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= 4AD discography =

= The Magnificent Thad Jones, Vol. 3 =

The Magnificent Thad Jones, Vol. 3 is an album by American jazz trumpeter Thad Jones primarily recorded on February 2, 1957 and released on Blue Note later that year.

Reception
AllMusic gave the album four stars.

Audio Magazine

Mark Stryker of the Detroit Free Press called The Magnificent Thad Jones, Vol. 3—along with Detroit–New York Junction and The Magnificent Thad Jones—"The highlights of Jones’ early discography".

July 14, 1956 ("I've Got a Crush on You")

 * Thad Jones – trumpet
 * Barry Harris – piano
 * Percy Heath – bass
 * Max Roach – drums


 * Thad Jones – trumpet

February 2, 1957

 * Benny Powell – trombone
 * Gigi Gryce – alto saxophone
 * Tommy Flanagan – piano
 * George Duvivier – bass
 * Elvin Jones – drums

Technical personnel

 * Alfred Lion – producer
 * Rudy Van Gelder – recording engineer
 * Harold Feinstein – design
 * Francis Wolff – photography

= The Fabulous Fats Navarro, Vol. 1 & 2 =

'The Fabulous Fats Navarro, Vols. 1 & 2' are a pair of separate but related albums by American jazz trumpeter Fats Navarro compiling four sessions he recorded for Blue Note between 1947–1949 and released in 1957. Material for the album came from record dates with a variety of musicians including Tadd Dameron, Ernie Henry, Wardell Gray, Charlie Rouse, Bud Powell, and Howard McGhee.

Reception
Jazz critic Stephen Cook described Navarro as a "fluid and inventive bebop trumpeter" and considered the album "an essential title for jazz enthusiasts."

According to jazz critic Stephen Cook, "Navarro runs the gamut here, turning in both high-flying solos and gracefully cool statements." He noted that the track listing and personnel of the album had varied between releases.

The authors of The Penguin Guide to Jazz Recordings awarded albums a full 4 stars and a "crown", calling them "one of the peaks of the bebop movement and one of the essential modern-jazz records."

Critic John Fordham described the two volumes as "essential Navarro, and essential bebop generally, featuring a string of dazzling themes illuminated by the trumpeter's glowing tone."

Author Tom Piazza stated that the albums "show instantly what set Dameron's work apart," and commented: "Among bebop dates, these were really something special, full of carefully worked-out ensembles, introductions, and codas, yet still with plenty of stretching room for the soloists."

Saxophonist and writer Benny Green noted Dameron's "ravishing tone" and "precise delivery," and called the recordings "a reminder of the grace of one of the earliest modern pioneers, a grace that was precocious because in the 1940s modernists had still not formulated their own conventions."

The Fabulous Fats Navarro, Volume 2

 * 1) "Bouncing With Bud" (alternate take) (Bud Powell) – 3:07
 * 2) "Dance Of The Infidels" (alternate take) (Powell) – 2:52

September 26, 1947 1 1-8

 * Fats Navarro – trumpet
 * Ernie Henry – alto saxophone
 * Charlie Rouse – tenor saxophone
 * Tadd Dameron – piano
 * Nelson Boyd – bass
 * Shadow Wilson – drums
 * recorded at WOR Studios, NYC

September 13, 1948 2 6-12

 * Fats Navarro – trumpet
 * Wardell Gray – tenor saxophone
 * Tadd Dameron – piano
 * Curley Russell – bass
 * Kenny Clarke – drums
 * Chano Pozo – bongos (6, 7)
 * Kenny Hagood (12)
 * recorded at WOR Studios, NYC

October 11, 1948 2 1-5

 * Fats Navarro – trumpet
 * Howard McGhee (except 2) – trumpet
 * Ernie Henry – alto saxophone
 * Allen Eager – tenor saxophone
 * Milt Jackson (2) – vibraphone
 * Milt Jackson (except 2), Howard McGhee (2) – piano
 * Curley Russell – bass
 * Kenny Clarke – drums
 * recorded at Harry Smith Studio, NYC

January 18, 1949 1 9-10

 * Fats Navarro – trumpet
 * Kai Winding – trombone
 * Sahib Shihab – alto saxophone
 * Dexter Gordon – tenor saxophone
 * Cecil Payne – baritone saxophone
 * John Collins – guitar
 * Tadd Dameron – piano
 * Curley Russell – bass
 * Kenny Clarke – drums
 * Vidal Bolado – congas
 * Diego Ibarra – bongos
 * Rae Pearl – vocals (10)
 * recorded in NYC

