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Please consider this entire text ....

1Th 4:16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.

The Word of God clearly states that the Lord Himself will descend, with the voice of an archangel ...and ... with THE TRUMPET OF GOD. As we know scripture is the Word of God, and can be interpreted with other scripture. As the Word is complete and sufficient, it will never contradict itself. Please note that the trumpets of God are clearly spoken of in Revelations...

Rev 8:1 When the Lamb broke the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. Rev 8:2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.

This event takes place well into the tribulation. The idea of a rapture BEFORE any tribulation, is simply NOT a true teaching found in scripture. Paul again talks about this so called 'rapture' in his letter to the Corinthians ,,,, 1Cr 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Here the Word of God clearly states ..."at the last trumpet"...... Again looking to scripture for the clear interpretation we have the events in the Book of Revelations.... After the 7th seal is opened in Rev 8:1... seven angels are given each a trumpet .... as we follow their blowing of the trumpets in succession ... the "LAST" trumpet is not sounded until ...

Rev 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ;and He will reign forever and ever."

I understand people wanting to believe in a "rapture" that will take them out of harms way .... before any tribulation/.... but scripture clearly does not teach that .... on the contrary when the disciples asked Jesus what the sign of His coming would be .... He clearly stated .....

Mat 24:8 "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs.

Mat 24:9 "Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name.

Mat 24:10 "At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.

Mat 24:11 "Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many.

Mat 24:12 "Because lawlessness is increased, most people's love will grow cold.

Mat 24:13 "But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.  ......... Note He also went on to say ..... Mat 24:22 "Unless those days had been cut short,no  life would have been saved; but for the sake of the  elect those days will be cut short. ,,,,,,,   Please consider the GOOD NEWS ....what he did go on to discuss in this same chapter in Matthew 24.... He said it would be exactly the same as it was in the days of Noah .... remember ... Noah and his family were SAVED from the tribulation of the flood.... while going through the wrath of God's flood ... protected in the ark !!!...... I know some will argue that scripture says the church is not meant for wrath ...... We will in fact be protected from God's wrath during the tribulation....... Again please consider the inerrant truth of scripture ... in response to the 7 seals,,,  and the 7 trumpets described in Revelations .... please consider   ,,,,,

Job 5:19 " From six troubles He will deliver you, Even in seven evil will not touch you.

Job 5:20 "In famine He will redeem you from death, And in war from the power of the sword.

Job 5:21 "You will be hidden from the scourge of the tongue, And you will not be afraid of violence when it comes.

Job 5:22 "You will laugh at violence and famine, And you will not be afraid of wild beasts.

Job 5:23 "For you will be in league with the stones of the field, And the beasts of the field will be at peace with you.

Job 5:24 "You will know that your tent is secure, For you will visit your abode and fear no loss.

........ALSO PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENTIRE PSALM 91 .... especially ,,,, Psa 91:1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High Will abide in the shadow of the Almighty. Psa 91:2 I will say to the LORD, "My refuge and my fortress, My God, in whom I trust!"

Psa 91:3 For it is He who delivers you from the snare of the trapper And from the deadly pestilence.

Psa 91:4 He will cover you with His pinions, And under His wings you may seek refuge; His faithfulness is a shield and bulwark.

Psa 91:5 You will not be afraid of the terror by night, Or of the arrow that flies by day;

Psa 91:6 Of the pestilence that stalks in darkness, Or of the destruction that lays waste at noon.

Psa 91:7 A thousand may fall at your side And ten thousand at your right hand, But it shall not approach you.

Psa 91:8 You will only look on with your eyes And see the recompense of the wicked.

Psa 91:9 For you have made the LORD, my refuge, Even the Most High, your dwelling place. ,,,,,,,

I fear those who have been given the false hope of a quick and easy departure from the future coming wrath of God .... will be very confused and un-prepared for the tribulation they will experience ...... Please consider what the SCRIPTURE says ..... SCRIPTURE can not lie ,,,, it is the WORD OF GOD .... Take heart in the Words of our Lord Jesus Christ,,,,,

Jhn 16:33 "These things I have spoken to you, so that in Me you may have peace. In the world you have tribulation, but take courage; I have overcome the world."

Sincerely, Francis X. McHugh FXAVIERMCHUGH (talk) 00:46, 2 November 2010 (UTC)--FXAVIERMCHUGH (talk) 00:46, 2 November 2010 (UTC)