much at all, as FGWQPR has been fairly inactive since I came on board. See User:FGWQPR/adoption. xenocidic ( talk ¿ listen ) 21:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Alright, you asked for it...
I've restructured the AfD coaching page here, and moved most of the old dialog to the talkpage. You're very late with your April 29th assignment, I had no choice but to push the dates out for months 2 and 3...;) Those 4 AfDs should be closed by now, go see how they turned out!   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: The comment you left on my talk page
I suggest that the person I sent the message to is the one you should be condemning not me. Does he have the right to make judgements without justification? His whole style of writing is provocative, and not at all constructive. Block me if you wish to do so, but I am only responding to what I have read. I dislike ego mania, and he clearly has a chip on his shoulder.
 * You should still follow policy when making comments.  D u s t i complain/compliment 03:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Help needed
If you have the time, I would appeciate you looking at this. Abtract (talk) 07:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Not sure if you're watching
but I answered you :) Happy Monday! TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 13:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Buddhism
Dusti - you undid my revert on the Buddhism rather haphazardly. if you read the talk pages, you'll notice that I have been trying to communicate with other users and construct a decent page, but the recent edits have been being bulldozed by an uncooperative editor who is (apparently) insisting on representing a particular point of view.

I appreciate the fact that you want to protect the page, but please investigate the issue - at the moment you are protecting the disruptive element without regard to page content or reasoning. --Ludwigs2 (talk) 19:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

on inspection, perhaps that was an automated action because I removed a 'bot structure,' whatever that is. :-) I'l investigate and try again.  :-)  --Ludwigs2 (talk) 19:31, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * My apologizes if you took my reverts personally, however, in numerous edits, you removed bot structures and information. If you would, please specify what your doing in the edit summary, rather than request someone to look at the talk page, as sometimes editors look past that and at your edits only. In the future, remove nothing that says bot and is in carats (sp?) i.e. < >  D u s t i complain/compliment 19:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * yes, I had no intention of removing any bot edits - my (admittedly amateur) mistake. I'll correct the issue and reattempt the edit.
 * apologies for any inconvenience. --Ludwigs2 (talk) 19:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Forgive me for jumping in here, but I saw the changes to Buddhism and the odd edit summary about "bot structures". Did you mean the bot-generated reference titles? Those can be edited or removed just like everything else. In fact, they probably should be edited, since the bot doesn't always make very good titles. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:RFPP.
The 3RR warning should be enough. · AndonicO  Engage. 03:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If they continue, do you want me to request blocking or protection of the article? I would lean more towards the protection of the article, as that's the most reasonable way to go. It would force them to talk (well, maybe).  D u s t i complain/compliment 03:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Full protection (even though they're IPs), unless they've violated 3RR. I doubt they'll continue, though. · AndonicO  Engage. 03:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

RFPP
Not only did I deny the request, but a second admin also denied the request. The message being it doesn't matter what you say, it's not going to convince us. Point Two: We don't need people to ditto requests. We will still look at the page and determine independently whether or not to protect or not. If 20 people want a page protected but there's no activity to justify it, we won't. And no, 21 would make absolutely no difference. -Royalguard11 (T·R!) 03:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I just wanted to make a point that there is no point is adding "support" to a request because it makes no difference to us. And I only replied because you left a message. I do try to answer them if I can. -Royalguard11 (T·R!) 03:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply
I've replied on my talk page. Cheers, Razorflame 14:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I've replied on my talk page. Razorfl</b><b style="color:#6c6">am</b><b style="color:#6c3">e</b> 20:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Coaching
I'm not listed in the program, but I have done coaching in the past. However, I currently have three coachess, and I'm not planning on taking anymore until those three have completed theirs. Acalamari 15:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

yes
for a short while. what's up? --barneca (talk) 16:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I am looking for someone to be either a co-admin coach with Rlevse or my new admin coach, as his schedule and mine just aren't working out. What do ya think?  D u s t i complain/compliment 16:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I should probably decline being an "official" admin or co-admin coach, as I'm hoping to be on-wiki only occasionally for a while, in order to deal with some real life stuff. I'm not quite sure how I feel about the coaching program anyway.  But, I'd certainly be more than happy to be a sounding board if you ever have questions or are looking for general advice on something specific.  Feel free to drop by my talk page or email anytime if you ever want input along those lines. --barneca (talk) 16:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks!  D u s t i complain/compliment 17:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

