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Falcon9 NROL-76

 * Flight 30, CRS-10, first launch from refurbished pad LC-39A at the Kennedy Space Center
 * Flight 32, SES-10, first launch and landing of a previously flown orbital class booster (previously used for CRS-8), first recovery of a fairing
 * Flight 33,NROL-76 first launch of a US Military payload on a Falcon 9.

THAAD
On 6 March 2017, two THAAD launcher trucks arrived by air transport at Osan Air Base South Korea, for a deployment. Earlier that day, North Korea had launched 4 missiles. A Reuters article stated that with the THAAD defense system, a North Korean missile barrage would still pose a threat to South Korea, while an article in the International Journal of Space Politics & Policy said that South Korean forces already possess Patriot systems for point defense and Aegis destroyers capable of stopping ballistic missiles that may come from the north, in a three-layer antimissile defense for South Korea. On 16 March 2017, a THAAD radar arrived in South Korea. The THAAD system is kept at Osan Air Base until the site where the system is due to be deployed is prepared, with an expected ready date of June 2017. Osan Air Base has blast-hardened command posts, with 3 levels of blast doors. By 25 April 2017, six trailers carrying the THAAD radar, interceptor launchers, communications, and support equipment entered the Seongju site. On 30 April 2017, South Korea stated that it would bear the cost of the land and facilities for THAAD, while US National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster confirmed that the US would not seek South Korean money for operating THAAD.

On 2 May 2017, Moon Sang-gyun, with the South Korean Defense Ministry and Col. Robert Manning III, a spokesman for the United States military announced that the THAAD system located in Seongju is now operational and "has the ability to intercept North Korean missiles and defend South Korea." According to one DOD official, while the system is online, it will not reach its full operational potential until later this year when additional elements of the system are delivered onsite.

Apollo 12
When Apollo 12 launched on November 14, 1969, Aaron was on shift. Thirty-six seconds after liftoff, the spacecraft was struck by lightning, causing a power surge. Instruments began to malfunction and telemetry data became garbled. The flight director, Gerry Griffin, expected that he would have to abort the mission. However, Aaron realized that he had previously seen this odd pattern of telemetry.

A year before the flight, Aaron had been observing a test at Kennedy Space Center when he had noticed some unusual telemetry readings. On his own initiative, he traced this anomaly back to the obscure Signal Conditioning Electronics (SCE) system, and became one of the few flight controllers who was familiar with the system and its operations. For the case that first drew his attention to the system, normal readings could be restored by putting the SCE on its auxiliary setting, which meant that it would operate even with low-voltage conditions.

Aaron surmised that this setting would also return the Apollo 12 telemetry to normal. When he made the recommendation to the Flight Director, "Flight, try SCE to Aux", most of his mission control colleagues had no idea what he was talking about. Both the flight director and the CAPCOM Gerald P. Carr asked him to repeat the recommendation. Aaron repeated himself and Carr responded "What the hell's that." Yet relayed the order to the capsule; "Apollo 12, Houston. Try SCE to auxiliary." Fortunately Alan Bean was familiar with the location of the SCE switch inside the capsule, and flipped it to aux. Telemetry was immediately restored, allowing the mission to continue. This earned Aaron the lasting respect of his colleagues, who declared that he was a "steely-eyed missile man".

What the hell is that quote (John Aaron Talk Page)
According to mission transcripts it was not Pete Conrad who responded "What the hell is that?" to John Aaron's "Try SCE to AUX".
 * Aaron first said "Try SCE to AUX" to the CAPCOM Gerald Carr who responded "What the hell's that?". The radio traffic from ground to SC was after this.
 * CAPCOM "Apollo 12, Houston. Try SCE to auxiliary."
 * SC    "NCE to auxiliary"
 * CAPCOM "SCE, SCE to auxiliary. Mark 1, Charlie."
 * SC    "1 CHARLIE, Houston, Apollo."
 * CAPCOM "Apollo 12, Houston GO for staging"

Emaier138 (talk) 09:28, 12 September 2018 (UTC)Emaier138 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emaier138 (talk • contribs) 09:23, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Final Article View
On January 21, 2017, while White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer held his first press briefing, he accused the media of deliberately underestimating the size of the crowd for President Trump's inaugural ceremony and stated that the ceremony had drawn the "largest audience to ever witness an inauguration – period – both in person and around the globe." According to available data and photographic evidence, Spicer's claims and allegations were false. Aerial images showed that the turnout for Trump's inauguration was lower than the turnout for the 2009 inauguration of Barack Obama. Spicer claimed that 420,000 people rode the DC Metro on inauguration day 2017, compared to 317,000 in 2013. It is "unclear where his 420,000 figure... comes from" or what time periods he was comparing. Actual ridership figures between midnight and 11 AM were 193,000 in 2017, 317,000 in 2013. Full-day ridership was 570,557 in 2017, 782,000 in 2013.