April 21, 1949 1 11-14

 * Miles Davis – trumpet
 * J. J. Johnson – trombone
 * Benjamin Lundy – tenor saxophone
 * Cecil Payne – baritone saxophone
 * Tadd Dameron – piano
 * Curley Russell – bass
 * Kenny Clarke – drums
 * Kay Penton – vocals (13)
 * recorded in NYC

Technical personnel

 * Alfred Lion – producer
 * Doug Hawkins (1947, September 13, 1948), Harry Smith (October 11, 1948) – recording engineer
 * Reid Miles – design
 * Francis Wolff – photography
 * Leonard Feather – liner notes

Reissue

 * Michael Cuscuna – producer
 * Ron McMaster – digital transfers

Socratic method
Before Socrates gives his speech, he asks some questions of Agathon regarding the nature of love.

First, he asks Agathon whether it is reasonable for someone to desire what they already have, like for example someone who is in perfect health to wish he were healthy (200a–e). Agathon agrees with Socrates that this would be irrational, but is quickly reminded of his own definition of Love's true desires: youth and beauty. Putting the two together then, for Love to desire youth he must not have it himself, thus making him old, and for him to desire beauty, he himself must be ugly. Agathon has no choice but to agree.

Socrates then relates a story he was told by a wise woman called Diotima. According to her, Eros is not a god but is a spirit that mediates between humans and their objects of desire. Love itself is not wise or beautiful but is the desire for those things. Love is expressed through propagation and reproduction: either physical love or the exchanging and reproducing of ideas. The greatest knowledge, Diotima says, is knowledge of the "form of beauty", which humans must try to achieve.

Diotima of Mantinea
In a departure from the earlier dialogues, Socrates switches from dialectical exchange to storytelling. Socrates tells of a conversation he had with Diotima, who plays the same inquiring/instructing role that Socrates played with Agathon.

Origins of Love
Diotima first explains that Love is neither a god, as was previously claimed by the other guests, nor a mortal but a daemon, a spirit halfway between god and man. He was born during a banquet thrown by the gods to celebrate the birth of Aphrodite. One of the guests, Porus, (Πόρος,)—son of Metis (Μῆτις)—who was passed out from drinking too much nectar, and it so happened that another deity arrived, Poverty, who came to the banquet to beg, and upon seeing Porus lying unconscious took the chance to sleep with him, conceiving a child in the process: Love. Having been conceived at Aphrodite's birthday party, he became her follower and servant, but through his real origins Love acquired a kind of double nature. From his mother, Love became poor, ugly, and with no place to sleep (203c–d), while from his father he inherited the knowledge of beauty, as well as the cunningness to pursue it. Being of an intermediary nature, Love is also halfway between wisdom and ignorance, knowing just enough to understand his ignorance and try to overcome it. Beauty then is the perennial philosopher, the "lover of wisdom" (the Greek word "philia" being one of the four words for love).

After describing Love's origins, that provide clues to its nature, Diotima asks Socrates why is it, as he had previously agreed, that love is always that "of beautiful things" (204b). For if love affects everyone indiscriminately, then why is it that only some appear to pursue beauty throughout their lives? Socrates does not have the answer and so Diotima reveals it: Beauty is not the end but the means to something greater, the achievement of a certain reproduction and birth (206c), the only claim that mortals can have on immortality. This is true for men as well as animals that seek an appropriate place to give birth, preferring to roam in pain until they find it. Some men are pregnant in body alone and, just like animals, enjoy the company of women with whom they can have children that will pass on their existence. Others are pregnant in both body and mind, and instead of children they carry wisdom, virtue, and above all, the art of civic order (209a). Beauty is also their guide, but it will be towards the knowledge needed to accomplish their spiritual births.

In conclusion, Diotima gives Socrates a guide on how a man of this class should be brought up from a young age. First, he should start by loving a particular body he finds beautiful, but as time goes by, he will relax his passion and pass to the love of all bodies. From this point, he will pass to the love of beautiful minds, and then to that of knowledge. Finally, he will reach the ultimate goal, which is to witness beauty in itself, rather than representations (211a-b), the true Form of Beauty in Platonic terms.

This speech, in the interpretation of Marsilio Ficino in De Amore (1484), is the origin of the concept of Platonic love.