(e/c)Hey Dusti. I'll try not to make overly-sweeping comments here regarding coaching, still several people disagree on it. However, you should be aware that "offical" coaching programs with specifically labeled coaches seems to be on the decline. There is a lot of recent evidence of these actually hurting RfAs. You might have your heart set on having an official coach, but you should really consider avoiding a formal program. The reason I say this is because I know of your relationship with Keeper. Going to Keeper from time-to-time for advice and discussion might really be the best way for you to build up your wikipedia skills and potential admin skills. I think continuing in this way is much more natural and would be better for you than having some official coach. I can discuss this more with you if you'd like. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Admin Coaching
Hi there, while I'd be happy to help you out, with you being in the US whilst I am in the UK, there will probably arise the issues of our editing patterns not overlapping. <b style="color:black;">Black Kite</b> 18:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * How many admins have you asked, Dusti? An honest question.... Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  18:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you miss my message on your page earlier Keep? I should've put it on the bottom. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 18:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I saw it Gwynand.  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  18:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * To be honest Keep, 5 or 6 I believe.  D u s t i complain/compliment 19:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * And they've all said "Glad to help, but not formally" or something along those lines. The ADCO program is having a major image problem right now, Gwynand has given you very sound advice in previous posts.  I would recommend that you stop asking, it will be used against you (right or wrong) later on.   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  19:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. I have to log off for right now (thunderstorms) and I will log back in my time 9-10PM (currently its 3:20).  D u s t i complain/compliment 19:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Respect
Respect is earned, never given. --Blackzeppelin (talk) 05:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good faith is given, and rarely if ever earned. 2 way street.   Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * <insert deep thought quote here> Thanks Keeper!  D u s t i complain/compliment 17:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Ashes to ashes, Dusti to Dusti... Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * "The crows are calling my name," thought Caw Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  17:54, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Keeper for supporting me. Yes, good faith is a 2 way street. Dustihowe did not assume good faith with my edits, so I don't have to assume good faith with his edits or his person either. He hasn't earned it. --Blackzeppelin (talk) 12:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Are we seriously still talking about this? Blackzeppelin, mistakes happen, and I'm sure that you have made them before. I have let this go, and I thought we have moved on. Please, do not keep this going, and by continuing to hold a grudge, your restricting us from getting over this. I apologize for not assuming good faith on your part, please accept my apology and lets move on and do some editing.  D u s t i complain/compliment 16:51, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:RFPP.
Nope, he's not edited since the warning: check the time between that and the edit. I probably just forgot to rollback his latest edit. · AndonicO  Engage. 17:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you hide your protection in the history of the page? I thought I was able to see that? And no, I didn't check the time between your warning and his edit, my bad.  D u s t i complain/compliment 17:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I never protected; since it was only one user, it wasn't necessary, and I just gave him a warning (most vandals stop after being warned). · AndonicO  Engage. 23:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

rfa thanks
hey dusti, i just wanted to drop in and thank you for your participation at my RFA. you may be interested in checking out my in-depth RFA analysis (comments welcome). i've also left some templated thank spam below. happy editing, xenocidic (talk) 22:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC) <div class="NavHead" style="background:87 CE EB;">templated rfa thank-spam <div class="NavContent" style="text-align:left; background:240 248 255;">

I would like to thank the community for placing their trust in me during my recent request for adminship, which passed 72 13 2. Rest assured, I have read each comment thoroughly and will be addressing the various concerns raised as I step cautiously into my new role as janitor. In particular, I would like to thank Balloonman for putting so much time into reviewing my contributions and writing such a thoughtful nomination statement after knowing me for only a brief period of time (and for convincing me that I was ready to take up the mop now, rather than go through admin coaching).
 * Thank you for your support

To my fellow admins - please let me know right away if I ever take any mis-steps with my new tools. Should I make a mistake, and you reverse the action, I will not consider it to be wheel-warring (but please tell me so I can understand what I did wrong).