Spicer also gave incorrect information about the use of white ground coverings during the inauguration. He stated that they were used for the first time during the Trump inauguration and were to blame for a visual effect that made the audience look smaller. The white ground coverings, however, had been used in 2013 when Obama was sworn in for the second term. Spicer did not take questions from the media at the press briefing.

Meet the Press Interview
On the January 22nd episode of Meet the Press, host Chuck Todd interviewed U.S. Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway, to discuss the recent inauguration and the comments made by Press Secretary Sean Spicer the previous day. After a brief introduction, Todd asked Conway why President Trump chose, on his first day, to have his press secretary issue false information regarding the size of the crowd at his inauguration. Conway deflected the question, noting that President Trump did many things on his first day, and continued off topic by discussing the repeal and replacement of the Affordable Care Act. Conway eventually returned, unprompted, to address the size of the crowd at President Trump’s inauguration, arguing that Presidents should be judged by their actions rather than the crowd size at their inauguration. Despite her comment, Conway went on to cite Nielsen rating data listing viewership of the inauguration at 31 million; contrasting this to the 20.5 million viewers of Obama's 2013 inauguration (for comparison, President Obama's 2009 inauguration had 37.8 million viewers and President Reagan's 1981 inauguration had 41.8 million viewers). She also alluded that the crowd may have been smaller than Spicer originally stated, acknowledging that rain in the forecast may have impacted turnout. Todd conceded that Conway made a fair point concerning the irrelevance of Presidential inauguration size and returned the conversation back to his original question. "He also serves as the spokesperson for all of America at times. He speaks for all of the country at times. Why put him out there for the very first time in front of that podium to utter a provable falsehood? It's a small thing. But the first time he confronts the public it's a falsehood?" Conway rebutted, stating that just the previous day, The White House had given access to the signing of executive orders and the media had issued a falsehood of its own; claiming that the Trump administration had removed the bust of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Todd argued that the mistake was corrected immediately, to which Conway pointed out that it had been shared 3,000 times before being deleted. The two traded back and forth before Todd returned to his original question.
 * Chuck Todd: --answer the question of why the president asked the White House press secretary to come out in front of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood? Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility of the entire White House press office--
 * Kellyanne Conway: No it doesn't.
 * Todd: --on day one.
 * Conway: Don't be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck. What-- You're saying it's a falsehood. And they're giving Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that. But the point remains--
 * Todd: Wait a minute-- Alternative facts?
 * Conway: --that there's--
 * Todd: Alternative facts? Four of the five facts he uttered, the one thing he got right--
 * Conway: --hey, Chuck, why-- Hey Chuck--
 * Todd: --was Zeke Miller. Four of the five facts he uttered were just not true. Look, alternative facts are not facts. They're falsehoods

Two days later, Spicer corrected his statements concerning the WMATA ridership levels, stating that he had been relying on statistics "given to him". He stood by his widely disputed claim that the inauguration was the most-viewed, stating he also included online viewership in addition to in-person and television in his figures.

During the week following Conway's comments, she discussed "alternative facts", substituting the phrases "alternative information" and "incomplete information". Two days after the Todd interview she defended Trump's travel restrictions by talking about a nonexistent "Bowling Green massacre" (she later said she was referring to the arrest of two Iraqis in Bowling Green, Kentucky for sending aid to insurgents in Iraq), and by falsely claiming that President Obama in 2011 had "banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months". Her false statements were described as having "taken 'alternative facts' to a new level".

The phrase "alternative facts" was claimed to be similar to a phrase used in Trump's 1987 book, Trump: The Art of the Deal. In that book, "truthful hyperbole" was described as "an innocent form of exaggeration—and... a very effective form of promotion." The book claimed that "people want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular." The ghostwriter of the book, Tony Schwartz, said he coined that phrase and claimed that Trump "loved it".

