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Rough Draft- Early Life Section
Adding this section to the early life of Led Zeppelin.

In 1969, Led Zeppelin I was released. This was the bands' first album. Robert plant stated that "During Led Zeppelin I, as far as I was concerned I thought that I was going to [leave the band] anyway.... I was quite nervous and didn't get into enjoying it until II." Released only a few months later was the band's second album, Led Zeppelin II, which many referred to as a piece together album. The group worked on this album while on the road so many of the songs were recorded at separate times rather than in one sitting. This album sparked much controversy due to the fact some songs on the album, "The Lemon Song" and "Whole Lotta Love" showed similarities from previously written songs by other artists. This created legal trouble for the band over whether or not they plagiarized these songs. During Led Zeppelin III, which was released in 1970, Page and Plant's relationship began to grow stronger. The two got to know each other on a more personal level through writing the songs on this album, forming a close connection. The songs for this album were mostly created in a Welsh cottage, the Welsh culture was reflected in many of the songs on this album. This album sold one of the lowest numbers of copies out of all the band's albums. This was surprising to the band, but many critics argued that the songs on the album were too soft, too aggressive, or for "druggies". Led Zeppelin IV, released in 1971, was similar to Led Zeppelin III in the mythic storytelling sense. This album included one of the bands most well-known songs and greatest hit, Stairway to Heaven. Led Zeppelin IV was a huge hit and sold 37 million copies throughout the world, making it the bands best selling album. Led Zeppelin belonged to Atlantic Records and contributed to one-fourth of the profits for that record company. The band also created their own record label, Swan Song in 1974-1975.

Notes on book: Led Zeppelin Shadows Taller Than Our Souls
- Group during Led Zeppelin One were Plant, Bonham, Page, and Jones.

- Plant and Bonham were unexperienced and young while Page and Jones had lots of experience.

- Robert Plant quote "During Led Zeppelin I, as far as I was concerned I thought that I was going to [leave the band] anyway.... I was quite nervous and didn't get into enjoying it until II."

- Led Zeppelin II was a pieced together album, in which each member of the group was well represented

- Lemon song, Whole Lotta Love showed resemblance to previous written songs by other artists. This created legal controversy

- Led Zeppelin III connected Page and Plant, got to know a lot more about each other through the song writing. Surprisingly was one of the bands albums that sold the lowest number of copies. Lot's of controversy over the songs on the album; too soft, too aggressive, for druggies, etc.

- Led Zeppelin IV similar concept to Led Zeppelin III in the mythic storytelling sense. This album contained Stairway to Heaven which was one of the bands greatest hits. IV sold many copies.

- Led Zeppelin contributed to one-forth of the profits for Atlantic Records

Robert Plant Page
Rough Draft-

Early Life: Notes https://search-credoreference-com.cod.idm.oclc.org/content/entry/ffcpop/led_zeppelin/0

- Yardbirds was the bands first named formed in 1968

- Group recorded Led Zeppelin II in 1969, this album was very popular in the United States but many people in Britain thought the album thought is wasn't right to produce a hit album in the United States as opposed to Britain.

- Led Zeppelin III was also a hit album- acoustically based

- 1974-1975 Led Zeppelin created their own record label, Swan Song

- Led Zeppelin IV, Stairway to Heaven, one of the bands most popular songs

- Physical Graffiti 1975- groups most popular album

Early Life: Notes: https://academic.eb.com/levels/collegiate/article/Led-Zeppelin/117498

- Commercial success in 1970's from their manager Peter Grant

- Plant's voice started to define heavy metal signed. Arabic and Indian voice styles as well as Blues.

- Stairway to Heaven, bands most popular song on Led Zeppelins forth album which was called Untitled

Topic Assignment- Robert Plant
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Plant

I'm going to add more information between Led Zeppelin's founding in 1968 and when they produced their 7th album in 1975. In addition, I'm going to add more citations in the Led Zeppelin section and the section about lyrics. Adding these citations is important because this page is a biography of a person and if no reliable sources are cited the information will be removed.

Possible Topic Ideas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Denver

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Plant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springsteen_(song)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Morton_(criminal_justice)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Iovine

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Jimmy Wales

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English Studies

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