User:EdJogg/Project

=The Workshop= This page is for new articles under construction, or for existing articles going through a lengthy restructuring. Only one article should be present here at any one time.

Current page in the workshop:
 * Fictional Locations in the Railway Series (navibox additions)

=Link Monitor= Just in case someone else gets in first...
 * Clayton & Shuttleworth &mdash; Clayton and Shuttleworth
 * Ransomes & Rapier &mdash; Ransomes and Rapier
 * E R Boston &mdash; E.R.Boston &mdash; Edward Boston &mdash; Teddy Boston
 * Steam wagon &mdash; Steam lorry &mdash; Steam waggon &mdash; Steam truck
 * Sam on Boffs' Island &mdash; Sam on Boff's Island (redirect) &mdash; Sam on Boffs Island &mdash; Sam On Boff's Island &mdash; Sam On Boffs' Island
 * British Engineerium &mdash; British engineerium

=Major Project=

<<<<< Ilfracombe Branch Line >>>>>

 * Well under way now.
 * Still need to work through the two books and add details.
 * Perhaps need a more co-ordinated approach?
 * Suggested that route map should be re-drawn with Ilfracombe at the top (07 Jan 2011)

Plan of Action

 * 1) Fix links in Barnstaple
 * 2) Create redirect pages for Ilfracombe, Braunton, Wrafton
 * 3) Fix links in Barnstaple stations: Junction, Quay, Town
 * 4) Fix Ilfracombe links... (change to Ilfracombe railway station or Ilfracombe Branch Line):
 * 5) 
 * 6) Expand redirect to full Station article:
 * 7) Ilfracombe railway station
 * 8) Link to/from village/town page, per station:
 * 9) Ilfracombe railway station
 * 10) Mortehoe and Woolacombe railway station
 * 11) Barnstaple stations: Junction, Quay, Town
 * 12) Wikify book references
 * 13) Need to create (and link) Devon Belle article
 * 14) Search for other pages that quote Atlantic Coast Express?
 * 15) Add more details for locos
 * 16) Increase detail on own page, summarise and cross link from Branch page, per station:
 * 17) Ilfracombe railway station
 * 18) Mortehoe and Woolacombe railway station
 * 19) Barnstaple stations: Junction, Quay, Town
 * 20) ...everything else...

Links needed

 * Check pages that link to Barnstaple
 * Check pages that link to Ilfracombe

(1) Intro

 * Need a quick description of the line
 * Not very happy with it at present!

(2) History

 * Currently goes from birth to death with little in between
 * Nothing about construction or geology of area

(3) Stations

 * Need to completely revise coverage: need summary of stations (poss in a box?) and move details to the individual stations
 * Check out Sub-britannia for details and pictures of all the stations on the line!

Barnstaple Junction station

 * Provide adequate summary
 * move details to individual station page

Barnstaple Quay station

 * Provide adequate summary
 * move details to individual station page

Barnstaple Town station

 * Provide adequate summary
 * move details to individual station page

Wrafton station

 * Add details from ref books
 * NB Wrafton station does NOT need an individual page
 * Ensure Wrafton is kept up-to-date!

Braunton

 * Add details from ref books
 * NB Braunton station does NOT need an individual page
 * Ensure Braunton is kept up-to-date!

Mortehoe and Woolacombe station

 * Provide adequate summary
 * move details to individual station page

Ilfracombe station

 * Provide adequate summary
 * move details to individual station page


 * Some links to the branch line would be better pointing to this page.
 * Probably should provide reference from the Ilfracombe page too.

(4) Locomotives

 * Just notes at present

(5) Walking the line

 * Need better coverage of line between Barnstaple and Woolacombe

(6) References

 * Need formatting per Wiki policy DONE



=PROJECT: The Railway Stories= The Railway Stories recordings:
 * Much new detail has been discovered but not yet incorporated. Continue monitoring eBay for source material!
 * Update text to incorporate new headings, new info and singles table
 * Pictures needed, for singles, albums and tapes
 * 'Single' info (especially) is still incomplete
 * Mention in intro: "Article does not cover audio releases of TV Series stories, see: TV merchandising"
 * Mention in intro: "Unless otherwise stated, stories are recorded in the same order as the books from which they are taken."

Revised Headings:

 * Johnny Morris recordings
 * Delyse
 * Decca
 * Argo
 * Willie Rushton
 * Decca
 * Argo
 * Ted Robbins
 * Reed/Tempo
 * ELC specials
 * Michael Angelis

Delyse Recordings Table

 * Reformat Delysee recordings into a table:


 * etc



=PROJECT: Steam roller=

Steamroller Tasks

 * New section Influence on English Language (see below)
 * Add new link to 'Allo 'Allo! (series 3) - the longer-than-usual episode "Flight of Fancy" - the Germans drive a steamroller over Herr Flicks's car! article also mentions a rally of 'steam engines' (and tractors), hence may need to mention 'On TV' in Traction engine too.