To everyone - please feel free to slap me around a bit if I ever lose sight of the core philosophy of Wikipedia as I understand it - the advancement of knowledge through the processes of mutual understanding and respect. As always, feel free to drop by my talk page if I can be of any assistance. =)

Sincerely,

~xenocidic, 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

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I didn't do anything wrong
I was just correcting spelling mistakes and facts that are obviously wrong. The fact I corrected wasn't cited too. Peace out. 86.147.100.149 (talk) 17:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see any "obvious" corrections you made. The fact that the current article is not properly sourced isn't a cause for adding even further unsourced material. Dusti reverted your edits properly, and left a courteous message saying so on your talk page. We appreciate the attempt to make the article better, and the grammar changes can be re-made with no further issues. Perhaps if you can find a source, you can re-add your information. Let Dusti or I know if you have any questions. Dusti, sorry to step in here, but I needed a break from a real-life work project ;-) Tan   |   39  17:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for the barnstar! It brought a smile to my face. :) Captain   panda  03:34, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * You don't need to patrol Captain panda's asteroid articles. They're whitelisted with User:JVbot. DS (talk) 03:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Why didn't someone tell me that.....oh emm gee!!!  D u s t i complain/compliment 03:39, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Because I just whitelisted Captain panda this morning. The bot is only three days old, anyway. DS (talk) 03:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, hmph! Thanks for the info!!!  D u s t i complain/compliment 10:25, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Your message to me
Hi, what are you referring to in particular please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Totorotroll (talk • contribs) 09:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

RE: your message to me regarding WP:AIV
you are of course entirely correct and I apologise for my oversight. :) Equine-man (talk) 15:56, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem, just wanted to make sure you understood :).  D u s t i complain/compliment 15:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

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WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles
It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main AIDS article was delisted as a Featured Article last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to WP:Medicine.) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the WP:LGBT talk page about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled.

Is Pride POV?
We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic gay pride flag, much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is not neutral. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on Conversion therapy? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a mint julep on the verandah and stop caring?

Harvey Milk and Jim Jones
For the love of all that is holy, no Kool Aid jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk's article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of Jim Jones and the People's Temple. While it may be accurate, there is a Request for Comment regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer...

Queer Studies is offensive!
The established branch of study known as Queer studies was brought up as an category for deletion because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors.

Lambda Literary Awards
What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-fairy, on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put  around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the WP:LGBT talk page. Or you can start with the Lambda Literary Awards, where the goddess of my altar received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by Katherine V. Forrest's wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the Lambda Literary Awards, which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th. The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website.


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Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Arthur C. Clarke and Bernard Montgomery
Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the Hall monitors and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate.

This month's Wiki stars
This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) Mulholland Dr. became a featured article in May. This is A Good Thing since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as lesbian porn. I don't care what Benjiboi says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think Laura Harring would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!)

Compulsive hoarding of templates
Once I saw a harrowing episode of Animal Planet's Animal Cops where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and track lighting in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page.

The Violet Quill and magazines
Zigzig20s suggests we create an article on The Violet Quill, as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (Edmund White, Christopher Cox, Robert Ferro, Michael Grumley, Andrew Holleran, Felice Picano, and George Whitmore). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help.

A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably QW, LGNY, and Lesbian Feminist Liberation.

Mom's nagging for Pride Month
It's June, Pride month. Wear sunscreen, stay hydrated, get a designated driver, then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of drag queens just got fed the f*ck up by the cops raiding the bar and dragging them all out to the pokey again. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss Denver.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: Cheezisyum21, Taineyah, Dustihowe, Avesta69, RachelSummers77, Vivekgopinathan, AMK1211, Staffwaterboy, Ted Ted, Joe5150, Leahtwosaints, Robapalooza, Arthomure, Confusionball, Affinity likely, PrinceOfCanada, Yobmod, Npd2983, Neagley, Bvlax2005, Bvlax2005, Rhullsf, Textorus, Kieran.casey, Tyciol, Meojive, Sappho'd, Bookkeeperoftheoccult,  Gaywarrior, Aujourd'hui, maman est morte, and Balin42632003.

