User:Eberhard45~enwiki

Thanks for clarifying that it was Pope Clement that transferred the crown of Sicily to Charles. I knew it was wrong as previously stated, but did not want to offend the original writer over a minor point. Actually the whole first paragraph is chronologically and factually incorrect. Charles did negotiate with Urban IV and reached an oral agreement that Charles was to pay, inter alia, an annual tribute to the Pope of 10,000 ounces of gold. But Urban died before the deal was writen down. Clement then resumed negotiations with Charles, but by that time Manfred was rampaging in all the Guelf cities in northern Italy, and pressing hard on Rome. So Clement reduced the annual tribute to 8,000 oz. of gold. Also, please read my comments on the discussion page for the S.V. There is so much more to be said about this world changing event that is not mentioned. Siciliano99 (talk) 03:20, 16 September 2009 (UTC)Siciliano99