 * Investigate group Mannheim Steamroller - appears to be named after something unrelated:
 * "He called his band Mannheim Steamroller, which is the name of an 18th-Century musical technique that we know today as the crescendo." (see )
 * See Mannheim school, Mannheim rocket - latter refers to the 'Mannheim roller', but the addition of the word 'steam' is probably a later idea!

History of road construction techniques

 * not obviously covered, but there are snippets here and there:
 * A151 road, which links to steam roller, also includes this section on how roads were made during the 19th century, including reference to the use of a scarifier. This needs to go somewhere (or be found somewhere) on Wiki! (which we need to link to from steamroller...)
 * Likewise Tarmac describes the evolution from macadam (which mentions what a roller actually does) to tarmacadam and mentions asphalt (the correct term for which is asphalt concrete, whose article mentions compaction (briefly) but not rollers).
 * Also see Pavement (material)

Add info:

 * Construction detail differences between rollers and Traction engines
 * water-filled rollers?,
 * See A151 road, for a hint at WHY scarifiers were fitted...
 * How used - significant omission
 * Additional detail and images from Great Dorset Steam Fair
 * Post-retirement in playparks (eg Slough and ?(ask DEJ) )
 * Special Types:
 * Tapered boiler (eg Wallis & Steevens 'Advance' type)
 * 2-wheel ('tandem')
 * convertible

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Suggested new heading:

(Need to determine etymology of the word before adding this... See  - steam-roller (noun) dates from 1866, while as a verb, dates from 1912)

Influence on English language
A steam roller working at full speed must have been an awesome sight to the Victorians: the impression of bulk and weight as the bumpy ground submitted to this unstoppable, fiery beast. It is small wonder that the verb 'to steamroller' has entered the English language.

'Disambiguation'
"what's the meaning of steamroller?"

THIS NEEDS RE-WRITING + SIMPLIFYING TO AVOID COPYRIGHT ISSUES SUGGEST USING THE THESAURUS DEFS AS A BASIS FOR DICTIONARY DEFS...

With assistance from The Free Dictionary, the following definitions apply:

Noun:
 * 1) A steam-driven machine equipped with a heavy roller for smoothing road surfaces.
 * 2) A similar machine with an internal-combustion engine. (see: road roller)
 * 3) A ruthless or irresistible force or power.
 * 4) Pipe for smoking drugs (see: steamroller (pipe))

Verb:

v.tr.
 * 1) To smooth or level (a road) with a steamroller.
 * 2) To overwhelm or suppress ruthlessly; crush.

v.intr.
 * 1) To move or proceed with overwhelming or crushing force.

And from the Thesaurus:

Noun:
 * 1) steamroller - a massive inexorable force that seems to crush everything in its way
 * 2) steamroller - vehicle equipped with heavy wide smooth rollers for compacting roads and pavements

Verb:
 * 1) steamroller - bring to a specified state by overwhelming force or pressure; "The Senator steamrollered the bill to defeat"
 * 2) steamroller - proceed with great force; "The new teacher tends to steamroller"
 * 3) steamroller - crush with a steamroller as if to level; "steamroller the road"
 * 4) steamroller - overwhelm by using great force; "steamroller the opposition"
 * 5) steamroller - make level or flat with a steamroller; "steamroll the roads"

Redirects to steamroller:
 * Steam roller
 * Steam Roller
 * steam-roller



=PROJECT: Sam on Boffs' Island=
 * UPDATE Feb 2011 -- New reference site found (and added to article as EL) -- use this as the basis for further work!!
 * UPDATE Nov 2009 -- if you'd spelt it right, you might have found more! (It's "Boffs'" not "Boff's"!!)
 * New Page Needed See Sam on Boffs' Island
 * Programme is mentioned on Tony Robinson's page, but is not Wiki'd.
 * Very few references on the web.
 * Definitely time for Wikipedia to come to the rescue!