Conway later defended her remarks: "Two plus two is four. Three plus one is four. Partly cloudy, partly sunny. Glass half full, glass half empty. Those are alternative facts."

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 * On NBC's January 22nd, 2017 episode of Meet the Press, host Chuck Todd had Kellyanne Conway, advisor to newly inaugurated President Trump on to discuss the inauguration and the comments of Press Secretary Sean Spicer from the previous day. After welcoming her to the White House North Lawn, Todd proceeds to ask her why President Trump chose, on his first day to have his press secretary issue false information regarding the size of the crowd at his inauguration. Conway deflected the question, noting that Trump did many things on his first day. She further pivots to discuss the repeal and replacement of the Affordable Care Act. Conway eventually returns unprompted to address inauguration crowd size, arguing that Presidents should be judged by their actions rather than the attendance at their inauguration. Despite her previous comment, Conway goes on to cite Nielsen rating data listing Trump viewership at 31 million, she contrasts this to the 20.5 million viewers of Obama's 2013 inauguration (For comparison; Obama's 2009 inauguration: 37.8 million and Reagan's 1981 inauguration: 41.8 million). She also for the first time alludes that the crowd was indeed smaller than they stated, acknowledging the rain forecast for that day may have limited in person turn out. Todd concedes that Conway makes a fair point about the irrelevancy of Presidential inauguration size and tries to bring her back onto his original question."He also serves as the spokesperson for all of America at times. He speaks for all of the country at times. Why put him out there for the very first time in front of that podium to utter a provable falsehood? It's a small thing. But the first time he confronts the public it's a falsehood?" Conway rebuts stating that just the previous day they had given access to the signing of executive orders and the media had issued a falsehood of their own, claiming that the Trump administration had removed the bust of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Todd argues that it was corrected immediately, to which Conway points that it had been shared 3,000 times before being deleted. They trade back and forth a bit before Todd returns again to his original question.
 * CHUCK TODD: --answer the question of why the president asked the White House press secretary to come out in front of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood? Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility of the entire White House press office--
 * KELLYANNE CONWAY: No it doesn't.
 * CHUCK TODD: --on day one.
 * KELLYANNE CONWAY: Don't be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck. What-- You're saying it's a falsehood. And they're giving Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that. But the point remains--
 * CHUCK TODD: Wait a minute-- Alternative facts?
 * KELLYANNE CONWAY: --that there's--
 * CHUCK TODD: Alternative facts? Four of the five facts he uttered, the one thing he got right--
 * KELLYANNE CONWAY: --hey, Chuck, why-- Hey Chuck--
 * CHUCK TODD: --was Zeke Miller. Four of the five facts he uttered were just not true. Look, alternative facts are not facts. They're falsehoods

*Not sure how to make citation for same site carry the same bracketed number (see citation 2 and 3)* --- DRAFT TWO


 * On January 22nd, 2017, in an episode of Meet the Press on NBC, host Chuck Todd interviewed Kellyanne Conway, an advisor to newly inaugurated President Trump, to discuss the recent inauguration and the comments made by Press Secretary Sean Spicer the previous day. After a brief introduction, Todd asked Conway why President Trump chose, on his first day, to have his press secretary issue false information regarding the size of the crowd at his inauguration. Conway deflected the question, noting that Trump did many things on his first day. She then continued off topic by discussing the repeal and replacement of the Affordable Care Act. Conway eventually returns unprompted to address the size of the crowd at President Trump’s inauguration, arguing that Presidents should be judged by their actions rather than the attendance at their inauguration. Despite her previous comment, Conway goes on to cite Nielsen rating data listing viewership of the inauguration at 31 million; she contrasted this to the 20.5 million viewers of Obama's 2013 inauguration (for comparison; Obama's 2009 inauguration had 37.8 million viewers and Reagan's 1981 inauguration had 41.8 million viewers). She also for the first time alludes that the crowd was indeed smaller than Spicer originally stated, acknowledging the rain forecast for that day may have limited in person turn out. Todd concedes that Conway makes a fair point about the irrelevancy of Presidential inauguration size and tries to bring her back onto his original question."He also serves as the spokesperson for all of America at times. He speaks for all of the country at times. Why put him out there for the very first time in front of that podium to utter a provable falsehood? It's a small thing. But the first time he confronts the public it's a falsehood?" Conway gave a rebuttal, stating that just the previous day The White House had given access to the signing of executive orders and the media had issued a falsehood of its own, claiming that the Trump administration had removed the bust of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Todd argues that it was corrected immediately, to which Conway points that it had been shared 3,000 times before being deleted. The two traded back and forth before Todd returns again to his original question.

