User:Filll/response3

At original AN/I thread on May 5, 2008:

Explaining original conflict in brief, and telling people to AGF and that their behavior is shameful

Trying to get people to read the RfC instead of making unfounded claims. Using some sarcasm to try to get people to be a bit more CIVIL and avoid personal attacks.

Trying to get participants to stop throwing insults at original AN/I thread.

Charged with spamming people's talk pages with User:Filll/AGF Challenge, I ask what rule I have violated and invite MZMcBride to file an RfC against me for inviting people to take the AGF Challenge. I also point out that similar responses to my invitation are approaching the unCIVIL.

Ask ThuranX to take more care being posting inflammatory statements.

On Picard talk page:

At start of Picard talk page argument, ask all to read RfC and familiarize themselves with some of the facts that were involved in the previous arguments: Wikipedia tries to avoid copyright violations, New York Times is a reliable source, Wikipedia is supposedly an encyclopedia not a newspaper, Wikipedia tries to avoid WP:SYNTH

Lay out the facts of the Picard biography in more detail and invite people to fix it, instead of whining (not the best wording)

Announce I will not fight and ask complaining editor to work instead of fighting.

Again inviting editors to write instead of fight.

Again inviting editors to write instead of fight

Trying to get users to write instead of fight again, by using A and B model.

Asking editor to take it easy and not misrepresent sources.

"white pride" and "f_ckwit" discussion at AN/I

Bringing issue to AN/I and asking for outside eyes to look at this before it gets further out of hand and creaetes more bad feelings.

My suggestion for dealing with the situation: getting everyone on all sides to tone things down.

Answering claim that I was just trying to make a POINT by finding an example where CIVIL was not applied, and giving my explanation of why "white pride" and "f_ckwit" expressions should not be used on Wikipedia and why.

Providing some evidence that some might find "white pride" offensive

Stating that both sides should have been cautioned, and pleading to calm the situation rather than inflame it

Trying to explain why "white pride" is not a good term to use on Wikipedia.

Trying to explain why "white pride" is not a good term to use on Wikipedia