User:Florrie/Notability in Rugby league

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User:Jaranda/Notabilty (sports)
Hi, I strongly recommed this project to give your notabilty guidelines for a new notabilty proposal that I'm creating on my userpage, once it is completed, I will move to wikipedia namespace for the community to decide. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 22:55, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Has anyone looked at this notability criteria for RL that has made it's way into Jaranda's comprehensive guidelines for notability across many sports ? Should we have some input and take control ? (Numbering added below for ease of commentary)

''A player of rugby league would be deemed notable to have their own article on Wikipedia if they: 1 Have played first grade rugby league (depending on country) 2 Have played more than 10 first grade games OR 3 Have played in a first grade team consistently 4 ''Have had a good rugby league career in second grade (depending on country). 5 Have played in more than one year of rugby league. ''Other personalities surrounding the game are notable if they: 6 Are a consistent first grade rugby league commentator 7 A referee that has refereed at least 100 games 8 A notable newspaper/other media journalist

I think this sets the bar at a rather low level but hey, there are already plenty of rookies who have stubs. What would be valuable though might be to list some order of priority. I think if a player has represented his country he is undoubtedly notable and that should be 1). State representation is important in Aus but irrelevant elsewhere so let's forget that (although there is the odd player who has represented Qld or NSW without ever having played Sydney or Brisb 1st grade) Current 4) needs to go I reckon - I certainly won't be writing articles about players who never played 1st grade. As for the rest 1), 2), 3) and 5) are just variations (qualifications) of the same thing and 3) is meaningless. This I reckon is what we should debate and also clarify what do we mean by first grade ? How do the different competitions (over the ages) in different parts of the UK; NZ provinces/cities and Sydney v Brisbane v Country NSW v Country Qld all fit in. As for 8) I'm not sure that "a journalist is notable if he is notable" is much help -Sticks66 11:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

From Notability (people)
Any Biography


 * The person has received significant recognized awards or honors.
 * The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field.

Non valid general criteria

 * That a person has a relationship with a well-known person is not a reason for a standalone article; see  Relationships do not transfer notability. However, the person may be included in the related article. For example Brooklyn Beckham and Jason Allen Alexander
 * Avoid criteria based on search engine statistics (e.g., Google hits or Alexa ranking), or measuring the number of photos published online. The adult film industry, for example, uses Googlebombing to influence rankings. See also limitations of Alexa.

Athletes

 * Competitors and coaches who have competed in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming, golf or tennis.
 * Competitors and coaches who have competed at the highest level in amateur sports (who meet the general criteria of secondary sources published about them).


 * Notability of athletes on fringe of major league discussion