It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Wikipedia.

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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Hello, members and friends of WP:LGBT! I'm not one to be writing newsletters, but I miss our cruise director, Miss Julie, and our project is drifting along with a few leaking plugs in the bottom of the boat. Hey, it happens. Every group we join goes through changes. If Wikipedia weren't so interesting it wouldn't also be so frustrating sometimes. And vice versa. More than one Wikiproject has tumbleweeds blowing through it, but this is one that can't afford to let that happen. Even if you pop in to the talk page of the project, you can let us know you're still around.

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WP:LGBT's Role in HIV / AIDS articles
It wouldn't be a proper gay community without a li'l bit o' drama! That's right. If we aren't arguing about something, then we should be asking if we're still queer. Maybe that's for the best, since we know we're still kicking. Our most recent topic is how far the role of our project should go in dipping our toes into HIV/AIDS articles. The main AIDS article was delisted as a Featured Article last month, sadly. (Sending a swift kick to WP:Medicine.) A spirited discussion is available for your entertainment on the WP:LGBT talk page about just how much of HIV and AIDS should we take on. As ever, we'll take your opinions under advisement. We're going to have to, because it doesn't seem to have been settled.

Is Pride POV?
We have a pretty cool sidebar that identifies core LGBT articles. Its symbol is the iconic gay pride flag, much like other Wikiprojects have iconic symbols denoting the topic is a core subject in a series of articles. However, a question recently arose asking if the symbol itself is not neutral. Should a pride flag show up at the top of the article on Conversion therapy? How else would anyone know the article is about queer issues? Is there another symbol that is as widely recognized and that includes all our many splintered facets? At what point do we stop asking ourselves all these questions and just go have a mint julep on the verandah and stop caring?

Harvey Milk and Jim Jones
For the love of all that is holy, no Kool Aid jokes. However, an editor involved in pioneering San Francisco Supervisor Harvey Milk's article has included a section about the late supervisor's support of Jim Jones and the People's Temple. While it may be accurate, there is a Request for Comment regarding how much emphasis the section places on Milk's support in light of his overall political influence on the city, and indeed the rest of the United States. Milk's article is a sad one in more ways than one. It lacks the detail and heart that honors its subject. Anyone want to do a barter with me? I'll bring Harvey Milk to featured status (give me a month or two so I can read stuff), if you do something of equal value to WP:LGBT?? Make me an offer...

Queer Studies is offensive!
The established branch of study known as Queer studies was brought up as an category for deletion because an editor was offended by the use of "queer" in the title. It was overwhelmingly rejected mostly by the usernames I see here on our Wikiproject page. (A clue that I know you are out there, hiding...biding your time...) So, I wish I could congratulate you, but now I'm all confused by my sympathy for the editor who was offended. So, if you're reading this, Moni has a short memory and can't remember your username. Don't be put off by our demonstrative pushiness. Join us. We can always use involved editors.

Lambda Literary Awards
What can you do to help the project out? Be a wiki-fairy, on many levels. There are all kinds of articles that need help. Why, just this morning I removed those ugly wikify and cleanup tags from four articles at random. If you can put  around stuff, you can clean up articles. There's a list of articles that need attention at the top of the WP:LGBT talk page. Or you can start with the Lambda Literary Awards, where the goddess of my altar received a pioneering award, and was "reduced to rubble" by Katherine V. Forrest's wonderful speech. The 20th ceremony of the Lambda Literary Awards, which celebrates LGBT literature, took place in West Hollywood on May 29th. The page needs to be updated with the new winners, to be found on the official website.