FINAL DRAFT


 * On the January 22nd episode of Meet the Press, host Chuck Todd interviewed U.S. Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway, to discuss the recent inauguration and the comments made by Press Secretary Sean Spicer the previous day. After a brief introduction, Todd asked Conway why President Trump chose, on his first day, to have his press secretary issue false information regarding the size of the crowd at his inauguration. Conway deflected the question, noting that President Trump did many things on his first day, and  continued off topic by discussing the repeal and replacement of the Affordable Care Act. Conway eventually returned, unprompted, to address the size of the crowd at President Trump’s inauguration, arguing that Presidents should be judged by their actions rather than the  crowd size at their inauguration. Despite her comment, Conway went on to cite Nielsen rating data listing viewership of the inauguration at 31 million; contrasting this to the 20.5 million viewers of Obama's 2013 inauguration (for comparison, President Obama's 2009 inauguration had 37.8 million viewers and President Reagan's 1981 inauguration had 41.8 million viewers). She also alluded that the crowd may have been smaller than Spicer originally stated, acknowledging that rain in the forecast may have impacted  turnout. Todd conceded that Conway made a fair point concerning the irrelevance of Presidential inauguration size and returned the conversation back to his original question."He also serves as the spokesperson for all of America at times. He speaks for all of the country at times. Why put him out there for the very first time in front of that podium to utter a provable falsehood? It's a small thing. But the first time he confronts the public it's a falsehood?" Conway rebutted, stating that just the previous day, The White House had given access to the signing of executive orders and the media had issued a falsehood of its own; claiming that the Trump administration had removed the bust of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Todd argued that the mistake was corrected immediately, to which Conway pointed out that it had been shared 3,000 times before being deleted. The two traded back and forth before Todd returned to his original question.

FINAL DRAFT WITH WORD BASED FORMATTING FIXES


 * On the January 22nd episode of Meet the Press, host Chuck Todd interviewed U.S. Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway, to discuss the recent inauguration and the comments made by Press Secretary Sean Spicer the previous day. After a brief introduction, Todd asked Conway why President Trump chose, on his first day, to have his press secretary issue false information regarding the size of the crowd at his inauguration. Conway deflected the question, noting that President Trump did many things on his first day, and continued off topic by discussing the repeal and replacement of the Affordable Care Act. Conway eventually returned, unprompted, to address the size of the crowd at President Trump’s inauguration, arguing that Presidents should be judged by their actions rather than the crowd size at their inauguration. Despite her comment, Conway went on to cite Nielsen rating data listing viewership of the inauguration at 31 million; contrasting this to the 20.5 million viewers of Obama's 2013 inauguration (for comparison, President Obama's 2009 inauguration had 37.8 million viewers and President Reagan's 1981 inauguration had 41.8 million viewers). She also alluded that the crowd may have been smaller than Spicer originally stated, acknowledging that rain in the forecast may have impacted  turnout. Todd conceded that Conway made a fair point concerning the irrelevance of Presidential inauguration size and returned the conversation back to his original question. "He also serves as the spokesperson for all of America at times. He speaks for all of the country at times. Why put him out there for the very first time in front of that podium to utter a provable falsehood? It's a small thing. But the first time he confronts the public it's a falsehood?" Conway rebutted, stating that just the previous day, The White House had given access to the signing of executive orders and the media had issued a falsehood of its own; claiming that the Trump administration had removed the bust of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Todd argued that the mistake was corrected immediately, to which Conway pointed out that it had been shared 3,000 times before being deleted. The two traded back and forth before Todd returned to his original question.
 * CHUCK TODD: --answer the question of why the president asked the White House press secretary to come out in front of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood? Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility of the entire White House press office--
 * KELLYANNE CONWAY: No it doesn't.
 * CHUCK TODD: --on day one.
 * KELLYANNE CONWAY: Don't be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck. What-- You're saying it's a falsehood. And they're giving Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that. But the point remains--
 * CHUCK TODD: Wait a minute-- Alternative facts?
 * KELLYANNE CONWAY: --that there's--
 * CHUCK TODD: Alternative facts? Four of the five facts he uttered, the one thing he got right--
 * KELLYANNE CONWAY: --hey, Chuck, why-- Hey Chuck--
 * CHUCK TODD: --was Zeke Miller. Four of the five facts he uttered were just not true. Look, alternative facts are not facts. They're falsehoods

