User:Evad37/sandbox/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 Indoor Football League season

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2018 Indoor Football League season

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Per WP:CRYSTAL; teams have until September to declare their intent to play in the league. Article is also improperly sourced. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 04:41, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete - Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Vorbee (talk) 10:12, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * KEEP There are no prediction here. All the iformation is properly sourced including from official IFL source. This article is similar to Super_Bowl_LIV to Super Bowl LV. Can you please identify which sources you consider "improper." Although all things may not have been decided, but there is enough material here to warrant its inclusion.  Althogh they HAVE until September it doesn't mean that they can't make a decision before than. and they have: See here   So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 12:24, 13 August 2017 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: TheGreatWikiLord (talk • contribs)  is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD.
 * Keep it seems that the league has made good faith plans to hold the season and there seems to be at least some minimal coverage of it. Even if it does not actually happen we have many articles about events that never took place (such as the 1940 Summer Olympics, the 1940 Winter Olympics, and the 1994 World Series).--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:23, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * For now, keep . Typically, pages for the nearest upcoming season are acceptable if there are enough references to say that it should happen. In fact, the IFL's own usage of the word "committed" in regards to the five teams that have committed to the 2018 season seems to indicate that the event in question will take place. The part that would be speculation at this point is what any of the other teams that aren't committed to the 2018 season will do. So far there have only be "reports" (as in no one has actually confirmed) on the departures of the other teams. That is will be need to be clarified on the September 1 deadline. (FYI, I believe there was one season where Sioux Falls said nothing until August 30 or so.) However, if things fall through and the league does not play, then redirect to the IFL page or delete it. Yosemiter (talk) 15:33, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Changing to Redirect/Merge into the IFL for now. Based on recent announcements at the Quad City Steamwheelers (CIF) expansion announcement, they handed out pamphlets with the two remaining unconfirmed teams as CIF members. On top of that, it stated there are 5 more teams currently in the application process of joining the CIF. A bit of speculation right now, but it certainly indicates the league may not play next season (probably about 50/50). As it stands right now, the 2018 season page does not have enough independent significant and reliable sources to have its own page per GNG. It may get plenty of coverage if the league ceases operations, but that would be better covered on the league page. No need to straight up delete just yet, keep the edit history and name as a place holder in case the league rebounds it membership. Yosemiter (talk) 03:15, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. North America1000 21:05, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  J 947(c) (m) 05:02, 20 August 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep - this is really not that far into the future that WP:CRYSTAL would apply. Games start in February so inclusion of teams and schedules and articles on athlete plans should be available. FYI to nominator, articles likes these (upcoming season) really shouldn't go to AFD, they should just be redirects to the parent article, so the original article can easily be restored, and someone else looking for the article can find it as a redirect and not independently start a new article from a redlink. —Мандичка YO 😜 05:11, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Reply to : Sometime after nominating this article, I removed two sources pointing to Salina Liberty (a CIF team) that did not seem related to IFL in any way. Hopefully this answers your question on specific improper sources. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 07:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:07, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Reply As Paul McDonald said there are many many for events that never occurred. Even if this season never takes places, there is is till enough coverage to make it notable. Again, I disagree with Crystal ball argument, that does not apply here. No one is predicting anything, see my Superbowl statement above. Thank you User:Jd22292 for making the necessary corrections. So said The Great Wiki Lord. (talk) 16:15, 2 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep reasonably close enough in the future that we should have an article on it. If it was 10 years out that would be one thing, but deleting an article that we are probably only going to have to recreate within the year makes no sense. If the league ceases operations before the season can be played, we can revisit the AfD then. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:19, 4 September 2017 (UTC)