User:Fabrickator/proposal to combine AOC North America and AOC South America

why this page is here
I've created this in my user space because, while I was going to put it in Talk:Ages of consent in North America, I wanted to allow for the possibility that there might be some further "maintenance" to restore that page. If it becomes clear that there's a proper place to put it that's "ready" for updates, please ping me and I will copy it over, so we can keep this history straight, unless you have the administrator magic needed to impersonate me. Fabrickator (talk) 04:27, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Fabrickator's objections to Ages of consent merger proposal
This was previously discussed at Talk:Ages_of_consent_in_North_America/Archive_2

Only 6 editors expressed an opinion, it came out 50-50, counting my counter-proposal as an "against" vote. The counter-proposal was that we ought to have separate articles per country, allowing whatever variations of "regional" articles that are desired, transcluding the per-country articles so that there is a single place to maintain the age of consent for a particular jurisdiction.

Notwithstanding my counter-proposal, I continue to believe that we should have AOC articles for "North America" and the "rest of the Americas". Here are my points:


 * These pages are of greatest interest to (English-speaking) people living in these regions, and the bulk of these people were taught in an educational system in which North America and South America are separate continents; it is thus counter-intuitive and a bit jarring to be directed to AOC in the Americas.
 * There is already Portal:North America as well as a portal for the "rest of the Americas" (i.e.Portal:South America, which redirects to Portal:Latin America). In the absence of a pretty compelling counter-argument, we should prefer to be consistent about how we parcel up the regions of the world.
 * There is an argument that it's confusing or otherwise more difficult for people who have learned that North America and South America are merely subcontinents to be presented with the need to figure out which article they should go to, but this is a weak argument.  If we were to accept this argument, then that would seem to challenge the idea of having regional pages (i.e. there should be a single AOC page), but having one big article is cumbersome for a variety of reasons.  I presume that those who have been taught that the Americas are two sub-continents are very accustomed to encountering the "Americas are two continents" model, but the converse is not the case, i.e. English-speaking residents of the Americas encounter the "Americas are two sub-continent" model rather infrequently. Fabrickator (talk) 04:27, 30 November 2019 (UTC)