Reference Sources

 * Annual, published by BBC, 1973 (obtained from eBay - only copy listed since Aug 2006!!)
 * School workbooks, pub by BBC autumn term 1972 and spring term 1973
 * Sophie!!!!!
 * "Seeing Things" -- Oliver Postgate's autobiography.
 * Internet: following links are entire Google output as of 16 Jun 06 !!!
 * This web page shows the annual from 1973.
 * This is a Kids TV forum page regarding SoBI (last entry Sept 05 - no new info!) - however it does mention the school work book in passing (again - see home reference!!).
 * Useful refs at TV Cream and TV Cream school's progs - search for 'boff'!
 * Programme was part made by Smallfilms (see Oliver Postgate's Autobiography "Seeing Things")
 * need to research this further...

(See Garfield for images that provide suitable Wikipedia Fair use and copyright information.)
 * Will be able to use scanned character images from source material.

Add Wiki-Links on Pages

 * Tony Robinson
 * Smallfilms
 * Oliver Postgate & Peter Firmin
 * List of BBC television programming
 * List of television programs by letter

Note that there appear to be no Wiki pages that reference BBC Schools programmes, nor Words and Pictures (NB - that link is to a 1997 album)...


 * Include in categories:
 * Category:BBC children's television shows



=PROJECT: Clayton & Shuttleworth= Clayton & Shuttleworth was an engineering and manufacturing company based in Lincoln, England. The company became one of the largest manufacturers of portable engines and traction engines in the world.

History
(raw copy from Shuttleworth History page)


 * Joseph Shuttleworth (1819-1883) was born the son of John and Rebecca Shuttleworth of Dogdyke in Lincolnshire, where he inherited a boat building business. He formed a partnership with Nathaniel Clayton, an iron foundry owner in Lincoln. Together they set up and developed a successful engineering firm, Clayton and Shuttleworth, and specialised in building steam engines and agricultural machinery.

(end raw copy)

The Shuttleworth Collection
There is a direct family connection between the firm Clayton & Shuttleworth and The Shuttleworth Collection.

Joseph Shuttleworth, co-founder of Clayton and Shuttleworth, married Sarah Grace Clayton in 1841 and they had two sons: Alfred and Frank.

Frank (later, Colonel) Shuttleworth (b.1845, d.1913) became Chairman of the family firm, and a Director of the Great Northern Railway. In 1902 he married Dorothy (b.1879, d.1968) the young daughter of the Vicar of Old Warden, the location of the Shuttleworth Estate. Their marriage was happy but short, as Frank died in 1913.

Frank's only son, Richard Ormonde Shuttleworth (b.1909, d.1940), enjoyed tinkering with cars and mechanical devices when he was a young boy. He inherited the family fortune at the age of 23, and took over the management of the Estate. Pursuing his mechanical interests, Richard gathered a sizeable collection of old cars and, later, aeroplanes too, restoring them to working order. It is these that form the nucleus of the Shuttleworth Collection at Old Warden Aerodrome, which he also constructed.

Richard joined the Royal Air Force in 1939 but, tragically, was killed on a training flight in August 1940. His mother, Dorothy, was devastated, but nevertheless opened the family mansion as a Red Cross home for convalescing airmen. After the war she placed the Estate in a charitable trust in memory of her son, and in 1963 the Shuttleworth Collection was opened to the public for the first time.

Links Required

 * Ransome (dab) is currently redirected to Ransom (disambiguation) – ''must move 'Ransome' links and upgrade Ransome accordingly
 * New redir reqd: Ransomes and Rapier – all current examples traced have been changed

History

 * Company originated from Ransomes, Sims & Jefferies – which has little info about original company, mostly about later stuff!


 * Frederick Wilfred Scott Stokes (1860-1927) – was chairman and managing director of R&R
 * Richard Stokes (1897-1957) – became managing director of R&R Ltd
 * This CANNOT be a coincidence, yet neither article mentions the other!!!!!!!!!


 * Taken over by Newton, Chambers & Company in 1958

Products

 * There is a turntable at the Nene Valley Railway – link created, but article needs HUGE amount of wikilinking!
 * Sundew (dragline) – built by R&R
 * Buffer stop – reqs copy-edit + photo of hydraulic buffers at Waterloo/Paddington
 * According to its article, Bucyrus International took over Marion Power Shovel in 1997, and now markets products under the "Ransomes Rapier" [sic] name.


 * Links to R&R required (as manufacturer) to:
 * turntable (railroad)
 * crane (railroad)
 * crane (machine) – currently linked to Ransomes, Sims & Jefferies
 * Dragline excavator – link already present in text



=PROJECT: Salvage Squad=
 * Salvage Squad has now been created, but really little more than a list of the vehicle types restored.


 * Three series to cover - fortunately there are good details on the Channel 4 website Salvage Squad. Google search will also reveal good info (including a page on the Centurion tank).


