User:Filll/Cla68 sequence of events

Summary of queries and responses

Q=query, T=threat, D=denial, d=half denial, half threat


 * Q1 17:33 May 8, 2008 Guettarda asks Cla68 about apparent threat, T1
 * D1 21:19, 8 May 2008 Cla68 denies he made a threat, but not overly convincing given his history
 * T2 00:39, 9 May 2008 Cla68 makes a more explicit threat
 * d1 01:44, 9 May 2008 Cla68 refers to a post he made on WR making a half-hearted denial of a threat
 * Q2 08:31, 9 May 2008 Dave souza asks Cla68 why his retractions and clarifications look like thinly veiled threats
 * 11:03, 9 May 2008 Cla68 tries to justify his threat on the basis of alleged previous bad behavior of some editors, and an Arbcomm case
 * Q3 14:08 and 14:56 9 May 2008 Filll corrects some of Cla68's statements and asks for more clarification of his position
 * T3 15:51, 9 May 2008 Cla68 again repeats his threat, again justifying it with an Arbcomm case and as revenge for RfA voting
 * 17:05 9 May 2008 Filll again corrects Cla68's understanding and cautions him about making things worse
 * T4 00:14, 10 May 2008 Cla68 repeats his threat
 * Q4 01:33, 10 May 2008 Filll asks for clarification of threat; no response
 * 01:59 10 May 2008 Filll asks why standard DR is not pursued; no response
 * T5 May 9, 2008 Vague threat by Cla68 at WR
 * T6 May 11 2008 Moderate threat by Cla68 at WR
 * D2 May 13, 2008 Cla68 apologizes for not "choosing his words more carefully"

A more detailed sequence of events: 1) User:Moulton conducted a POV campaign which disrupted the Rosalind Picard article over content about the Dissent petition, resulting in a RfC and ultimately a community ban. Example of the change Moulton was trying to force: 2) Moulton then went to Wikipedia Review where over a period of 6 months or so, Moulton tried to drum up support for his campaign: WR1 WR2 WR3 WR3 WR4 WR4

3) Within 30 days of Moulton's article/rant at Wikipedia Review WR4 Wikipedia Review editors arrived and starting causing turmoil at the Picard article, picking up where Moulton left off, starting with User:Krimpet, who vehemently claims not to be associated with Wikipedia Review, repeating Moulton's preferred edit: 4) After several days of edit warring which resulted in the article being locked down, the Wikipedia Review editors failed to gain enough support to topple consensus and so failed to make the changes Moulton called for at the Picard article. The campaign was orchestrated and run by Moulton in real time, as his posts to this thread at Wikipedia Review show: WR5 5) Cla68 makes an offsite veiled threat at Wikipedia Review to 'out' to the media those who opposed the Wikipedia Review editors walking in the footsteps of Moulton, seeming to target the members of the Intelligent Design Wikiproject, a frequent object of Moulton's ire  WR6

6) When questioned about this, Cla68 clarified it by stating: 7)  Cla68 attempted to mitigate the potential harassing nature of his comment at  WR7 where he said:

8) When asked to clarify this further, Cla68 responded:

9) After some more conversation, Cla68 again stated:

10) Asked for further clarification,. Cla68 has to this point been silent on this matter on Wikipedia since May 9, 2008. He has made some more threats at Wikipedia Review, however. On May 13, 2008 Cla68 apologized for not choosing his words more carefully, but it is hard to know how to interpret that exactly, given what has happened before. 11) Posted to thread at Wikipedia Review by Cla68 on May 9, 2008:

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12) Posted by Cla68 May 11, 2008 to a thread at Wikipedia Review:

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