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Yeshayahu Leibowitz, Arthur C. Clarke and Bernard Montgomery
Why on earth would someone want to delete material about homosexuality? 'Tis truly a mystery. But these embattled articles have some random evil gnomes removing information that places these folks under our queer umbrella. Help us keep an eye out for the deletions. Take a peek at the articles, familiarize yourselves with the info, and be handy with the undo function in the article history. If tempers flare, take it to the Hall monitors and let them sort it out. Best solution is to make sure your sources are immaculate.

This month's Wiki stars
This is what I get for opening my big fat mouth and suggesting the newsletter should be revived. Here I am writing it. So, to pat self on back (*cough*) Mulholland Dr. became a featured article in May. This is A Good Thing since it is my personal declaration that there is no such thing as lesbian porn. I don't care what Benjiboi says about the video collection at goodvibes. Instead, we have hot women who connect on a deep, personal, soul-touching level, so this film should qualify as some of the skankiest porn available for lesbians. Plus, it's completely confusing and surreal! D'you think Laura Harring would care that the article is featured? I don't think so either... (Call me, Laura!)

Compulsive hoarding of templates
Once I saw a harrowing episode of Animal Planet's Animal Cops where this guy had, like, 250 cats in his house and it freaked me right out. I'm drawing a parallel between 250 cats and, well...three, really, templates in articles involving LGBT issues. Can we stick to one, maybe? In the aforementioned Harvey Milk's article there's a core LGBT template, a link to the LGBT portal, and a sidebar for LGBT rights. Jiminy! You'd think we weren't the folk to set industrial grey carpeting and track lighting in vogue. An LGBT footer was designed to link to articles of interest that aren't the aforementioned core articles. What do you think, can we have either an LGBT template for core articles, a footer for LGBT articles that are high profile but not core, or an LGBT rights template? As ever, anything's up for discussion on the WP:LGBT talk page.

The Violet Quill and magazines
Zigzig20s suggests we create an article on The Violet Quill, as it seems such a milestone in the advancement of gay/queer literature. Members of the Quill all have pages of their own (Edmund White, Christopher Cox, Robert Ferro, Michael Grumley, Andrew Holleran, Felice Picano, and George Whitmore). We need to find more info on the Quill per se to reference the page that we create. Perhaps Google Books - and libraries? - can help.

A number of magazines also need articles, perhaps most notably QW, LGNY, and Lesbian Feminist Liberation.

Mom's nagging for Pride Month
It's June, Pride month. Wear sunscreen, stay hydrated, get a designated driver, then go half-dressed in the streets find a girlfriend or boyfriend, or some homo who's standing there looking lonely and kiss 'em up real good. Remember, it all started 39 years ago when a bunch of drag queens just got fed the f*ck up by the cops raiding the bar and dragging them all out to the pokey again. Rock on, queens! Enjoy your celebrations. My town's is in October, and 200 people attend. I miss Denver.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Hey, I've seen you around! Sorry there seem to be so many—it's been a while. But we welcome you all: Cheezisyum21, Taineyah, Dustihowe, Avesta69, RachelSummers77, Vivekgopinathan, AMK1211, Staffwaterboy, Ted Ted, Joe5150, Leahtwosaints, Robapalooza, Arthomure, Confusionball, Affinity likely, PrinceOfCanada, Yobmod, Npd2983, Neagley, Bvlax2005, Bvlax2005, Rhullsf, Textorus, Kieran.casey, Tyciol, Meojive, Sappho'd, Bookkeeperoftheoccult,  Gaywarrior, Aujourd'hui, maman est morte, and Balin42632003.

It looks like we've picked up a lot of talent lately. We have no doubt you'll be making your indelible mark on LGBT knowledge as we know it, here at Wikipedia.

- In the immortal words of Miss Julie, "May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon."
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We miss you, Miss Julie, as well as all the others who have graced our project and are on wiki-breaks or just got fed up with all the nuttiness and went to live their lives. Get your stupid houses built and hurry up and come back. --Moni3 (talk) 16:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Moni3 know.
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WP:3RR
Thanks for the concern, but I'm relatively sure block-copying such as this is a reasonable exception. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 23:18, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Ok, if worse comes to worse, I can always just report it to AIV. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 23:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * True, true.....  D u s t i complain/compliment 23:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)