 * PRJ has pic of "Margaret" at GDSF 2006
 * Picture captions to start either: 'Example:' or, if pic of actual vehicle available: 'Restored:'
 * Need to add Infobox television

Per-machine information format

 * Orig. broadcast dates available through IMDB entries
 * For each entry (eventually a heading:
 * Machine xxxx (19yy)
 * Programme 'n' of 10 – first broadcast dd mmm yyyy (Restoration report [link])
 * Para 1 – what restored, where, original condition
 * Para 2 – history
 * Para 3 – what required restoring + how
 * Para 4 – conclusion and where located now



=PROJECT: History of steam road vehicles= Provides a common location for the history of road vehicle development, which was often inter-twined and not ness separate from boat devel. Include in categories:
 * Category:Steam power (great-grand-parent)
 * Category:Steam road vehicles (parent)
 * Category:History of transportation

NB - Category:Steam vehicles provides a parent article for all the other vehicle articles, such as trains, boats, tanks (!) and planes!

Source material
Articles containing pertinent information, which should be generally rationalised into this new article - with each article highlighting specific pertinent facts only, and providing History of steam road vehicles as the 'main' article...
 * steam tricycle
 * steam car
 * truck
 * see also History of Traction Engine timeline below.

Link to/from

 * Vehicle propulsion -- currently links to steam car



=PROJECT: History of the Traction Engine=

Timelines

 * According to Case Corporation (US history):
 * 1842 -- Jerome Increase Case founded J I Case Company to make threshing machines
 * 1869 -- (Case'e) first portable steam engine
 * c1879 -- (Case'e) first self-propelled traction engine
 * c1900 -- Case was most prolific engine manufacturer in North America
 * 1927 -- Case stopped manufacturing steam engines, having produced over 30,000



=PROJECT: British Engineerium= ''Talk about a backlog...this was written before the article was created, and passed to GA today (EdJogg (talk))! Still worth double-checking that these references and information have been used.''

Bit difficult, seeing as I've never been there and it's currently closed.

Nevertheless, here are some useful links:
 * Official website
 * 07 Nov 2006 -- Engineerium's new plans outlined
 * 10 May 2006 -- Entire museum collection bought
 * 03 May 2006 -- Upset as industrial museum shuts
 * It is Grade 2 listed Images of England page is here, and also includes useful history information and details of content
 * Geograph image, and another (gorgeous B&W!!)
 * and many more!

Also note the Feb 2008 Old Glory may be used as a ref for 'what happens next' (the sample article page has been stored on home PC!)


 * 14 Sept 09
 * searched for links within WP, and all refs now (red-)linked (except the Brighton bus route page!
 * Created cat at Commons and populated it with the three photos

=PROJECT: John Hazledine=
 * See Rolling mill (etc)
 * History of steel-making plant already in the hot rolling article?

Refs to John Hazeldine (sic) patent:
 * British Patent no 2244 of 1798 - use of horizontal and vertical rolls in conjunction with guides (pic in 'hot rolling' ref)
 * Cold Rolling of Steel (Google Books result)
 * "...In the same year, John Hazeldine added mechanical guides to a rod mill, as shown in Figure 1-9. t "Rolling Mills, Rolls and Roll Making", ..." can't seem to see this page (bother!)
 * Hot Rolling of Steel (Google Books result)



=PROJECT: Elsecar Heritage Centre=
 * Add Geograph pics (index page) to Commons:
 * Elsecar heritage centre
 * Elsecar Newcomen Engine (1) - Sunny
 * Elsecar Newcomen Engine (2) - Cloudy, better angle
 * Elsecar Newcomen Engine (3) - Interior view


 * History of Elsecar centre... (missing from article!)


 * Add pics to articles:
 * Newcomen steam engine
 * Beam engine
 * Elsecar Heritage Centre


 * Add text (from beam engine book) to:
 * Newcomen steam engine
 * Beam engine
 * Elsecar Heritage Centre

=MINI PROJECTS=

Traction engine

 * Useful page: [http://www.hollowellsteam.com/glossary.htm a dictionary of terms relating to steam engines (including NHP) and the like - some VERY GOOD source material for the article...
 * Also see this 1898 ebook (part of Project Gutenberg) which notes how to calculate NHP: eBook cached
 * Much, much more (not yet listed)...

List of traction engine manufacturers

 * Add details of products made?



=FUTURE WORK?=

Active Maintenance
Edited pages that require monitoring or future updates.