Talk Page Drafts
-Talk page post on use of transcript
 * While paraphrasing and having information presented in the neutral wikipedia tone is critical. For Alternate Facts I believe it is important to include the word for word transcript of the conversation between Chuck Todd and Kellyanne Conway. This whole topic revolves around the specific words used by Press Secretary Sean Spicer, Todd, and Conway and thus it is important to maintain it verbatim so readers are able to understand and make their own opinions about them. --Emaier138 (talk) 03:45, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Even if direct quotations were not consistent with Wikipedia (a separate discussion) there are times when an exception must be made. If you want to cite precedent, it should at least support your point. Just take a look at other political scandals where specific wording was/is important and you will see that direct quotes are always present. In just a minute you can find Nixon's resignation address in the Watergate scandal page, as well as not only the transcript, but also an embedded video of Clinton's famous "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," speech on the Lewinsky scandal page. --Emaier138 (talk) 17:58, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
 * @MrX, we do seem to have a pretty good consensus here, but, what you seem to be looking for a consensus that agrees with your point. At this point most of the members in this talk page now agree to some sort of summary and inclusion of part of the transcript. I believe we can present this information in a way that complies to the standard rules of wikipedia while also maintaining the "full picture of the usage" @RosaLuxemburgOnFreedom pointed out the importance of. --

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 * @MrX No person in their sane mind is arguing for including the transcript in its entirety. I agree with you that "hey, Chuck, why ... Hey, Chuck" isn't entirely relevant to the reader, however as soon as you start removing pieces of what was said, you change the context, and change what the readers see based on OUR choices of inclusion or omission. I would argue that the benefit of keeping the integrity of the words spoken, outweighs having a small irrelevant line. As for reliable sources, your point about not using the WP source is completely valid. NBC has a full transcript for the episode available online, presumably typed up by someone paid to reproduce it verbatim. There have been various proposals in this talk page regarding inclusion of the transcript, substituting transcript with summary, or for the omittance of the transcript. My classmates and I have developed a section that we think provides a good balance. There is quite a lot of information in the article about what Spicer said (including a video), as well as the background of the event. However, Conway's words get a small paragraph. Don't get me wrong, the background information is important and deserves to be included, but, without Conway's response on Meet the Press, the whole situation might have been forgotten soon after. Without Conway's interview this wikipedia article would not exist, and as such it deserves more emphasis.

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As there seems to be an extensive amount of information the background and Spicer's words (including a video) we believe there needs to be more on the background of Conway's comments (without her comments, Spicer's comments on inauguration probably would have disappeared after a few days/weeks).

Dissent should not be regarded as being unhelpful. I never criticised editors for being biased. I retract my comments about sockpuppetry/meatpuppetry as I now see that you are all classmates in a sophomore rhetoric class. If I were to argue for inclusion of the entire transcript, I would first find reliable sources that have also reproduced it in toto. I would then argue specifically why the additional comments from both Conway and Todd would increase readers' understanding of this subject. Does including "hey, Chuck, why … Hey, Chuck" inform the reader? As I mentioned before, external links are the common means of providing the readers with the complete information. Remember, an encyclopedia is summary of the most important information, WP:NOTEVERYTHING not an exhaustive data dump.- MrX 12:33, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Sources Used in Talk, Sandbox, and Mainspace Writing
NBC Meet the Press Transcript: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-01-22-17-n710491

Nielsen data sheet: http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2017/nearly-31-million-americans-watch-president-donald-trumps-inauguration.html

Possible Sources
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/kellyanne-conway-trumps-first-lady.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-alternative-facts-epidemic-goes-way-beyond-politics/2017/04/05/01a75ee0-1966-11e7-855e-4824bbb5d748_story.html

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/01/the-facts-on-crowd-size/