The Railway Series Characters
These have been 'fully edited' (both book and TV) - watch for vandalism!
 * Oliver the Western Engine
 * Daisy the Diesel Rail-car
 * City of Truro
 * Stepney the "Bluebell" Engine
 * Neil the Boxtank Engine

Investigaton

 * Investigate: Tools/Navigation popups (aka 'popups' in edit summaries)

Slough to Windsor & Eton Line

 * Needs moving (eg to Windsor Branch Line) DONE - (redirect created 26 Apr 07)
 * Templates need adjusting NO - Existing article name is consistent, and avoids confusion with Southern route
 * Add cross-ref from Slough railway station DONE
 * Add cross-ref from Windsor and Eton Central railway station DONE
 * Create structure and content as for Marlow Branch Line
 * History needed
 * Pictures needed (Marlow Branch Line includes a pic of a 2-car Class 165, which would do!) DONE
 * Details needed

Lynton and Lynmouth Cliff Railway

 * Some typos in existing text DONE
 * Add Operation and History headings DONE
 * Use Official web page for source info about how it works
 * Include ref to official guidebook.
 * Add 'list of funicular railways' to pages needing attention - Aberystwyth lift is only a stub, for example.



Miscellaneous

 * European Route of Industrial Heritage
 * Find articles which are ERIH anchor points, add ERIH text and cat (see ERIH talk page)


 * Crane (machine)
 * Include new section for 'Hand Crane', with pic from Commons
 * Include pics of steam/dock cranes from Bristol Industrial Museum article
 * For all types, there are LOADS of pics at Commons -- find better replacements where possible

Steam-related

 * Steam shovel and satellite pages
 * Much wikilinking needed
 * Add commons pic of the (diesel-powered) steam crane showing boom arrangement
 * Bristol Harbour Railway
 * as part of Bristol Industrial Museum, has several preserved steam tugs and a (dock) steam crane (inc. picture)
 * Hollycombe Steam Collection
 * stub, and not NPOV, neither!
 * Fred Dibnah
 * more details of Betsy are available (eg official site) - but should it be described on Fred's page or at steam roller?
 * Plenty of sites available to describe "Digging with Dibnah" - could create a page for it!
 * Try these for starters: good site by one of the diggers, lots of mine plans! (- lots more pics here!!), Obituary (The Times), official biog


 * Steam engine
 * New section required on modern applications of steam engines, for example:
 * ''Add information from IAASP website (International Association for the Advancement of Steam Power)
 * new section describing development of hybrid engines by BMW.
 * etc

British (Steam) Engineering companies
Patricularly concentrating on locomotive and traction engine manufacturers...
 * Clayton & Shuttleworth – slated as potential project -- see above
 * Cowans, Sheldon & Company – see crane (railroad) and Finnieston Crane
 * Ransomes & Rapier – slated as potential project -- see above
 * Ruston & Hornsby and Ruston, Proctor and Company are both in Ruston (engine builder)
 * Ruston-Bucyrus – seems to be missing entirely
 * Mirrlees Blackstone Ltd – barely gets a mention at the end of MAN B&W Diesel, but it's talk page encourages expansion. (Mirrlees and Mirlees redirects also created, although double-redirect since bot-edited).
 * Charles Burrell & Sons – various refs.
 * See Brilliant history of Burrells, including some out-of copyright images (although some may be available in The TE book)

Pumping station articles
Most are just stubs! Check out others in the list at Pumping station.
 * Abbey Pumping Station
 * page reqs detail
 * Abbey Mills Pumping Stations
 * Brunel Engine House
 * Claymills pumping station
 * Crofton Pumping Station
 * Crossness Pumping Station
 * Hollycombe Steam Collection
 * Kempton Park Steam Engines
 * stub, and not NPOV, neither!
 * Kew Bridge Steam Museum
 * when first seen, just a stub
 * Markfield Beam Engine
 * Prickwillow – a village whose main claim to fame is a pumping museum!
 * Smethwick engine
 * Stretham Old Engine
 * Westonzoyland Pumping Station Museum

Canals

 * Wey and Arun Canal - more history of restoration needed
 * Basingstoke Canal - little information about restoration

Railway

 * Slough station
 * Windsor and Eton Central railway station
 * Swindon & Cricklade Railway - note that it is OK to create a new page with the correct '&' name and redirect the 'and' version - see WEFC as an example.


 * Hudswell Clarke - ideal for pic of no.3 !


 * Tarka Trail - sort out references, and indicate actual trackbed sections used


 * Slough Trading Estate - no mention of the railway and little of its history.<BR>Need to correct links between here and Slough Estates (eg on Sir Nigel Mobbs page, which is a bad link, and ensure consistency for Slough Estates Ltd rather than the PLC form.

Railway with excess US bias
(re-write to remove US bias)

Switcher

 * Needs re-arranging (too US-centric)
 * See Talk:Switcher for approach to take (and further ideas)
 * Also see Control car (rail) as an example of how page to be re-arranged<BR>(Note that the introductory paragraph of this page needs US-specific language replaced)

Road Transport

 * Land Rovers

Model Cars

 * Matchbox cars

Work

 * Sharp Corporation - no refs to mobile phones! (see also new articles below)
 * Ferranti - doesn't mention Bracknell, + little on Ferranti Computer Systems Ltd
 * FTSS redirects to TMSL<BR> but this is a stub with very little info, and no mention of Fleet, Church Crookham,<BR> Ferranti International Sonar Systems (was that what it was called?) or DBE

FTSS was an offshoot from Ferranti Computer Systems, and had a small site in Church Crookham near Fleet. Try this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales_Underwater_Systems
 * Um, thankyou. Church Crookham was a fairly small site....I worked there for ten years! EdJogg (talk) 00:33, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

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Football

 * Slough Town F.C. - very little here, not even a link to the official site
 * (compare with Windsor_and_Eton_F.C. which has 'everything'!)
 * Also see: WikiProject Non-league football - added to STFC talk page?

UK Places

 * Burpham, Surrey
 * Major copy-edit completed
 * Images needed (try, 'Geograph')


 * Merrow, Surrey
 * Major copy-edit completed
 * Images needed (try, 'Geograph')
 * Need coverage of the Race Course and the PoW camp (see Merrow Residents Association website)
 * More detail for St John's church
 * Data (dates?) confirmation for existing text incl old names of pub


 * Woolacombe - detail and pictures required (plus railway info?)


 * Mortehoe - minimal information at present (added by EdJogg!) plus a few pics!

Literary

 * Agaton Sax - add note regarding Kenneth Williams and Jackanory (check facts first!)

Lorenzo the Llama
Audiobook stories by Johnny Morris
 * Add details to Johnny Morris page, including images of singles (as a gallery?)
 * Cheat and use cropped image of single to provide pic of JM!! (while we can get away with it!)
 * Create redirect Lorenzo the llama
 * Link to Meccano (publisher!) - possibly as new page 'Pied Piper'?
 * Add to Llama - section for 'in popular culture'

Asterix Audiobooks
The six audiobooks by William Rushton.
 * Asterix the Gaul
 * Asterix the Gladiator
 * Asterix in Britain
 * Asterix and the Magic Carpet
 * Asterix and Cleopatra / Asterix and the Black Gold (combined volume)


 * Asterix
 * add note towards end of intro to say audiobook versions were made
 * List of Asterix volumes - add new section for audiobooks
 * General overview, based on books, adaptations by Anthea Bell
 * Table to show titles, date, code
 * Mention need to describe pictures and visual gags
 * Examples reqd, eg signposts, battle scenes, Obelix collecting helmets
 * Comparison with TV programme transferring to radio (eg Dad's Army)
 * Possible para:
 * Often, audiobook adaptations require the book in question to be abridged, in order to reduce the overall duration to something manageable. For the Asterix books, the opposite is true, as they must be more than just unabridged, since the spoken text must be adapted to suit the comic-book format of the original.  A large proportion of the humour is carried through visual gags.  These, by necessity, must be described to the listeners, along with sufficient description of the pictures to keep the story flowing.


 * Willie Rushton's characterisations 'bring book alive'
 * Asterix as cockney wideboy
 * Obelix: slow + gentle, a bit dense
 * etc
 * POV - recommended to all (British) Asterix fans!!!
 * Add new section to each indiv book title (see above)
 * include cover pic
 * 'Audio book' cat
 * link back to main article for general notes

Christian

 * Phatfish - Wikification needed - also smartening up (too much block text!)

New Articles Needed
Potential Major projects...?

Gumdrop (fictional car) and Val Biro
*New pages needed **Val Biro still not added
 * Gumdrop (fictional car) created, initially as a redirect to Austin 12 hp
 * Add to List of fictional vehicles - DONE
 * Need full list of books (apparently there are 37+ titles!)
 * Need to scan some book covers


 * Update - Val Biro created March 2009 + expanded by EdJogg on 3rd June
 * Austin 12 hp also updated


 * There is a good Val Biro link from his page...

Steam Traction
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 * Many independent UK steam loco manufacturers are missing
 * Steam ploughing/Farming with Steam/Steam agriculture<BR> - to include (separate articles, or not?):
 * Ploughing engines (currently a redirect to Traction engines - created by EdJogg)
 * Balance Plough (+ x-ref to/from Ploughs)
 * Unusual Capstan ploughing system, as seen at GDSF in 2005
 * Note that article on Ploughs skips from horse-drawn to tractor-drawn
 * Steam yachts - the fairground ride
 * Also see Category:Amusement rides
 * NB Carousel does not really cover the steam-operated aspect well
 * Steam lorry/Steam wagon
 * Brief mentions under Truck and (even less) under Traction engine
 * See Sentinel Waggon Works for a little more detail and some pics
 * Also see Category:Road transport - high level, there are better ones!
 * Steam narrow boat "President"
 * Mentioned in passing on narrow boat page
 * See official website

Work

 * List of Sharp products - no refs to Sharp's mobiles anywhere! (cf Nokia)
 * Sharp GX15
 * Sharp Aquos
 * etc

Model Cars

 * Lesney

Christian

 * Jonathan Veira
 * listed on ICC Records (are releases on this label notable enough?)
 * should be on lists of Christian musicians and baritones (?)
 * JV's homepage!
 * Must check notability guidelines, etc vs WP:BAND (especially), WP:BIO and WP:LIVING


 * St. Mary's Parish Church, Slough
 * Plenty of source material!
 * list of stained glass windows
 * must write (snailmail) to tell them of misspelling of Wolmark's name! (see below)
 * West Window:
 * need to add Alfred Wolmark, designer (see biography, and elsewhere)
 * also need to modify Stained glass, to include a ref.

Walking routes in North Devon
Following on from extract at DCC Tarka Trail page:
 * Coincides with the South West Coast Path for part of its route, Two Moors Way for another part and the Dartmoor Way for a third; links with the West Devon Way, Two Castles Trail, Little Dart Ridge and Valley Walk and Dartmoor Way.

All of the 'red' routes mentioned deserve coverage in WP. Start here to find initial information.

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=Archived Wiki-help Queries=

Technical Queries
Archived Technical Queries from Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) (WP:VPT)

Missing Edit Toolbar in IE
Hi.<BR> I have use of a Win2K laptop (with IE6.0) at work, and a venerable Win98SE PC (with IE 5.5) at home.<BR>If I edit at work, I can see the edit toolbar, yet I cannot see the toolbar when editing at home.<BR>(At home, an error is also reported on the IE status bar.) <BR><BR> I am sure that there is 'something missing' in my home setup, but I have not yet been able to establish what it might be. <BR><BR> Is there a 'minimum spec.' PC required for editing Wikipedia? Else, any clues as to what I might be able to do to fix the problem? (Unfortunately, upgrading to a newer PC is not financially viable at present.) <BR>EdJogg 17:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, you might consider visiting Windows Update and upgrading to IE 6.0 at least. :)


 * If you can report details of the error at http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ we might be able to take a look and fix it if we can get ahold of a copy of IE 5.5, but no guarantees. --Brion 20:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Or try Mozilla Firefox? --Aude ( talk | contribs ) 20:40, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

<BR> Follow-up
 * 1) Buttons are visible in Firefox, even on Win98SE PC!
 * 2) Haven't tried IE6 upgrade yet

Error on selecting 'Save page' (Vista)
My new Vista-based PC is set up with multiple accounts – one for each of the family, plus one admin account. On accounts where Parental Controls have been enabled, I am seeing a problem when trying to save an edited page.

When 'Save page' is pressed, the updated page is not displayed. Instead, I get an essentially blank page saying the following:

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage <BR><BR> Most likely causes: - You are not connected to the Internet. - The website is encountering problems. - There might be a typing error in the address.

The URL in the address bar is unchanged (it still ends 'submit'), but clicking 'Refresh' clears the error page and reloads the article page in edit mode. (This confused me for a while, until I realised that my previous edits HAD been accepted, and I had re-opened the saved page for a further edit.)

The problem is NOT caused by a page filter, as my account does not have any URL restrictions enabled. (My account has a time restriction set, to disable access at midnight in a desperate attempt to stop me editing WP late into the night :o. Disabling all restrictions and restarting the account cleared the problem, but re-enabling the time limit restriction brought the error back again. I never see the problem in my admin account, but see it 100% in restricted accounts.

The problem applies to both WP and 'Commons'.


 * So, any ideas?
 * Is it purely a Vista problem?
 * Were the WP tecchies aware of it?
 * Is there anything I can do to avoid the problem, short of disabling the restrictions?

EdJogg 19:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The problem hasn't been reported to the bug tracker yet, as far as I can see; you can file a bug report at . I can't think of any solutions to this (maybe someone else at VPT can?). I suspect it's a Vista problem, or it would probably have been noticed before now. --ais523 11:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

<BR> Follow-up
 * 1) none

Strange lines in Skarloey Railway (viewed with IE7)
Just noticed a problem in Skarloey Railway. There is a heading and a spoiler warning box sandwiched between a TOCleft box and a map image (this is not the problem!). However, in IE7 the lines from the spoiler warning and the underline for the heading stretch across the page, overwriting the TOC and the map. This does not occur in IE 5.5 and IE 6, in which I created/maintained this layout for the page.

Anyone got any ideas?

EdJogg 23:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Weird lines in IE7 for me, none in Firefox. I have no idea why, just confirming it's a real problem. Nardman1 23:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The Firefox rendering is most likely correct, but in any case I spaced out the text so there is no longer a problem. —Remember the dot (talk) 03:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC) <BR> Follow-up
 * 1) none

Assistance Queries
Archived Assistance Queries from Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance) (WP:VPA)

External links to Geocaches. Appropriate?
An external link to a specific geocache site (see geocaching) has been added to Elsbridge. My gut feeling is that the link is not appropriate, and should be deleted, especially since the article is about a fictional location! However, I have had a look at WP:EL and I'm still uncertain.

The main reason for seeking advice here is that the External Link search tool brings up nearly 100 links to www.geocaching.com, and I was wondering whether there was any kind of precedent/guidance/policy/advice for including or removing links to specific geocache locations?

If others feel that such links should be removed en masse then the appropriate Project/Task Force needs to be alerted.

EdJogg 12:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC) <BR> Follow-up
 * 1) No responses within 7 days -- Q reposted at: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) (WP:VPP)''
 * 2) See below...

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Policy Queries
Archived Assistance Queries from Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) (WP:VPP)

External links to Geocaches. Appropriate per WP:EL?
An external link to a page describing a specific geocache site (see geocaching) has been added to Elsbridge. My gut feeling is that the link is not appropriate, and should be deleted, especially since the article is about a fictional location! However, I have had a look at WP:EL and I'm still uncertain.

The main reason for seeking advice here is that the External Link search tool currently brings up just over 100 links to www.geocaching.com, the most popular site, and I was wondering whether there was any kind of precedent/guidance/policy/advice for including or removing links to specific geocache locations?

The list includes a large number of user pages, and a number of links that are probably appropriate examples, neither of which are a problem. However, a significant number of instances occur on specific location pages, pointing at specific cache details, and it is these in particular that I am questioning. Should a WP location article feature a link to a geocache sited at that location?

(This query was previously posted, without attracting a response, on the VP(assistance) page.)

EdJogg 13:08, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I have not heard of this before. It is obviously of great interest to a minority of people, but that hardly justifies the link. If it does not directly relate to the subject matter in a useful way, get rid of it. Just my opinion.  Adrian   M. H.  18:05, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

<BR> Follow-up
 * 1) The offending link on Elsbridge was removed by a different editor as 'irrelevant'.

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=Non-Project= Nothing to do with a project, this text was extracted from the Culdee Fell Railway talk page before a ream of gibberish from Felix was archived.

I just wanted to keep it to hand cos it was kinda fun!

CFR Talk page rationalisation?
Hi all project members. Apart from the one major contributor, can anyone see any particular reason why this talk page cannot be rationalised to contain just the pertinent information regarding the 'real' CFR (the section named 'Title', only, I think!)?? The rest makes pretty boring reading. If there are (admin) objections regarding preservation of archives, etc, the text could be moved to the most relevant talk page... Thoughts?

EdJogg 16:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
 * To be clear, let's remove FelixCheng's mainly irrelevant ramblings? Yes, let's. But the correct procedure is to archive the page. I suggest we archive everything up to the end of this conversation, so we start with a fresh talk page. I'm happy to do that unless there are objections. I'll also drop Felix a note asking him to refrain from posting to this page unless he has substantive comments about the article to make. Gwernol 16:25, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Ho-hum! I think you've hit the timber fixing on the bonce...
 * I've always been known as someone who calls a spade a manually-operated soil-turning implement!!
 * EdJogg 18:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)


 * My personal preponderance is to eschew extrapolatory over-abundance of unnecessary verbiosity and, without circumlocution that would be described (in certain circles at least) at perhaps being less than direct - in other words, slapping or whipping around-abouts the proverbial verdant leafy shrubbery dweller -, to drive, steer or force one's way in the most from-here-to-there manner possible and/or appropriate to the very pin-sharp end-goal of the discourse's logical conclusion. I will go ahead and archive this page shortly. Gwernol 19:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)